Juventus Next Gen (34 Viewers)

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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This concept is paying off, I am sure about that. I see in Italian media that lots of other clubs are interested in having a youth team in Serie C. Glad we took the chance.

Debuted in first XI: Fagioli, Miretti, Illing Jr., Barrenechea, Soulé and Barbieri. Not all because of quality offcourse, also a lack of depth in squad in combination with injuries.

This is the 4th year in Serie C I think? Other clubs are more interested now in our players because they already developed at a higher level. And if talents are already 20+ they are not on a dead track like before because nothing happend after Primavera and they got loaned to random clubs in Serie C or D.

We sold: Hwang-Son (Emirates 7M), Tongya (8M), Petrelli (8M), Pereira (7.5M), Mavdidid (6.3M), Frederiksen (2M), Zanimacchia (3M), Beruatto (2.1M) and lot of other players for around 1M.
Disclaimer: some players are inflated prices because of swapdeals etc.

Some of them aren't sold/ or for low fee and doing a good job right now, what is good for our exposure of Next Gen, some examples:
Hans Nicolussi (Salernitana)
Kastanos (Salernitana)
Portanova (Genoa)
Dragusin (Genoa)
Frabotta (Frosinone)
Mavididi (Montepellier)
Israel (Sporting Portugal)
Aké (Dijon)

I think it is good developement for youngsters and easier to adapt into the first team. It is possible that a world class youngster wil reach the starting XI by us and otherwhise we can fill the squad with good rotation players with heart for the club and on low salary costs.
On the other side is at a more profitable bussiness then before (read: Primavera and after that loan out until transfer free). We could sell the youngsters to other clubs even for low fees but it is better than nothing. Obviously there is no space for every youth players so we should maximize their value before they end up worth nothing.
I'm a caveman so I didn't understand all of this - but I'm glad to hear of the potential financial benefits of this project.

It must be said though that even under marotta we were buying promising young players and selling them on for a profit if they turned out not good enough. As you mention, it's hard to judge these values because of how football business is done.

Also, so far only Fagioli is a good enough product to start for us- and he spent last season on loan in Serie B. Sam has shown some promising signs (two good games all year) and Barrenechea had one great game then disappeared. As for Miretti we're all saying he needs a loan, but none of us are suggesting he spend a season in the Next Gen.

I'm just not sure it's better to have our promising players in our 2nd team in C instead of a simple loan in B. I get that this way they can get 1st team minutes, but it's not like they've burst through is it?

I'm yet to be totally convinced of the Next Gen idea. So far it's produced one starter (who was on loan in B) and one potential starter (who needs a loan). That's equal to the Marchisio and Giovinco generation in terms of numbers.

Still hopeful, still doubtful.
 

Tak!

Senior Member
Jun 23, 2011
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I'm a caveman so I didn't understand all of this - but I'm glad to hear of the potential financial benefits of this project.

It must be said though that even under marotta we were buying promising young players and selling them on for a profit if they turned out not good enough. As you mention, it's hard to judge these values because of how football business is done.

Also, so far only Fagioli is a good enough product to start for us- and he spent last season on loan in Serie B. Sam has shown some promising signs (two good games all year) and Barrenechea had one great game then disappeared. As for Miretti we're all saying he needs a loan, but none of us are suggesting he spend a season in the Next Gen.

I'm just not sure it's better to have our promising players in our 2nd team in C instead of a simple loan in B. I get that this way they can get 1st team minutes, but it's not like they've burst through is it?

I'm yet to be totally convinced of the Next Gen idea. So far it's produced one starter (who was on loan in B) and one potential starter (who needs a loan). That's equal to the Marchisio and Giovinco generation in terms of numbers.

Still hopeful, still doubtful.
I like NG for a lot of reasons, one being transition and progression. NG is still fairly new, keep that in mind too. It gives us the option if someone should play in C, B or A league. Now we can control their environment (those that stick around) and they can develop on our own soil. Without NG the progression would be from kicking it with the kids to serie c on a loan, next year serie b, and so on. We can also ensure they add another year or two hear which makes them HG at club.

All of this would be even more important if we had a philosophy, a way of playing football. How we think it should be played. Then you can instill that philosophy more smoothely since NG team will be playing more or less identically as senior team is playing. Making transition from NG to senior team easier.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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Mancini looked pretty good with u19. Da Graca hasn't been able to stay fit. Pecorino has had some issues as well but didnt really look too interesting when healthy either.
I was hoping my Sicilian boys would come good. Mancini is an interesting one. Will be play primarily with the u23 next season?
 

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