Juve still after Barzagli! (100 Viewers)

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David01

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While there is no doubt that there is a difference between the newbies in our board and the experienced wolves in Milan, there are three things you forgot to mention :

1. Mutu spent 1 year out of football because he failed a drugs test for cocaine.
2. When he made his comeback he was used only occasionally, playing every third match only, mostly as a sub, out of position. He wasn't considered a world class striker anymore.
3. The team that sold Mutu to Fiorentina was a serie B club that just lost hundreds of millions.

Those were desperate times that called for desperate measures. If some foreign club wanted Mutu we would have certainly sold him there, for higher price. But it looks like no-one apart from Fiorentina wanted him and no-one was willing to pay more than 8m .
Today, looking from this perspective, we can say that it was a mistake to sell him, even more for such low price. Our directors admited that selling Mutu was a mistake.
But back then everything was different. You must have that in mind before you start criticizing.

After all, didn't we sell another young winger, sometime in 1999, for £10.5 million only ? I wonder why didn't Moggi see that the winger will become the best attacker in the world and will cost 5 times more only couple of years later.

Don't look with the eyes of a man who lives in 2008 when you talk about the years 1969, 1979, 1999, or 2006 in this case.
very good post, respect at last someone here reminds everyone here we had no choice but to sell some of our champions, people tend to forget so quick
 

David01

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we were losing millions and millions , you think we had a choice but to sell
what does it make a difference if the player wanted to stay we had to sell if we weren't going to be bankrupt
we couldn't afford to pay all their wages in B
I'm not having the same dicussion again
if you want to keep dissing the board for selling or buying anyone, go ahead but I've had enough
I look forward and don't want to look back, what is the point
he was sold and nothing can change that except buy him back
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Guys mutu was willing to stay in juve (refresh u're memories)!! So its not like we had no choice but to sell him......
You're missing the point again.
We lost ( or we were about to lose) millions. Hundreds of millions.
We had players earning 3,4,5+ millions per year. Del Piero, Trez, Buffon, Ibra, Mutu, Cannavaro, Thuram, Vieira, Nedved, Camo, Zambrotta, Emerson.
What we were forced to do was to earn money from their sales and to reduce the wage bill as much as possible.
So, we had to make a choice to sell some of them and to keep some.

Del Piero was sure to stay and he was a Juventino enough to accept a paycut and help the team.
From the others Cannavaro was a WC winner, he was old but expensive and he was getting very high wages. An obvious choice to sell him.
Zambrotta was another one who was bringing lots of money from his sale and we used him to add another player who costed very little, who was 34 already, but who was getting astronomic wages - Thuram.
Emerson is another obvious choice.
Vieira could also bring us a lot of money, he was getting huge wages and he wanted nothing else but to leave. Just another obvious choice.

So we were left with Nedved, Camoranesi, Trezeguet, Buffon, Ibrahimovic and Mutu. We wanted to keep 4, maximum 5 of them.
Nedved and Buffon were world class and they accepted to stay.
Then there is Ibrahimovic. Our directors said that it was Zlatan who we wanted to keep. If we kept him we would have most certainly sold Trezeguet.
But Zlatan didn't want to stay at all. Neither did Trez, tbh, but Zlatan didn't want to accept a paycut (he actually wanted more money), and with his sale we would have gained more money than we would have gotten from Trezeguet. At the end we had to make a choice and we decided to sell Zlatan and force Trez to stay.
Now some may say it was a mistake, eventhough, imo, the mistake was selling him to Inter, not the sale itself.

Camoranesi and Mutu are the only ones left. Since we sold one of them and we forced the other one to stay i can conclude that our finances allowed us to keep only 5 of our stars and only 1 of Camo/Mutu.
We were well covered in attack and we had no MR's so the final choice was keeping Camoranesi and selling Mutu.
You're saying that Mutu wanted to stay while we all know that Camoranesi wanted to leave. Then why did our board keep Camo and sold Mutu ? Why didn't we do it the other way around or why didn't we keep both of them ?
We didn't keep both of them because we obviously needed more money and we kept Camo, not Mutu, because of the reason i mentioned above.
 

tassard

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Zlatan for 24m
Mutu was 8m+ Bojinov on loan, with the option to buy him at the end of the season.

Well that wasn't too bad.
Zlatan had a very bad last season with us and he didn't play well in the WC either.
And Mutu's price was very good considering that he showed nothing special under Capello+ we got the chance to sign a rising star(but we didn't:p)
 
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