its useless to say anything to you, because you dont know what ur talking about, have you ever been at delle alpi and/or a major match in spain?
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I dunno if you been there, but delle alpi is extremely huge, you dont get the noise and atmosphere caught up by tv at all, i promise, i know how it is there, Juve fans in curva sud are known for making the best atmosphere.
English style stadiums catches the sound much better since they are more intensely designed, the crowd are closer to the pitch/tv-production staff.
English style stadiums catches the sound much better since they are more intensely designed, the crowd are closer to the pitch/tv-production staff.
I have been to Real - Barca about 4 years ago, when I was in Barcelona, the atsmophere was amazing, I have been to Man United - Liverpool, again the atsomophere was intense, and I have been when we have played Lazio. I have never seen Juve play live, so perhaps I cant comment completely, but all I know is alot of people (juve fans included) say that the atmosphere is awful! You cant say that about a game for Roma, there is always an atsmosphere thats why clubs/players/fans love coming to the Olimpico!
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If a stadium's huge, the acoustics should generally be worse, shouldn't they?
I'm well aware that the noise and atmosphere isn't the same on TV, but I'm judging from comparing the TV noise of Juventus fans compared to the TV noise of teams with 'better' fans
If a stadium's huge, the acoustics should generally be worse, shouldn't they?
I'm well aware that the noise and atmosphere isn't the same on TV, but I'm judging from comparing the TV noise of Juventus fans compared to the TV noise of teams with 'better' fans
Actually watching the game on Rustavi 2 the crowd at the Delle Alpi was making a lot of noise, and if I knew Italian I probably could understand all the chants. The fans did a good job at making themselves heard last night.
Nicole, Capello did not come to Juve for the crowds and the almost out-of-control fan base. I'm pretty sure he came north to Turin to actually win a few trophies. So I don't think Fabio is all that distraught and regreting his move. Just a hunch.....
Nicole, Capello did not come to Juve for the crowds and the almost out-of-control fan base. I'm pretty sure he came north to Turin to actually win a few trophies. So I don't think Fabio is all that distraught and regreting his move. Just a hunch.....
Darn right. I hardly think Capello is going to regret leaving a sinking Sensi ship to lead a club that's currently both undefeated in Europe's biggest club competition and at the top of Serie A. He'd be an idiot if he did over the sparse crowds. He is just, like all of us, making the claim that Juve deserves better.
As for English teams seeming to have more atmosphere on TV... that's true given the way they do mike up the stands and the fact that EPL attendance is typically 90%+ capacity while Serie A is a dismal 60% or so on average. But when the RAI cameras rarely do turn on the tifosi, you can't match the fans' enthusiasm with flares, bombs, and the like. (You just can't hear the bombs going off the way they set up their audio at stadiums.)
As for English teams seeming to have more atmosphere on TV... that's true given the way they do mike up the stands and the fact that EPL attendance is typically 90%+ capacity while Serie A is a dismal 60% or so on average. But when the RAI cameras rarely do turn on the tifosi, you can't match the fans' enthusiasm with flares, bombs, and the like.
(You just can't hear the bombs going off the way they set up their audio at stadiums.)
Only an attendance of 18,089 went to see Juventus-Bayern Munich in the Stadio Delle Alpi
Juve Attendance ’Saddens’ Capello
Fabio Capello has a good point, Juve deserve to play in front of a big crowd. It's annoying to see AC Milan and Inter Milan's stadium attracting more people than the Stadio Delle Alpi when Juventus has been playing better football. I hope the attendance trouble is resolved and Juventus win the Champions League
Juve Attendance ’Saddens’ Capello
Fabio Capello has a good point, Juve deserve to play in front of a big crowd. It's annoying to see AC Milan and Inter Milan's stadium attracting more people than the Stadio Delle Alpi when Juventus has been playing better football. I hope the attendance trouble is resolved and Juventus win the Champions League
I can assure you all that the Juve tifosi make just as much noise as the Milan fans. I've been standing in curva sud and I've also been standing among the Milan fans at San Siro (had to follow a friend who supports Milan and I must admit that even though I hate Milan it was quite fun) and the atmosphere and passion is the same so to say that we have worse fans than Milan is just wrong. The ones that goes to our matches have a passion for Juve that is just incredible and they sing their asses of for 90+ minutes. It is very likely that the tifosi in the south of Italy is even more passionate about fotball and I would love to attend a match in the south one day to feel the atmosphere.
I can also assure you that the atmosphere at matches in Italy is ten times better than it is in England. I can't say anything about how it is in Spain cause I've never been there but what I've heard from people that have been there is that it's not that good.
I can also assure you that the atmosphere at matches in Italy is ten times better than it is in England. I can't say anything about how it is in Spain cause I've never been there but what I've heard from people that have been there is that it's not that good.
the attendence for the roma game was about 30.000, i think there was a bit more in there than the offical attendence. what does everyone think?
some english lower clubs say they have a lower attendences than they actually have so they pay less tax. i know juve attendences are still 2 low and a disgrace but do you think there was more than 30k?
some english lower clubs say they have a lower attendences than they actually have so they pay less tax. i know juve attendences are still 2 low and a disgrace but do you think there was more than 30k?
It was also dumping sheets of rain the whole day.
To inject a few statistics into this debate, here's something from the 2003/4 BBC Football Yearbook:
Serie A regular season attandance percentages (of stadium capacity):
1. Reggina 87.7%
2. Modena 86.4%
3. Inter 68.7%
4. Como 66.7%
5. Milan 66.6%
6. Roma 65.6%
7. Atalanta 62.3%
8. Brescia 62.0%
9. Bologna 61.3%
10. Parma 59.7%
11. Juve 59.4%
12. Lazio 58.8%
13. Empoli 58.5%
14. Piacenza 42.4%
15. Perugia 42.3%
16. Udinese 41.7%
17. Chievo 41.0%
18. Torino 20.8% -- if you thought delle Alpi was too big for us!!...
Contrast this with the EPL that same year:
1. Man U 99.8%
2. Newcastle 99.5%
3. Tottenham 99.1%
4. Arsenal 98.8%
5. West Brom 98.5%
6. Charlton 98.3%
7. Man City 98.3%
8. West Ham 98.1%
9. Birmingham 97.8%
10. Leeds 97.3%
11. Liverpool 96.1%
12. Everton 95.8%
13. Southampton 95.6%
14. Chelsea 93.7%
15. Bolton 91.3%
16. Middlesbrough 89.1%
17. Fulham 88.9%
18. Blackburn 86.1%
19. Sunderland 82.2%
20. Aston Villa 80.8%
It's not even close.
Meanwhile, Juve far and away had the highest away attendance percentage of all Serie A teams at 87.5%.
To inject a few statistics into this debate, here's something from the 2003/4 BBC Football Yearbook:
Serie A regular season attandance percentages (of stadium capacity):
1. Reggina 87.7%
2. Modena 86.4%
3. Inter 68.7%
4. Como 66.7%
5. Milan 66.6%
6. Roma 65.6%
7. Atalanta 62.3%
8. Brescia 62.0%
9. Bologna 61.3%
10. Parma 59.7%
11. Juve 59.4%
12. Lazio 58.8%
13. Empoli 58.5%
14. Piacenza 42.4%
15. Perugia 42.3%
16. Udinese 41.7%
17. Chievo 41.0%
18. Torino 20.8% -- if you thought delle Alpi was too big for us!!...
Contrast this with the EPL that same year:
1. Man U 99.8%
2. Newcastle 99.5%
3. Tottenham 99.1%
4. Arsenal 98.8%
5. West Brom 98.5%
6. Charlton 98.3%
7. Man City 98.3%
8. West Ham 98.1%
9. Birmingham 97.8%
10. Leeds 97.3%
11. Liverpool 96.1%
12. Everton 95.8%
13. Southampton 95.6%
14. Chelsea 93.7%
15. Bolton 91.3%
16. Middlesbrough 89.1%
17. Fulham 88.9%
18. Blackburn 86.1%
19. Sunderland 82.2%
20. Aston Villa 80.8%
It's not even close.
Meanwhile, Juve far and away had the highest away attendance percentage of all Serie A teams at 87.5%.
