Julian Draxler - AM LC - Schalke 04 (52 Viewers)

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Hust

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Maybe it feels weird to say that about Vidal.but that's the truth.
we need a great AM more than we need him.

ANd i love Arturo and ofcourse whould have liked him to stay and have that AM anyway.
Sadly, at 28 and 2 years left on a contract his number was up to give way. With Asamoah as an option for CM if we get a LB (even if we don't) to an already packed CM setup, getting 40m out of Vidal wasn't bad business IMO but people that have a personal affection to him will say otherwise.

Khedira, Marchisio, Stuaro, Asamoah, Pereyra (if necessary), Pogba is 6 quality midfielders for 3 positions. 2 of which can play more than one position too. :tup:
 

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Klin

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Oscar doesnt have the genuis aspect. Not at all tbh, and neighter is isco. Isco and oscar have other qualities.

It was referring to Götze, who ticks all the boxes. If you would proper follow my every post like you usually do, you should know that strawman klinsman :(
Zach, Isco is a genius and it's an insult to both the German and the Spaniard for mentioning them in the same sentence with the Diego Costa look a like.
 

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So strange to see everyone confident in Draxler.

Player doesnt like serie a
Player is liked by fans and threated well by club and coach
Player has absolutely no reason to leave to us, apart from "bigger and more money", where as he can just wait untill la liga or epl comes knocking.
I'm a bit surprised EPL hasent crashed that party yet.

Marotta and Allegri have yet to mention his name.

Wich is logical. He doesnt suit the type of trequartista we need, and Allegri is very well aware of that. Wich is why he only mentionned Oscar, Isco and now Götze.
Well yeah, depending on the team.


We need a cam that is about vision, passing and genuis. Draxler is about dribbeling and speed. Draxler isnt remotely as much playmaker as Götze is. And with Tevez gone, we really really are gonna miss that.

If we'd need a winger, he'd be litterally the best one under 50 mil right now. But we got a lot of winger talent, and not a single playmaking cam
If we actually end up with Draxler, how would you justify this purchase in your mind? In terms of the move from the club after selling Vidal, and the actual profile of player given he type Allgeri specified. Simply put, would you agree or disagree with the move?
 
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    Paratici's phone is bugged, he sells info to GDM or what?
    Di Marzio is full of crap about draxler. He has been continiously reporting stuff about him, while we pretty much only worked on vidal and gotze
    He's doing passive reading. Draxler said he'd prefer other leagues, so Di Marzio now goes for the money card.

    I'm honestly impressed how he is making this complete draxler story on his own. i'm learning alot about how journalists work in this way.
     

    Roman

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    Sadly, at 28 and 2 years left on a contract his number was up to give way. With Asamoah as an option for CM if we get a LB (even if we don't) to an already packed CM setup, getting 40m out of Vidal wasn't bad business IMO but people that have a personal affection to him will say otherwise.

    Khedira, Marchisio, Stuaro, Asamoah, Pereyra (if necessary), Pogba is 6 quality midfielders for 3 positions. 2 of which can play more than one position too. :tup:
    Completely agree.
    We still have one of the best midfields out there in Europe imo,even without Vidal.
     
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    Meh, his agent's job is to get him the best contract. He is not going to start with his expected wage - he is going to try and hit a homerun, just like Paratici will probably start with 2.6 or some other lowball. He's stupid if its a hard demand. If this story is true, I'd fully expect Paratici to come with a counter and for the parties to agree somewhere in between. I wouldn't go over 3.5 unless the incremental wage is bonus that would imply that he is performing like an elite talent.
     
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    Zacheryah

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    Are u just oblivious to everything or do u enjoy posting the same shit and not listening to the actual press conferences
    The only source on Draxler, has been Di Marzio, and everyone else is using him as source.


    We have had bayern, guardiola, gotze himself, allegri and marotta talking about gotze.
     

    Klin

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    Sadly, at 28 and 2 years left on a contract his number was up to give way. With Asamoah as an option for CM if we get a LB (even if we don't) to an already packed CM setup, getting 40m out of Vidal wasn't bad business IMO but people that have a personal affection to him will say otherwise.

    Khedira, Marchisio, Stuaro, Asamoah, Pereyra (if necessary), Pogba is 6 quality midfielders for 3 positions. 2 of which can play more than one position too. :tup:
    Since when is that a good reason to sell?

    Even you're gonna mention that he asked to leave, we handled it pretty badly. It was too quick and hasty, and I don't agree with how the club handles the "we only sell when the players ask to be sold" mentality. It's rather weak IMO.
     
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    Zacheryah

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    Zach, Isco is a genius and it's an insult to both the German and the Spaniard for mentioning them in the same sentence with the Diego Costa look a like.
    Isco is widely considered the best spanish midfield talent, and Götze is widely considered a superior player.


    Oscar and Isco are different players, and i prefer Oscar because he is more efficient despite beeing the better technical player.


    But Götze is a player that stands about both
     
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    Since when is that a good reason to sell?

    Even you're gonna mention that he asked to leave, we handled it pretty badly. It was too quick and hasty, and I don't agree with how the club handles the "we only sell when the players ask to be sold" mentality. It's rather weak IMO.
    He's probably been itching to get out for a year... We've dealt with a full year of rumours... I do wonder how much had to do with a falling out over playing hurt during the World Cup.
     

    digitalbash

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    Since when is that a good reason to sell?

    Even you're gonna mention that he asked to leave, we handled it pretty badly. It was too quick and hasty, and I don't agree with how the club handles the "we only sell when the players ask to be sold" mentality. It's rather weak IMO.
    I agree. If Vidal really did ask to be sold, we should of held an auction. At the end of the day Vidal is an asset. We should of got full money for our asset.
     

    Hust

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    If we actually end up with Draxler, how would you justify this purchase in your mind? In terms of the move from the club after selling Vidal, and the actual profile of player given he type Allgeri specified. Simply put, would you agree or disagree with the move?
    Here is how I will justify it if anyone cares: :D

    1.) young guy, if he turns out well can be a long standing player for Juve. If he does great, sell abroad for mega money.
    2.) we have a habit of bringing out the potential in players young and/or old, why can't we with him?
    3.) Vidal: 40m for a guy asking to leave with 2 years on his contract and 28 vs a guy that could finalize the formation Allegri is asking for.
    4.) Seems like Draxler can play equally well in that AM (LRC) roles so opens up the possibilities of other formations
    5.) Making more than 40m from Vidal wasn't going to happen for reasons stated above but if we get Draxler for 25-30m we could technically still sell him for 20-25 and make up most of what we paid IF he doesn't work out.


    I really don't get why people are opposed to taking risks when more times than not our club directors have made the right choices. Or would everyone rather we simply use Pereyra?
     
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    Sadly, at 28 and 2 years left on a contract his number was up to give way. With Asamoah as an option for CM if we get a LB (even if we don't) to an already packed CM setup, getting 40m out of Vidal wasn't bad business IMO but people that have a personal affection to him will say otherwise.

    Khedira, Marchisio, Stuaro, Asamoah, Pereyra (if necessary), Pogba is 6 quality midfielders for 3 positions. 2 of which can play more than one position too. :tup:
    How dare u say we will be fine without Vidal

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    The only source on Draxler, has been Di Marzio, and everyone else is using him as source.


    We have had bayern, guardiola, gotze himself, allegri and marotta talking about gotze.
    allegri and marotta talked about gotze as much as they did about draxler
     

    Hust

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    Since when is that a good reason to sell?

    Even you're gonna mention that he asked to leave, we handled it pretty badly. It was too quick and hasty, and I don't agree with how the club handles the "we only sell when the players ask to be sold" mentality. It's rather weak IMO.
    Its a damn good time to sell when the player with "two years left on his contract and 28 years old" asks to leave.


    Yeah, that's a very good time to sell.


    Are people still trying to blame the club and ignoring the fact that Vidal said he wants a new challenge or are people trying to blame the club for Vidal not being challenged? Seems to me no matter what, all roads lead back to the Board.
     
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    Its a damn good time to sell when the player with "two years left on his contract and 28 years old" asks to leave.


    Yeah, that's a very good time to sell.


    Are people still trying to blame the club and ignoring the fact that Vidal said he wants a new challenge or are people trying to blame the club for Vidal not being challenged? Seems to me no matter what, all roads lead back to the Board.
    thats all it is
     

    Klin

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    Isco is widely considered the best spanish midfield talent, and Götze is widely considered a superior player.


    Oscar and Isco are different players, and i prefer Oscar because he is more efficient despite beeing the better technical player.


    But Götze is a player that stands about both
    I'd be more happy with Isco, but he's more unrealistic than Gotze, so go figure.

    He's probably been itching to get out for a year... We've dealt with a full year of rumours... I do wonder how much had to do with a falling out over playing hurt during the World Cup.
    So we should have been more prepared, no?
     

    Klin

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    Its a damn good time to sell when the player with "two years left on his contract and 28 years old" asks to leave.


    Yeah, that's a very good time to sell.


    Are people still trying to blame the club and ignoring the fact that Vidal said he wants a new challenge or are people trying to blame the club for Vidal not being challenged? Seems to me no matter what, all roads lead back to the Board.
    You're making it sound as if that's a rule. There was no good timing for selling a player like Vidal, especially now. If we wanted money, we could've sold him last Summer. He asked to leave? Then wait and try to fetch as many bids as possible. Vidal attracts a lot of clubs. The Board are hiding behind the "fact" that he wanted to leave, as if they're promoting that brand, but still they could have tried and get more than 37M for him.
     
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