Juan Manuel Vargas - LB/LW - Fiorentina (7 Viewers)

[Boksic]

Not when it comes to one of their most valuable and in-form players.

They have already said that only Jovetic is untouchable.

If we put in a decent offer, there is no reason why we cannot get Vargas

 

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[JBF]

And you think we're capable of making such an offer viola can't refuse?


I doubt it.

 

[Dostoevsky]

We're so old fashioned.

Going back to rarely used 4-4-2 and buy classic left/right wingers, those who aren't used in modern football anymore.

One part of me is for this transfer. Because he has great crossed and because he has a decent shot. Still, 20mln euros for him might be too much. Why can't we get linked with more attacking players for the same amount of money...Like Krasic, Sanchez or Hazard.

I'm 50-50 for this transfer.

 

[JuveJay]

You think he is too limited, restricted to just playing on the flank?

 

[Dostoevsky]

You think he is too limited, restricted to just playing on the flank?

Partly, yeah.

Some player like him shouldn't be our priority. But we got Italian coach, that means we'll be getting defensive minded players

They think it's good. I wonder why we can't see those at Manchester, Inter, Barcelona, Bayern or Real.

 

[JBF]

Dus, the classic 4-4-2 you're talking about could easily be 4-2-3-1 on the pitch just like Prandelli's Viola plays it. Just picture either Seba or Krasic on the right with Vargas on the left while Diego plays behind the lone striker.

And it can easily transform to 4-5-1 when defending. That's good football if played the right way.

 

[Dostoevsky]

It's old football. And with Del Neri we'll be playing classic 4-4-2 most likely.

I don't see us changing it at all and I see us doing bad in Europe with it.

4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 is the way to go. But Vargas for 20mln euros? Why?

 

[JuveJay]

It's old football. And with Del Neri we'll be playing classic 4-4-2 most likely.

I don't see us changing it at all and I see us doing bad in Europe with it.

4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 is the way to go. But Vargas for 20mln euros? Why?

Inter did ok in Europe with midfielders who break up play, but they also had a top coach who could get his team to play on the edge.

 

[Ahmed]

not to mention 2 very mobile strikers.

 

[Red]

It's old football. And with Del Neri we'll be playing classic 4-4-2 most likely.

I don't see us changing it at all and I see us doing bad in Europe with it.

4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 is the way to go. But Vargas for 20mln euros? Why?

Vargas is pretty much the ideal left winger for Del Neri's system.

Whether you agree with how he plays is, of course, a different matter.

I sort of agree with what you are saying, and I certainly wouldn't want two pure wingers out wide in a 4-4-2/4-2-3-1.

I generally like to have one wide player who looks to stay on the outside and cross, like Vargas, and one who looks to cut inside and get more involved in play in the centre of the pitch.

 

[giovanotti]

Everything depends on the fullbacks we're gonna or not gonna get. Good fullbacks should provide some good center shots as well, although Juve fans forgot what's that, thanks to Grygera, Zebina, DC, Moli and Grosso.

 

[Ahmed]

Vargas is pretty much the ideal left winger for Del Neri's system.

Whether you agree with how he plays is, of course, a different matter.

I sort of agree with what you are saying, and I certainly wouldn't want two pure wingers out wide in a 4-4-2/4-2-3-1.

I generally like to have one wide player who looks to stay on the outside and cross, like Vargas, and one who looks to cut inside and get more involved in play in the centre of the pitch.

David Silva.

 

[Mark]

I'd open a bottle of champ...sparkling wine if we got Vargas and Krasic/Hazard/Sanchez. Dzeko would LOVE playin' with these guys.

 

[K.O.]

I'd open a bottle of champ...sparkling wine if we got Vargas and Krasic/Hazard/Sanchez. Dzeko would LOVE playin' with these guys.

So, Dzeko is a done deal?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Vargas is pretty much the ideal left winger for Del Neri's system.

Whether you agree with how he plays is, of course, a different matter.

I sort of agree with what you are saying, and I certainly wouldn't want two pure wingers out wide in a 4-4-2/4-2-3-1.

I generally like to have one wide player who looks to stay on the outside and cross, like Vargas, and one who looks to cut inside and get more involved in play in the centre of the pitch.

Da.

I wouldn't mind getting Vargas if we're also getting someone like Hazard/Krasic/Sanchez. But pure wingers and classic 4-4-2 is a no no.

 

[Mark]

So, Dzeko is a done deal?

done deal only when on Juve site.



even Pazzini would benefit with players like that. Diego would take Cassano's role.

 

[j0ker]

I'd open a bottle of champ...sparkling wine if we got Vargas and Krasic/Hazard/Sanchez. Dzeko would LOVE playin' with these guys.

Stop playing with us.

 

[Gamaro]

Giovinco on the left wing can be just as deadly as Vargas, why waste our money?

It is rarly to find someone who thinks in this complete mentality,it isnt only about how good the players we buy but it also matters when it comes to money as well as upto which extent the players will fit in our squad irrespective of thier quality.

 

[Adrian]

It's old football. And with Del Neri we'll be playing classic 4-4-2 most likely.

I don't see us changing it at all and I see us doing bad in Europe with it.

4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 is the way to go. But Vargas for 20mln euros? Why?

We tried new football this season and got raped every week. No formation is bad if you have the players to suit it.

Vargas, a typical winger is not a bad choice..20 mill?? that may be too much, but at least we have a coach with a plan and is targeting what he needs.

 

[Jasp]

It's old football. And with Del Neri we'll be playing classic 4-4-2 most likely.

I don't see us changing it at all and I see us doing bad in Europe with it.

4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 is the way to go. But Vargas for 20mln euros? Why?

We tried new football this season and got raped every week. No formation is bad if you have the players to suit it.

Vargas, a typical winger is not a bad choice..20 mill?? that may be too much, but at least we have a coach with a plan and is targeting what he needs.

I agree. I think you should play the formation that suits the players best, and the adjust to the competition. Take a look at Bayern in CL this season, they got to the final with a 442, Inter plays 4231/433 with very allround wingers and attackers, that play the opposition.


This year our formation screamed 4231 since our full backs failed in every possible way and out midfield was too defensive minded. It is still crazy that none of your managers saw that. I guess their problem was, when things go bad, go defensively. If we buy the right ppl 442 can be very fine, what I would like us to do is to buy players who are tactically aware, and puts in a lot of effort. If there is anything we should learn from Inter, this season, it is that all players should be able and willing to play where it is needed, and willing to drop back.

If we have a plan, and I think we have, and Del Neri and Marrotta are probably communicating, then I think we on track. I also think that Vargas fits the characteristics of a modern player very well. Technically sound, high work rate and stamina and versatile. I'd welcome him.