Juan Cuadrado (20 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

Although I do realise that we as a club have progressed a lot in these recent years and we have much higher standards than we used to, some of you still need to learn how to value things you have got. Couple of seasons ago, people in here would have offered themselves to be burnt alive if that meant we could get player like Cuadrado and now some of you are questioning his abilities after 175 minutes spent in EPL. Please people, he's no demi-god like Messi, but he has more than enough to beat majority of Serie A defenders just by sprinting past them and I'm not even talking about dem sweet dribbles and crosses to Mandzukic..

We all wanted Cuadrado as a winger, so Conte could switch to the 4-3-3 he always talked about.

Zach wants Cuadrado as a wingback, which isn't his ideal position at all, so we can switch back to a 3-5-2...

Who knew, Zach was the biggest peasant of them all.

 

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[Zacheryah]

Oh, lovely try, failed completely.


We arent "switching back" to 3-5-2. We have it as default formation at the moment. See supercoppa and season opener. it will remain like this if we dont get an AM.
I'm not "wanting" 3-5-2. I'm wanting the formation that gets the most out of the players.


People like you, have this disgusting fetish to field 3 forwards, and dont give a damn shit about if that works or not. It has 3 forwards, so you can masturbate to it, and thats more then good enough right ?


For me its not. 4-3-3 With Draxler and Cuadrado would be completely fine for me. But we'd bench Dybala, wich is offcourse silly. 4-3-3 with dybala, is like 4-3-3 with tevez, doesnt work, so conte and allegri dont play it.


3-5-2 with Cuadrado and Sandro is an interesting formation. Its the only formation we can currently play when wanting to make the play. meaning the defensive contribution of Cuadrado will be of lesser importance, he'll mostly be playing very offensively. its extremely easy for the coach to set tactical rules for the rcm and rcb to compensate for this, compared to figure out how to keep the play wide with dybala as a winger, while not ruining dybala's game.



Sorry, i'm not like you, just trying to find ways to play a formation to masturbate to. I want to get most out of the players. Preferably, with a 4231. Realistically, with a 352.

 

[Xperd]

How about a Sig bet Zach ? 3-5-2 won't be our main formation.

I'm certain.

 

[Zacheryah]

How about a Sig bet Zach ? 3-5-2 won't be our main formation.

I'm certain.

Ask me when we finish the mercato

 

[Post Ironic]

Zach. You are such a peasant. 3-5-2 isn't our default formation. It's our formation with half the team injured. Aside from this, I'd prefer getting a Treq and playing 4-3-1-2, or 4-2-3-1... But right now, 4-3-3 would rape that 3-5-2 of yours all day and all night.

Now stop trying to pigeonhole us into a 3-5-2.

 

[Zacheryah]

Zach. You are such a peasant. 3-5-2 isn't our default formation. It's our formation with half the team injured. Aside from this, I'd prefer getting a Treq and playing 4-3-1-2, or 4-2-3-1... But right now, 4-3-3 would rape that 3-5-2 of yours all day and all night.

Now stop trying to pigeonhole us into a 3-5-2.

LOL

i'll first say that i offcourse want an AM. I've said that plenty of times. So we can play 4312 4231.
433 with dybala would render dybala useless on the wing or clogging the center cause no one keeping it wide. Wont work.


In the supercoppa, we had Marchisio, Pogba, Sturaro, Pereyra, Dybala all available. And guess what ?

Pereyra was benched, and we played 3-5-2. Because if we dont get an AM, we'll play 3-5-2.

 

[CalcioJuventus]

I would like us to try a formation like

----Dybala----Mandzukic---
-----------------------------------Cuadrado
Asamoah---Marchisio---Pogba

433 when we have the ball then Cuadrado drops into the mid when we dont

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

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[Post Ironic]

LOL

i'll first say that i offcourse want an AM. I've said that plenty of times. So we can play 4312 4231.
433 with dybala would render dybala useless on the wing or clogging the center cause no one keeping it wide. Wont work.


In the supercoppa, we had Marchisio, Pogba, Sturaro, Pereyra, Dybala all available. And guess what ?

Pereyra was benched, and we played 3-5-2. Because if we dont get an AM, we'll play 3-5-2.

Face it Zach, we'll be playing 4 at the back. I know it hurts, but this shall be the case, and your sadness and dismay will not stop it.

Even if we don't get an AM

 

[Zacheryah]

Face it Zach, we'll be playing 4 at the back. I know it hurts, but this shall be the case, and your sadness and dismay will not stop it.

Even if we don't get an AM

Oh, do we now ?


And why did we play 3-5-2 with sturaro as midfielder in the supercoppa, when we had everyone fit to play 4-3-1-2 ?


I mean, i come up with explenations and formations. All you do is "no we dont do that, we do this", while we havent even done it once.

 

[Xperd]

Face it Zach, we'll be playing 4 at the back. I know it hurts, but this shall be the case, and your sadness and dismay will not stop it.

Even if we don't get an AM

It'll be 4321 or 433 eventually

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If we don't get AM that is

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Oh, do we now ?


And why did we play 3-5-2 with sturaro as midfielder in the supercoppa, when we had everyone fit to play 4-3-1-2 ?


I mean, i come up with explenations and formations. All you do is "no we dont do that, we do this", while we havent even done it once.

Just stop.

We had NONE to play that TQ role.

 

[Zacheryah]

4-3-3 with 1 winger

4-3-2-1, is basically wanting to say 4312 with pereyra and dybala, but not saying it just for the sake of not saying it.


Nah.


Better pray some more we get that AM, or you can start taking prozac

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It'll be 4321 or 433 eventually

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If we don't get AM that is

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Just stop.

We had NONE to play that TQ role.

Oh, was he injured ?


Because "we are playing 3-5-2 cause of injuries"


Please tell me the name of the injured player that was our trequartista

 

[Post Ironic]

Oh, do we now ?


And why did we play 3-5-2 with sturaro as midfielder in the supercoppa, when we had everyone fit to play 4-3-1-2 ?


I mean, i come up with explenations and formations. All you do is "no we dont do that, we do this", while we havent even done it once.

We did it all last season, silly bird. We shall again this season. It's just a matter of when, not if. Now cluck like a chicken for me, baby.

 

[Zacheryah]

Actually, you finally make the point.


We have NONE to play TQ. So we play 3-5-2.

Wich is entirely my point, and why you should hope we get a TQ

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We did it all last season, silly bird. We shall again this season. It's just a matter of when, not if. Now cluck like a chicken for me, baby.

In a 4312 you need at least one of the SS and/or CAM to be a player that comes into the ball and can keep it and distribute it.
Last season we had Tevez doing that extremely well. In the end we had Vidal in the CAM position, whom to a much lesser degree can also do that.


Currently, we dont have any SS or CAM that is able to do that. Wich is why we arent playing it.

Proof : Supercoppa. We had Pereyra. pereyra works as a cam when you have tevez. Doesnt work with dybala. SO we played 352

 

[CalcioJuventus]

4-3-3 with 1 winger

4-3-2-1, is basically wanting to say 4312 with pereyra and dybala, but not saying it just for the sake of not saying it.


Nah.


Better pray some more we get that AM, or you can start taking prozac

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Oh, was he injured ?


Because "we are playing 3-5-2 cause of injuries"


Please tell me the name of the injured player that was our trequartista

We can easily play 433 with Cuadrado in a trident along with Mandz/Morata and Dybala.

 

[Zacheryah]

We can easily play 433 with Cuadrado in a trident along with Mandz/Morata and Dybala.

Dybala is wasted in a 433
He's either pushed wide and rendered useless, or clogging the center with no one keeping it wide.


I take you were one of those that was posting 433 formations with tevez as a winger ?

 

[Xperd]

Oh yeah , we'll keep playing 3 CB's when there are injury concerns over atleast two of them.

Keep being delusional if that helps you sleep better at night.

Allegri will play his preferred 4-3-something when we get all our players back.Deal with it.

 

[Zacheryah]

You are changing your argument. Interesting.

He will not, if we dont get an am, unless we play 4312counter. Wich we will in europe

 

[Post Ironic]

I warned you Zach, remember this. When we start playing 4 at the back regularly, you'll get depressed, spiral out of control, replace testosterone with estrogen production, and by spring, when you weightlift, you shall look like this:

 

[Xperd]

You are changing your argument. Interesting.

He will not, if we dont get an am, unless we play 4312counter. Wich we will in europe

Because I don't see a possibility of us playing a 352 as the main formation only unless there's a serious injury crisis like now.

We have the same CB depth as last season except that Barzagli and Caceres
are injury prone and can't be relied upon when we need to field that formation regularly.

Also Cuadrado played as a winger for majority of his time at Fiorentina.
He played SS for them as well.

Chelsea brought him to play as a RW.

These are just facts.

Playing 433 doesn't necessarily have to be a symmetric 433.
We played a 4321 for good parts of the season last yr as well.