Jorge Andrade (5 Viewers)
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How quickly we forget the Igor Tudor situation.
There's a reason there are player contracts and why the likes of Berlusconi get so irate over having his players involved in international matches.
Injuries are part of the landscape. Player representation will simply not allow a player and their million-euro lifestyle to go unpaid like a homeless bum because he got hurt. Maybe they don't get workman's compensation for injuries on the job. But that's why it's a contract. Sporting contracts typically don't stipulate, "You can fire me or refuse to pay me if I get hurt." That would be insane.
So why would you expect it to be different?
There's a reason there are player contracts and why the likes of Berlusconi get so irate over having his players involved in international matches.
Injuries are part of the landscape. Player representation will simply not allow a player and their million-euro lifestyle to go unpaid like a homeless bum because he got hurt. Maybe they don't get workman's compensation for injuries on the job. But that's why it's a contract. Sporting contracts typically don't stipulate, "You can fire me or refuse to pay me if I get hurt." That would be insane.
So why would you expect it to be different?
Even if we were tracking Ivanovic since last summer,we still didn't need him back then.We just bought Andrade-supposedly our big signing in defence.And then there was a kid called Criscito-supposedly "the new Cannavaro" and very high rated by so called experts and fans.
Zapata isn't available at all and IF Udinese decide to sell him then certainly not for anything near 10 m €.More like ~20 m €.
Zapata isn't available at all and IF Udinese decide to sell him then certainly not for anything near 10 m €.More like ~20 m €.
The case of Criscito is definitely unfortunate as he and Andrade does not have much experience at Serie A.
There are a couple of matches where Ranieri did play Cris at LB which I thought was a better way to slowly integrate the player, unfortunately ...
Despite his comments that he preferred to stay at Genoa, Im sure he will be back sooner rather than later.
There are a couple of matches where Ranieri did play Cris at LB which I thought was a better way to slowly integrate the player, unfortunately ...
Despite his comments that he preferred to stay at Genoa, Im sure he will be back sooner rather than later.
Playing Criscito at left-back is not the dumbest thing I've heard all last season, but perhaps playing Palladino at winger might be. You cannot just throw people out in positions they've never played before and expect them to excel. I know Criscito did alright at LB with the Azzurrini last summer, but come on, people cannot expect him to play there yet in Serie A.
The thing about Criscito is that everyone is saying thay he only lacks physicality which is complete nonesense.. Yes ofcourse this is one of the areas he needs to improve but I've watched Mimmo many a time and the minute he comes up against a quality player he just gets turned inside out time and time again and becomes virtually hopeless and this is against someone as small as Giovinco or as talented as Foggia, everybody thinks the answer is to "build up his body" but even if he was bulked up he couldnt change his inability to cope with a player of pace, skill & creativity..
So what makes him any different to any other 21 year old defender in Italy? Because he played in our youth system? cos he made his debut for Genoa at such an eary age? cos of comparisions with Cannavaro? cos he's from Napoli? All these are based on opinions and not skill that Mimmo has displayed..
Yes who knows he may turn out to be a great defender, but at this stage it's like picking the lottery with random numbers
So what makes him any different to any other 21 year old defender in Italy? Because he played in our youth system? cos he made his debut for Genoa at such an eary age? cos of comparisions with Cannavaro? cos he's from Napoli? All these are based on opinions and not skill that Mimmo has displayed..
Yes who knows he may turn out to be a great defender, but at this stage it's like picking the lottery with random numbers
Well it depends on Criscito himself, only he can answer that.. Will he start to concentrate a bit harder?, will he improve his skills?, will he work on his strenth?.. I most certainly am not a fortune teller and based on performances rather than hype I would say yes, but ofcourse the minute he starts to perform for an extened period of time people will crucify me for not giving him for not believing in him, so overall I would keep his contract to some degree as A. we wouldn't get too much for him financially speaking and B. He may improve in areas which will make him a decent defender.. But there's no clear cut decision, we can't predict something without the benfit of hindsight and in particular this case where Criscito hasn't displayed performances good enough at both Juve & Genoa to warrant such belief but hey who knows
i agree with gazzo. I would want criscito to succeed so much, but so far, he just couldn't live up to any expectation. It's just a fact that he couldn't prove anything so far. He did decent in some competitions (azzurrini), but it's not that he clearly made notice of himself. It's a bit of a problem that he's LB also. I mean with molinaro and de ceglie, we have young and ambitious players in that position and at the moment, he cannot replace even molinaro.
So what to do? I'm not saying that criscito failed completely, but, as gazzo pointed out, it's NOT a problem of his physique, but a problem of skill really, that made him look bad in some games. But i'm not denying that the boy could very well have some talent. To me, we did the right thing loaning him out... Offloading him would have made no sense, since we paid a lot (too much, maybe) for him, so loaning him out, especially to a team like genoa was the only right thing to do in my opinion. I mean he's co-owned, and we'll have all the possibilities once he's ready for the big-stage.
So what to do? I'm not saying that criscito failed completely, but, as gazzo pointed out, it's NOT a problem of his physique, but a problem of skill really, that made him look bad in some games. But i'm not denying that the boy could very well have some talent. To me, we did the right thing loaning him out... Offloading him would have made no sense, since we paid a lot (too much, maybe) for him, so loaning him out, especially to a team like genoa was the only right thing to do in my opinion. I mean he's co-owned, and we'll have all the possibilities once he's ready for the big-stage.
