Jonathan Zebina To Milan (3 Viewers)

white_rabbit

Senior Member
Apr 9, 2006
592
i dont like him personally, but i think its a bad idea to sell him. we already loosing defenders and its wrong to loose more.

as for what he might have or haven't said i really don't care as most of the time the media play with words to create buzz (he said , she said)
 

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Ahmedios

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2006
5,107
zebina actually said that?:confused2
Yes, he did say that.

we bought Grygera and Salihamidzic, both of them can play on his position
Certainly, Grygera can play as a right back and a centre back, also Salihamdizic can play as a right back and a right winger. We are in no need of Zebina anymore especially if we buy another two centre defenders to partner Criscito as new players to our defence.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
Zebina is very clumsy, inconsistent, his positioning is very bad and he isn't loyal to Juve, Do you forget what he said when we was demoted?

Mate, he is just saving his career. To illustrate, he wants to leave the door opened for any club to sign him and at the same time, he doesn't want to lose Juventus if he hasn't been offered any good contracts by another clubs.
uhhh not really, he was pretty clumsy before he came to juve but since hes been here hes been pretty reliable and solid but i dont know maybe you haven't seen him play that much. I highly doubt he would have maintained his position in the first team for near enough 1 and a half years untill the injury hit if he was what you wrongly describe him to be. And i dont think your in the position to question any of our current players loyalty, if they were not loyal then they simply wouldn't be here.

U R wrong in all part of the post, except the grammar one.
Thank you very much for your complementing of my grammar, if you dont agree with my opinion, thats fine. In my opinion zebina is a quailty player and a loyal servant.

zebina actually said that?:confused2
No he didnt say that, his words were taken out of context. He said something along the lines of what every other player said, about being disappointed with relegation and that he will consider his future with the club, which in the circumstances is more than acceptable as Camo and trez said the same things.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
we have grygera, salihamidic and also balza that can play as RB too.
left side can be chielini/criscito.
we need to sell all of our CB's.
buy barzagli-metzelder+another cb for backup.
i have explained to you in the other thread......
just to clarify.....
defence for next year should be =
1st)Chiellini-Grygera-Barzagli-Zebina
2nd)Balza-Criscito-Kovac-Biri

Sali is a better winger
if we get metzelder then, and only then grygera should move to the right, metzelder in the middle and zebina would be back up instead of biri, but i doubt we will get metz
 

Ahmedios

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2006
5,107
uhhh not really, he was pretty clumsy before he came to juve but since hes been here hes been pretty reliable and solid but i dont know maybe you haven't seen him play that much. I highly doubt he would have maintained his position in the first team for near enough 1 and a half years untill the injury hit if he was what you wrongly describe him to be. And i dont think your in the position to question any of our current players loyalty, if they were not loyal then they simply wouldn't be here.
Mate, I watch every single match to Juve since 1999, I missed around six matches per season in all competitions. That's why I can say that I follow the team well and in my opinion, all our defenders in the previous couple of seasons were far better than him; Cannavarro, Thuram, Zambrotta, Chiellini, Balzaretti, etc. And there is another point here, we are in no need for him now, we already will have, starting from the next season, Grygera and Salihamdizic and both of them are better than him, at least, on attacking. You can say that we can use Zebina as a centre defender and I say that we already bought Criscito and there are two defenders on the way to join us. Hence, I see that we should accept any appropriate offer to sell him.

Commenting on the bolded part, some players asked to transfer to another teams after our demotion and some players were forced to stay like Camoranesi and Zebina. Regarding the loyalty thing, what is the difference between players like Del Piero, Nedved and Buffon from one side and players like Camoranesi and Trezeguet on the other side? All of them are world class players and I can't deny this, but the last two said more than twice that they were forced to stay while the first three have shown their commitment and loyalty directly after our demotion. Even though, I respect everyone's own opinions and choices but as a Juventino I care about the sake of Juventus first of all and then comes anything else. Pardon me, I'm just a human.
 

AbuGadanzieri

Senior Member
Jan 8, 2006
1,465
Zebina makes Juventus pledge Wednesday 21 February, 2007

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Jonathan Zebina has rubbished rumours of a Milan move by insisting he wants to stay at Juventus.

The stopper is contracted to the Bianconeri until June 2009, but was thought to be looking for a new club given his injury problems over the last two years and his apparent frosty relationship with boss Didier Deschamps.

“Unless Juventus have sold me without telling me then I am still a Bianconero,” said Zebina on Wednesday.

“I was surprised to read the news in the papers, which assumed that my supposed transfer had already been finalised.

“I challenge anyone to find a contract with Milan signed by me,” added the former Roma full-back.

“My future? I want to stay here in a competitive squad.

“My teammates and myself have asked for the necessary guarantees and I think the club is making the right moves to build a team which can fight at the highest levels.

“We will need an important signing in each department, but these are things that the Coach and the club officials must discuss.

The former Cannes man has admitted adapting to Serie B has been tough, but he soon hopes to be challenging for prestigious trophies once more.

“It bothers me to think that we won’t be playing the Champions League next year and this is also true for my teammates,” he added.

“We decided to stay in Serie B, but we do not want to sacrifice ourselves for more than two years.

“It wouldn’t be easy if players like Gianluigi Buffon or Mauro Camoranesi were to leave. We need to keep our champions and replace those who left in the summer.”


http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb21j.html


loooool even juve whant to discuss
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Zebina is a quality player?

there was a time when calling someone a quality player was only associated with the good players. Times have changed I see...
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
i dont understand why people dont like this guy, hes a solid player, 1 of our best defenders and hes very loyal to juve, so whats the problem?
Exactly. He is one of the best defenders we have now and he´s been playing pretty good under Deschamps. About loyalty, I doubt he is loyal, but he may prove it in the summer....

Mate, I watch every single match to Juve since 1999, I missed around six matches per season in all competitions. That's why I can say that I follow the team well and in my opinion, all our defenders in the previous couple of seasons were far better than him; Cannavarro, Thuram, Zambrotta, Chiellini, Balzaretti, etc. And there is another point here, we are in no need for him now, we already will have, starting from the next season, Grygera and Salihamdizic and both of them are better than him, at least, on attacking. You can say that we can use Zebina as a centre defender and I say that we already bought Criscito and there are two defenders on the way to join us. Hence, I see that we should accept any appropriate offer to sell him.

Commenting on the bolded part, some players asked to transfer to another teams after our demotion and some players were forced to stay like Camoranesi and Zebina. Regarding the loyalty thing, what is the difference between players like Del Piero, Nedved and Buffon from one side and players like Camoranesi and Trezeguet on the other side? All of them are world class players and I can't deny this, but the last two said more than twice that they were forced to stay while the first three have shown their commitment and loyalty directly after our demotion. Even though, I respect everyone's own opinions and choices but as a Juventino I care about the sake of Juventus first of all and then comes anything else. Pardon me, I'm just a human.
I disagree. You cannot say Balzaretti and Chiellini had better previous couple of seasons than Zebina when Chiellini and Balzaretti joined us last season. Check your facts.
 

Alex66

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2006
612
At the right time hes our best central back, if you like it, or not.And it seems that hes loyal, wherefore stop to degrade him:faq2:
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
Mate, I watch every single match to Juve since 1999, I missed around six matches per season in all competitions. That's why I can say that I follow the team well and in my opinion, all our defenders in the previous couple of seasons were far better than him; Cannavarro, Thuram, Zambrotta, Chiellini, Balzaretti, etc. And there is another point here, we are in no need for him now, we already will have, starting from the next season, Grygera and Salihamdizic and both of them are better than him, at least, on attacking. You can say that we can use Zebina as a centre defender and I say that we already bought Criscito and there are two defenders on the way to join us. Hence, I see that we should accept any appropriate offer to sell him.

Commenting on the bolded part, some players asked to transfer to another teams after our demotion and some players were forced to stay like Camoranesi and Zebina. Regarding the loyalty thing, what is the difference between players like Del Piero, Nedved and Buffon from one side and players like Camoranesi and Trezeguet on the other side? All of them are world class players and I can't deny this, but the last two said more than twice that they were forced to stay while the first three have shown their commitment and loyalty directly after our demotion. Even though, I respect everyone's own opinions and choices but as a Juventino I care about the sake of Juventus first of all and then comes anything else. Pardon me, I'm just a human.
In fairness i dont think that saying Canna, zamb and Thuram are better than him proves your point that he is crap. Yes we will have grygera, and another defender but we will also lose tudor, legro and kovac will be too old. Also when zeb wasn't injured he was better than chiellini and balza and that is why he started games over them under capello.

Did i say that he is as loyal as DP nedved and buffon??? no
but he is as loyal as camo, who often gets applauded on this forum, people forget he didnt want to stay and to me that doesnt matter, hes here now and thats all that counts so to call him disloyal is not fair. Ibra was forced to stay but he threw a tantrum and refused to play so had to be sold, Zebina could have done this too but he had dignity and acted proffesionally about it only for you to slaughter him at a later date, you sohuld take a look at yourself and show the guy some respect, hes given his all for us he does not deserve your abuse

Exactly. He is one of the best defenders we have now and he´s been playing pretty good under Deschamps. About loyalty, I doubt he is loyal, but he may prove it in the summer....



I disagree. You cannot say Balzaretti and Chiellini had better previous couple of seasons than Zebina when Chiellini and Balzaretti joined us last season. Check your facts.
Thank you Mark, it seems there are very few here willing to defend zebina

At the right time hes our best central back, if you like it, or not.And it seems that hes loyal, wherefore stop to degrade him:faq2:
:agree: he is, on form our best CB and if we keep any of our current CBs he should be one we keep
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
Thank you Mark, it seems there are very few here willing to defend zebina
Thanks. Some people here enjoy putting the blame on (make fun of) certain players on un-existing basis. The same thing about Boumsong - he is not world class, we know that, but he joined us in Serie B and is happy to play for us. And I must add (except of the several dreadful mistakes he made) he is not that bad.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
22,870
Zebina is probably our best defender at the moment and that says it all really...

I'm not picking on this player but we definitely need to strengthen
 

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