John ''sell the club'' Elkann (12 Viewers)

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,176
Jj really is that soulless club with the owners having little to no care for the tradition of the club and the people that support it. I can barely bring myself to say 'we', but we're probably one of the worst in this regard, up there with City.

If I had a kid now, I don't even think I'd make them a Jj-tino
This sounds trite and silly but imo it properly started when the club started organising tifos and did them in English.

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The kind of jarring soulless meaningless placeholder drivel that you get on PES for every team. No identity, no feeling. Corporate whitewash.
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The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,567
please elkunt sell the team, your a pussy and your club plays like one, sell sell sell, for the love of the avocato sell the team, to someone who bleeds black and white.
I really don't understand all the voices wanting Elkann to sell Juve. He has invested 1bn in the club last few years to keep us afloat.

I understand you want Juventus to find itself in a situation like Milan and Inter when their new Asian owners made them end up in hands of their creditors?
 

Nomuken

“Year Zero”
Contributor
Dec 14, 2009
5,646
In the sense that he fail to establish a proper staff for the club across the board. (Especially J medical cough cough) lacking identity and ethos in the club, completely dissolved.
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,567
In the sense that he fail to establish a proper staff for the club across the board. (Especially J medical cough cough) lacking identity and ethos in the club, completely dissolved.
Ok, I understand. I don't think it's the mindset though ;).

I believe the priority now is to cure the club's finances as we can't be in red for 200mln each year. Speaking of identity and ethos the times have changed. We are living in tiktok and Instagram era which might be difficult to accept for people over 30yo but it's the reality and the club needs to adapt.

Juve will not focus on old people who barely have time to watch a game per week because they are busy with work and their families.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,516
Ok, I understand. I don't think it's the mindset though ;).

I believe the priority now is to cure the club's finances as we can't be in red for 200mln each year. Speaking of identity and ethos the times have changed. We are living in tiktok and Instagram era which might be difficult to accept for people over 30yo but it's the reality and the club needs to adapt.

Juve will not focus on old people who barely have time to watch a game per week because they are busy with work and their families.
agreed on the remark on the club's finances. now getting the accounts right is surely a priority over squad building

identity though is an other story. look at real, barcelona or bayern, they managed to keep their core identity while pleasing the latest generations. and it starts with the management. which starts with the ownership. both agnelli and elkann made mistakes: agnelli changed the logo, bought ronaldo, transformed our social presence to please the left/woke crowd, while elkann put two loyal corporate people in charge. neither of them helped

i'd call platini and make him president
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,567
agreed on the remark on the club's finances. now getting the accounts right is surely a priority over squad building

identity though is an other story. look at real, barcelona or bayern, they managed to keep their core identity while pleasing the latest generations. and it starts with the management. which starts with the ownership. both agnelli and elkann made mistakes: agnelli changed the logo, bought ronaldo, transformed our social presence to please the left/woke crowd, while elkann put two loyal corporate people in charge. neither of them helped

i'd call platini and make him president
Your points are valid, however, the clubs you mentioned didn't avoid costly mistakes either. They have a bigger margin for errors though. It's because we have been fragile financially after Calciopoli whereas they could develop their position.

I love Platini but I think we should look ahead. I do agree though that the management needs a person with football experience like Bettega and Nedved.
 

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