John ''sell the club'' Elkann (9 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

Is there any particular reason you keep highlighting random figures?

The only argument you have here is "hur dur Exor gib moneys to evry1 not Juventus". Juve is self-sufficient, like it was in the Moggi days. Exor are an investment company, that means they invest.

"EXOR makes long-term investments focused
on global companies in diversified sectors,
mainly in Europe and United States."

What kind of investment is Juventus then? it creates permanent loss for their organization, right? fucking sell it to arabs for all i care, but no, instead they loan us money for "at a rate of interest equal to one month Euribor plus a spread of 2 percentage" so we automatically forced to give them back more money than we took, that's amazing

I don't know how to check proper euribor rate, but 2% out of 50 millions is 1 million, perfect deal

 

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[Mark]

John Elkann is no good I tell ya, no good.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

He talks like he's a journalist. Twitter has ruined you, RUS.

http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2014/09/09/alena-seredova-alessandro-nasi-nuovo-compagno_n_5790374.html
https://www.google.ru/search?q=sere...3.2971j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
they are pair

 

[JuveJay]

What kind of investment is Juventus then?

Not. That wasn't so hard after all.

 

[icemaη]

He talks like he's a journalist. Twitter has ruined you, RUS.

It started with Goal's headline about how 'Exor invested in cricket, now they have to show if they are serious about football' or something along those lines.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

It started with Goal's headline about how 'Exor invested in cricket, now they have to show if they are serious about football' or something along those lines.

Okay, they've bought a cricket club because of the ground around it to build something on that ground, 4 years later they've build NO-FUCKING-THING there, rejected every offer from other companies who wanted invest in that place, instead they've announced their 16 years plan in 2013, but before, in 2010, they've invested ANOTHER 100m in the START FUCKING UP named Almacantar with additional 50m to be invested later https://www.exor.com/home/Media/01_Comunicati-stampa/Archivio/2010/06_CS_19042010.html
you can see here what they own in london 5 years later
http://www.almacantar.com/properties

They've spent, spent and spent money on everything but Juventus

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http://www.football-italia.net/64521/fiat-drop-italy-sponsorship
also this

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Juve / Elkann, to be competitive in the Champions League money does not make a difference
http://www.calcioefinanza.it/2014/0...ions-i-soldi-non-fanno-la-differenza/?lang=en

game over

 

[Vlad]

This fuckin' thread

Rus pls stop.

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"EXOR makes long-term investments focused
on global companies in diversified sectors,
mainly in Europe and United States."

What kind of investment is Juventus then? it creates permanent loss for their organization, right? fucking sell it to arabs for all i care, but no, instead they loan us money for "at a rate of interest equal to one month Euribor plus a spread of 2 percentage" so we automatically forced to give them back more money than we took, that's amazing

I don't know how to check proper euribor rate, but 2% out of 50 millions is 1 million, perfect deal

I can assure you that if we went somewhere else for a loan the interest rate wouldnt be more favorable. We are their affiliate company and as such will always get better terms than we would find on the market.

In the summer of 2011 Exor announced subscription of shares worth more than 100m, which they executed in the fall of that same year. This was direct investment, significant one that pulled us back. They are not going to finance our moves on the market every summer, this is ridiculous even to suggest. They have responsibilites to their shareholders and naturaly will be looking to invest in business ventures that will bring them highest return rate. Juve isnt profitable company, the industry we are in is aggressive and irrational one.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

This fuckin' thread

Rus pls stop.

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I can assure you that if we went somewhere else for a loan the interest rate wouldnt be more favorable. We are their affiliate company and as such will always get better terms than we would find on the market.

In the summer of 2011 Exor announced subscription of shares worth more than 100m, which they executed in the fall of that same year. This was direct investment, significant one that pulled us back. They are not going to finance our moves on the market every summer, this is ridiculous even to suggest. They have responsibilites to their shareholders and naturaly will be looking to invest in business ventures that will bring them highest return rate. Juve isnt profitable company, the industry we are in is aggressive and irrational one.

you are from John's sect too

Do you understand that Juventus is unprofitable business atm? Why it's so hard for all'ya to understand this simple thing......you telling me "THEY INVEST INVEST INVEST" so why the fuck you still own a squad that gives you nothing but unprofitable business?! what it's giving you and shareholders? a loss every year?

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Sell

 

[Osman]

so why the fuck you still own a squad that gives you nothing but unprofitable business?! what it's giving you and shareholders? a loss every year?

Are you truly a Juve fan?

http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2015/july-24-1923--the-agnelli-legacy-begins.php

http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2015/giovanni-agnelli-becomes-president-on-this-day-in-1947.php


http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2013/27-06-1956-umberto-agnelli-becomes-juve-president.php

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

This is never going to come out. It was originally supposed to be released in 2013 or 2014, I believe, and has kept being pushed back more and more

 

[Osman]

Indeed, last I heard they were trying to find investors/distributors, which is, its a documentary about one of the most popular clubs in the biggiest sport.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Are you nuts? Both ELkann's are fake agnelli's, they have nothing in common with Gianni, all of them were born and raised outside of Italy, they don't have the football passion that Gianni, Umberto and Edoardo had, it's a shame but it's a fact and i don't care anymore if Elkann's will sell juventus share to somebody who would like to help juventus to win CL finally, not these greedy lucky boys
@Osman

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Are you nuts? Both ELkann's are fake agnelli's, they have nothing in common with Gianni, all of them were born and raised outside of Italy, they don't have the football passion that Gianni, Umberto and Edoardo had, it's a shame but it's a fact and i don't care anymore if Elkann's will sell juventus share to somebody who would like to help juventus to win CL finally, not these greedy lucky boys
@Osman

Who can they sell it to that would care about Juve more?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Who can they sell it to that would care about Juve more?

I don't care, but i prefer american-italian businessman, Roma's and Bologna's examples shows us that they know what they are doing

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't care, but i prefer american-italian businessman, Roma's and Bologna's examples shows us that they know what they are doing

Are they doing better than us?

 

[Osman]

You are so predictable, almost word for word guessed what you would say

Say what you will about John about wether he is a fan or not, but zero reason to say anything about Lapo. Read several of interviews with him to know he is a huge friggin Juventino. Attends alot of our games and pretty much professes his love for the club in any given situation.

Designs most of our scudetto related items

He's quite the interesting character (mainly his vanity affair interviews)


Most I know about the upcoming Juventus documentary is due to how Lapo been promoting it: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sundance-fiat-heir-lapo-elkann-672428

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I don't care, but i prefer american-italian businessman, Roma's and Bologna's examples shows us that they know what they are doing

So a century of being owned by Agnelli's and winning titles nonstop almost means they dont know what they are doing? Even currently, a year away from a historic 5 in a row scudetto win?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You are so predictable, almost word for word guessed what you would say

Say what you will about John about wether he is a fan or not, but zero reason to say anything about Lapo. Read several of interviews with him to know he is a huge friggin Juventino. Attends alot of our games and pretty much professes his love for the club in any given situation.

Designs most of our scudetto related items

He's quite the interesting character (mainly his vanity affair interviews)


Most I know about the upcoming Juventus documentary is due to how Lapo been promoting it: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sundance-fiat-heir-lapo-elkann-672428

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So a century of being owned by Agnelli's and winning titles nonstop almost means they dont know what they are doing? Even currently, a year away from a historic 5 in a row scudetto win?

Wait a second, YOU REALLY compare John and Lapo to Gianni and Umberto? Jesus christ........Gianni was a god, while these both are total mess, one is busy with F1 and investments, 2nd one is busy with fashion, sunglasses and his image in press, his using Juventus to improve the sales of his shit and to be more popular, nothing more, nothing less, where they both were in 2006? remind me

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Anyway, Exor seems like they're becoming more and more massive, might not be a bad company to be under in the future.

 

[edgardavids2608]

WTF is going on here? This is insane. You just want them to pour money in to something every year? Thats a lot to ask and giving a 2% loan i basically just counting for inflation. Its basically an interest free loan. Another thing is the fact that we are winning. What do you want? Italy is in a tough time right now financially and we are thriving both at home and in europe. Reinvesting in the club for the future and all. I hope the Craziness is a joke