John ''sell the club'' Elkann (32 Viewers)

Scottish

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
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Mar 13, 2011
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Badass J Elkann said:
Actually you're wrong, we are actually in danger of not having a coach, since we can't confirm the upper management for at least another week at best whilst nobody has confirmed Tudor or shown any support for Tudor, especially after missing out on Conte and Gasp, do you really think Tudor will hang around till we find a replacement whilst Tudor will no doubt have offers of his own such as Atalanta?
The timing of all this is awful and a costly one, that's on Elkann, he's the one calling all the shots right now.
Maybe none of this has occurred to you, talk about needing a new brain..."Bruh"
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Your concerns about the managerial situation are valid, but let’s not exaggerate the chaos. Yes, the timing isn’t ideal, and upper management’s delays are frustrating—but claiming we’re "in danger of not having a coach" is hyperbolic. Tudor isn’t some desperate option; if he’s as close as reports suggest, he’s clearly engaged in talks and sees potential in the project.

As for Atalanta or other offers: if Tudor were so eager to jump ship, he’d have done it already. Conte and Gasperini were long shots, and missing out doesn’t mean we’re left with scraps. Elkann’s involvement is a separate issue, but let’s not pretend the sky is falling because negotiations aren’t moving at fan-forum speed.

And spare the condescending "new brain" nonsense—disagreement doesn’t mean ignorance. The situation is messy, but not apocalyptic. Maybe take a breath before declaring doom.

This keeps it sharp but substantive, addressing the points without getting overly petty. Adjust tone as needed!
 

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Badass J Elkann

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
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Feb 12, 2006
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s4tch said:
why would elkann bother with a completely new management who would be getting the axe in half a year
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Because he can't stop the inevitable jinx :D

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Scottish said:
Your concerns about the managerial situation are valid, but let’s not exaggerate the chaos. Yes, the timing isn’t ideal, and upper management’s delays are frustrating—but claiming we’re "in danger of not having a coach" is hyperbolic. Tudor isn’t some desperate option; if he’s as close as reports suggest, he’s clearly engaged in talks and sees potential in the project.

As for Atalanta or other offers: if Tudor were so eager to jump ship, he’d have done it already. Conte and Gasperini were long shots, and missing out doesn’t mean we’re left with scraps. Elkann’s involvement is a separate issue, but let’s not pretend the sky is falling because negotiations aren’t moving at fan-forum speed.

And spare the condescending "new brain" nonsense—disagreement doesn’t mean ignorance. The situation is messy, but not apocalyptic. Maybe take a breath before declaring doom.

This keeps it sharp but substantive, addressing the points without getting overly petty. Adjust tone as needed!
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The club world cup is a matter of weeks away, with the time it'll take for the management to sort itself out we're in danger of going without a coach, especially if Tudor walks (which is a very real possibility, he doesn't owe us anything and he knows the club does not have faith with him going forward) lets not kid ourselves on that one. Tudor would not be jumping ship if he left, infact Juve would be the ones who pushed him out with their lack of trust in him.

Take a look at how long it took for milan to re-organise their management, but they did it in time for the off-season, and yet Elkann has only starting making the changes, this will take time and whilst that is happening, everything is effectively at a stand still, again this goes back to Tudor, do you expect him to wait? I certainly wouldn't

Messy is an understatement, Elkann has created a situation that can already be season ending before it has started.

Please enlighten me if we're not left with scraps now who realistically is left?

I had hoped the club would do things with a plan and conviction, so far it seems like the increasingly common shotgun approach without any real thought put into this.
 
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Scottish

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
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Mar 13, 2011
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Badass J Elkann said:
Because he can't stop the inevitable jinx :D

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The club world cup is a matter of weeks away, with the time it'll take for the management to sort itself out we're in danger of going without a coach, especially if Tudor walks (which is a very real possibility, he doesn't owe us anything and he knows the club does not have faith with him going forward) lets not kid ourselves on that one. Tudor would not be jumping ship if he left, infact Juve would be the ones who pushed him out with their lack of trust in him.

Take a look at how long it took for milan to re-organise their management, but they did it in time for the off-season, and yet Elkann has only starting making the changes, this will take time and whilst that is happening, everything is effectively at a stand still, again this goes back to Tudor, do you expect him to wait? I certainly wouldn't

Messy is an understatement, Elkann has created a situation that can already be season ending before it has started.

Please enlighten me if we're not left with scraps now who realistically is left?

I had hoped the club would do things with a plan and conviction, so far it seems like the increasingly common shotgun approach without any real thought put into this.
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Here’s a structured, assertive response that acknowledges the frustration while pushing back on some of the doomsday framing:

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You’re right that the timing is terrible—the Club World Cup looms, and management’s indecision risks leaving us scrambling. If Tudor walks, it’s absolutely because the club failed to commit to him, not because he’s disloyal. But let’s be clear: calling this "season-ending" is premature. Chaos? Yes. Irreparable? No.

Comparing us to Milan’s restructuring isn’t apples-to-apples. Their situation was different, and their "stability" hasn’t exactly translated to dominance. Elkann’s delays are indefensible, but if Tudor does leave, it’s not like we’re staring at an empty manager pool. Options like Motta (if Bologna’s project stalls), Palladino, or even a caretaker aren’t glamorous, but they’re not "scraps." The real issue is whether the board has a coherent plan—not the lack of available coaches.

That said, your frustration is justified. This should’ve been resolved weeks ago. Elkann’s dithering has turned a transition into a crisis. But catastrophizing won’t help. The club’s bigger problem isn’t missing Tudor—it’s the lack of vision. If they panic and hire another Allegri stopgap, then we’re truly screwed.

So no, I’m not naive about the risks. But if the choice is rushing into a bad project (Conte’s demands, Gasperini’s reluctance) or taking a hit now to reset, I’d argue the latter might save more pain long-term. The real test is what happens after the chaos—not whether we lose a few preseason weeks.

Key Points:
  1. Acknowledges the urgency but pushes back on "season-ending" hyperbole.
  2. Reframes the manager market—Tudor isn’t the only option, even if he’s the best available.
  3. Shifts focus to the board’s incompetence rather than Tudor’s loyalty.
  4. Avoids blind optimism while rejecting total doom.
This keeps the debate grounded in reality without conceding that all is lost. Adjust as needed!
 
Alin

Alin

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    Alin

Aside from appointing a competent sporting director that can accurately identify our priorities and act promptly, or just more wisely(such as avoiding overrated and expensive injury prone players for a starters), i think that nothing will truly change until we completely reshuffle and also replace the whole JMedical from it’s core and fire all of the experts and staff members with decisional power in the physical preparation and injury recovery of the squad, might be just my opinion, but i seriously think there is a rot from within this two very important areas that had crippled us season after season for many years now, and whoever that ‘expert’ was that’s been hired to fix all of this a couple of years ago clearly hasn’t solved much, whereas we always seem to have the lengthiest ACL’s and most repetitive muscle injuries, nevermind the amount of unknown injuries with undefined recovery times.
 
maxi

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    maxi

I dont want Agnelli back either tbh. I wouldn't trust him with the running of this club. After Ronaldo he made several erroneous decisions that contributed to this current mess.

Nothing will change for the better as long as 'El Cunt' is in charge anyway.
 
LordBendtner

LordBendtner

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We’re a bs team. 9 years of straight wins got us blinded with no long term strategies, no replacements to be indoctrinated. We blame Covid, paratici and Ronny. Will it take 9 years until we turn this around? I don’t blame anyone coach not joining us. The miracle isn’t that Tudor joined in, the miracle is that he drove to Turin, the dude wants us with a burning heart which can’t be said of any other coach - not even Conte! Stay with him another year, build the squad, and next year.. I have no fkn idea. BS team
 
Stevie

Stevie

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maxi said:
I dont want Agnelli back either tbh. I wouldn't trust him with the running of this club. After Ronaldo he made several erroneous decisions that contributed to this current mess.

Nothing will change for the better as long as 'El Cunt' is in charge anyway.
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He took away our logo too

Tried his best to make the club trendy and turned it into a family friendly, social media driven cuckfest
 
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