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Carter: Bush brought 'international disgrace'
Former president urges Nevada voters to combat administration

Updated: 8:48 a.m. ET Sept 29, 2006
RENO, Nev. - Former President Carter urged Nevadans on Thursday to elect his Democratic son, Jack, to the Senate to help combat a Bush administration he says has brought "international disgrace" to the United States.

"This country is now more sharply divided that it has ever been," the former president told a crowd of at least 300 at the University of Nevada, Reno.

"I've been deeply embarrassed as a civil rights advocate that we have had the American government stand convicted around the world as one of the greatest abusers of civil rights," said Carter, the 2002 winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

"What has happened the last five years has brought discouragement and sometimes international disgrace to our great country," he said.

Jack Carter is bidding to unseat Republican Sen. John Ensign. Both father and son said Ensign must go because he has voted 96 percent of the time with the Bush administration, which they said has bungled foreign policy while cutting taxes for the rich to the detriment of working Americans.

"What has happened in the last five years has been a radical departure from what all previous presidents have done, including George Bush Sr., and Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower," the former president said, listing the last five Republican presidents.

"Ill-advised invasion"
"We have never before in this nation had a policy of pre-emptive war, which means we go to war against people not because they are a danger to our country, but because our government feels another leader will not comply with the demands that come out of Washington," he said.

As a result, the U.S. mounted "an ill-advised invasion of Iraq based on false premises, false statements and this has been the major international debacle that our country has brought on Americans," he said.

Ensign's campaign manager, Chris Carr, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

Carter, who also planned a speech Thursday night at a fundraiser sponsored by the Washoe County Democratic Party, said when the United States entered Afghanistan after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, the country was "perhaps as united as we have been since the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941."

"We also had the unanimous support of every country on earth. ... Every country pledged to the United States, `We will stand by you and be a partner with you in a unanimous commitment to root out terrorism around the world,'" he said.

"We frittered that away. We gave it up by going into Afghanistan in the beginning and then in an ill-advised departure from the war on terrorism, we decided to invade Iraq and we let Al-Qaida build up its strength and we let Osama Bin Laden escape."

Charges of peace abandonment
Carter also criticized the Bush administration for rejecting or publicly abandoning "every single nuclear arms control agreement ever negotiated since the time of Dwight Eisenhower" and cutting off all attempts to negotiate peacefully with Iran, North Korean and Palestine.

"For the first time in history since Israel became a nation, this administration for the last five years has absolutely refused to have any substantive peace talks between Israel and its troubled neighbors," he said.

"It's a total abandonment of the finer aspects of America that made us great in the past as we brought agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, first of all, secondly with Egypt and also with Jordan," he said.

It was the second consecutive day the former president campaigned for his son, making appearances on Wednesday in the rural communities of Fallon and Elko.

"These are not Democratic strongholds. I'll admit I used Dad a little bit as bait," Jack Carter said, noting that Bush carried 70 percent of the vote in Nevada's rural counties against Democrat John Kerry in 2004.

Jack Carter said his family is pitching in to mount a "retail" campaign to help introduce his ideas, especially to rural voters.

"Our polls show when people meet us, they like us better than the other guy," he said.

"I tell people I'm a Democrat because Democrats are for the working men and women in this country and Republicans are not," he said.

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ReBeL

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I hate seeing the sons succeding their fathers...

This is really an indicator that nothing new will happen...

It shows that nobody gets elected because of his ideas, it's just because he is the son of a former political...
 
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    I was more interested in Carter's comments on the current adminstration.
     

    ReBeL

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    I was more interested in Carter's comments on the current adminstration.
    Well, it was just for elections targets, nothing more nothing less...

    He wants to pave the way to his beloved son by criticizing a well-known-to-be-crazy government...

    In brief: He didn't do anything good in his era (Only his luck was that he could rule during the same period when Sadat ruled Egypt gave him a good reputation for Camp David, while actually, Sadat was going to do what he did even if Elvis was the US president at that time), why should anybody care about him after being kicked out of the presidency??
     

    swag

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    There's a big element of political rhetoric here that you have to cut through. Which is unfortunate. Because I think Carter really believes much of what he's saying. It would have carried more weight if it wasn't in the context of trying to get his son elected.

    Either that or he's been saying these things all along and only in the context of an election is the media paying any attention, which is worse. :confused:
     

    swag

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    The next presidential one is in November 2008. But don't worry. The winner will be decided well before then. ;)
     
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    ReBeL said:
    Well, it was just for elections targets, nothing more nothing less...

    He wants to pave the way to his beloved son by criticizing a well-known-to-be-crazy government...

    In brief: He didn't do anything good in his era (Only his luck was that he could rule during the same period when Sadat ruled Egypt gave him a good reputation for Camp David, while actually, Sadat was going to do what he did even if Elvis was the US president at that time), why should anybody care about him after being kicked out of the presidency??
    fu! sadat, 3abd el nasser was a million times better
     

    HelterSkelter

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    i remember hearing something along the lines of hulk hogan wanting to compete for the presidential elections some 7-8 years back.i dont know if it was just a rumour or wether he actually wanted to do so.
     

    Rami

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    ReBeL said:
    Well, it was just for elections targets, nothing more nothing less...

    He wants to pave the way to his beloved son by criticizing a well-known-to-be-crazy government...

    In brief: He didn't do anything good in his era (Only his luck was that he could rule during the same period when Sadat ruled Egypt gave him a good reputation for Camp David, while actually, Sadat was going to do what he did even if Elvis was the US president at that time), why should anybody care about him after being kicked out of the presidency??
    Foreign policy isn't really a deciding factor for Americans Reb....
     
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    ReBeL said:
    Well, it was just for elections targets, nothing more nothing less...

    He wants to pave the way to his beloved son by criticizing a well-known-to-be-crazy government...

    In brief: He didn't do anything good in his era (Only his luck was that he could rule during the same period when Sadat ruled Egypt gave him a good reputation for Camp David, while actually, Sadat was going to do what he did even if Elvis was the US president at that time), why should anybody care about him after being kicked out of the presidency??
    Perhaps you haven't heard about his many humanitarian efforts. He's probably one of the first US presidents to accomplish more outside of office than during his time as leader. As for his trying to get his son elected, I say go ahead Jimmy because if his son does get elected, then that is one more vote against Bush in Congress, which is what we need.
     

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    salman said:
    i remember hearing something along the lines of hulk hogan wanting to compete for the presidential elections some 7-8 years back.i dont know if it was just a rumour or wether he actually wanted to do so.
    He was probably hoping for a Smackdown election campaign against Jesse Ventura.

    Rami said:
    Foreign policy isn't really a deciding factor for Americans Reb....
    To most American voters, foreign policy is when Beyonce insures her ass through Lloyds of London. :agree: :p
     

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