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Apr 12, 2004
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The best League in Europe? Giancarlo Rinaldi warns that Serie A is now coming under pressure from Germany.

The alarm bells should be ringing out around Serie A this season if recent financial reports are to be believed. Everybody knew that Italian football was a long way behind the English Premiership in terms of monetary clout. But now it appears the German Bundesliga might be about to overtake it too.

At first, this seemed impossible to believe. With the best will in the world, our Teutonic cousins hardly boast a League full of big name teams. Their impact in European competitions in recent times has been far from impressive and – apart from Bayern Munich – they rarely attract global superstars to their ranks.

However, if you scratch the surface, you start to see that maybe Luca Toni, Andrea Barzagli and others spotted something that the rest of us had missed. It may not have the media profile of England, Italy or Spain but the Bundesliga does have one special quality – the fans love it and are prepared to pour into their stadiums to prove it.

Compare the atmosphere at a game in Frankfurt, Bremen or wherever with the wide swathes of empty seats at many Serie A matches and you’ll catch my drift. Average Italian attendances are about half their Bundesliga equivalent. If German sides do well in Europe this year, it is likely their overall League revenue will surpass Italy. They are already streets ahead in terms of profit margins.

The lesson here is that Serie A needs to go back to basics. All the tinkering with kick-off times to suit television, lack of investment in stadia and supporter misbehaviour has taken a heavy toll. Somewhere along the way, everyone lost sight of the importance of the fan who pays his or her money and comes through the turnstiles every weekend.

It’s not too late, however, for an Italian revival. There are signs this season could be a highly competitive one rather than a turn-off stroll for any one side. In addition, some clubs seem to be making a genuine effort to make their grounds more attractive to the ordinary supporter once again.

I have always firmly believed there is nothing better than a Sunday afternoon in a sun-soaked football ground somewhere in Italy. It just takes a bit of time and effort to rekindle everyone’s passion once again.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/blogs/gr10.html
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Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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Germans are so close to their football because they have placed so much effort to sustain their methods of support over the years. A prime example is when the authorities tried to ban standing sections in stadiums and the fans took held their ground and insisted that stadiums have standing sections and i think the same went for ticket prices.

People here in Australia are trying to take the same course of action while dealing with authorities as the game progresses.

A big point the guy brought up is the stadiums as from memory its only us who are building a new stadiums while the others are just happy with their crappy stadiums. Also apparently the fans in Italy are often mistreated by the clubs and the police and especially the ultras.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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very fair point. serie a is going downhill fast. if they dont sort out hooligans, stadiums and corruption, in 5-7 years time it will be behind france.
No way. Serie A's mid to high table (positions 4 to 10) are of a higher level now than 5 years ago.
 
Sep 28, 2002
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but worse than 10 years ago.
and they're only better because fiorentinas, napolis and lazios were brought back to life. if those tycoons would leave, they would back where they were 5 years ago.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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The line talking about Toni and Barzagli is a farce though. Barzagli is a shit defender and the only reason why he's in the Bundesliga is because nobody in Italy wanted him or wanted to pay that much for that troglodyte homunculus of a defender.

The rest is indeed a wake up call for Italy, but in terms of quality the Bundesliga doesn't have matches for Inter, Milan, Roma, Viola and Juve apart from Bayern and Bremen.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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but worse than 10 years ago.
and they're only better because fiorentinas, napolis and lazios were brought back to life. if those tycoons would leave, they would back where they were 5 years ago.
Too many if's.

The point is, that since then the overall quality has steadily improved every season (with our regelation being the only exception). Also of the smaller club's (mentality), smaller teams are not afraid anymore to express their football (against the big sides). Cagliari for example showed some of the league's best football from february last season.

Not just the fiorentina, napoli and lazio either. Sampdoria, Udinese, Palermo too. Even the small sides are very good. If you look at the squads Empoli and Parma had last season, you'd think it's ununderstandable they couldn't survive. But such is the quality, the rest was even better.


Oh and Bundesliga close to Serie A :howler:
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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No disrespect towards the Bundesliga but packed stadiums doesn't mean a damn thing nowadays. One of the main reasons why the EPL is what it is today is because of TV coverage. TV brings in more money than jersey sales and ticket sales in most cases.

If the argument about packed stadiums is used then how come leagues in south america and mexico aren't on top of serie a? those matches are over capacitated and with the logic of the article would shoot them to rival the EPL. Complete bull shit.
 
Sep 28, 2002
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the thing is, bundesliga model themselves on epl. that should attract money. and we all saw what money can do. pre 1999 english football was miles behind serie a. now it's miles ahead. in a disgusting way, i might add, but life is life
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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#20
Because 80% of you did miss the key sentence of the article i did make it bold for you...

The alarm bells should be ringing out around Serie A this season if recent financial reports are to be believed. Everybody knew that Italian football was a long way behind the English Premiership in terms of monetary clout. But now it appears the German Bundesliga might be about to overtake it too.
the author just claims that it is possible that the bundesliga will overtake the serie a in terms of financial income and power ... no one wrote that they had the better teams or better players ... it is just about the MONEY !
 

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