It's a Nice Day for a Tuz Wedding (6 Viewers)

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,505
Damn we got so lucky with Katie and Salvo missing that deadline. I was sure that TWW was G but I pressured him to jail me so I wouldn't get whacked that night. I was pretty sure Fred was a G at that point and he confirmed it when he agreed with me that TWW was the recruit but tried to convince me not to lynch him.

Salvo I didn't figure out until late last night.
Why? I assumed TWW fabricated those claims of yours and figured its another one of million of reasons Cs skipped to pick on how how TWW was acting like the recruited (only Gs really mentionned how he is the recruited lol), or pressure him in any way on that. Because why would you want to be jailed? You can protect yourself, or someone else randomly, because it was obvious it was too vital for them to get the right whack, for them to risk trying to whack you. That uncertainty is key factor in a win or loss, especially last days. You simply not gotten yourself jailed, stay outside of it, influence others, and forced TWW to jail either sabet, or a G you suspect.

In general, you and Sab, and the very end (was sooo confused at the beginning lol) Treq were thinking in the right paths, but rarely did you act on those thoughts, as in argue, persuade Cs or pressure and put Gs on the spot. Take initiative and rally, lack of that is the reason they were having a landslide win until last night.


Lowlife as newbie of ze game :tup: He knows fuck all of most of the things he was doing, but he was active and making others react to him at every turn, useful to have a loose cannon that makes peeps look around and go wth hehe, Melo was like that in early games too.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Another thing that needs to be added to the official rules.
It's there actually :)

If you read the powers of every special role, you will see that only for the jailer it's mentioned that he can't jail the same person twice in straight days.

The rules though need some mega editing. I will do that soon and ask the mod to paste the edit there.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Another thing that needs to be added to the official rules.
It's there actually :)

If you read the powers of every special role, you will see that only for the jailer it's mentioned that he can't jail the same person twice in straight days.

The rules though need some mega editing. I will do that soon and ask the mod to paste the edit there.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,505
It's there actually :)

If you read the powers of every special role, you will see that only for the jailer it's mentioned that he can't jail the same person twice in straight days.

The rules though need some mega editing. I will do that soon and ask the mod to paste the edit there.
What you need to edit it in the most is that DETECTIVE DOES NOT get back the result of an investigation as soon as he asks, nor does he gun blaze in the middle of the day, but ONLY after the lynching and overall deadline. I have no idea why its been inisted on that way when it ruins partly the purpose of the night phase, but deffo need to play that as it should be. Unnecessary advantage to the D to it the way its done currently.
 

X Æ A-12

Senior Member
Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
87,989
Why? I assumed TWW fabricated those claims of yours and figured its another one of million of reasons Cs skipped to pick on how how TWW was acting like the recruited (only Gs really mentionned how he is the recruited lol), or pressure him in any way on that. Because why would you want to be jailed? You can protect yourself, or someone else randomly, because it was obvious it was too vital for them to get the right whack, for them to risk trying to whack you. That uncertainty is key factor in a win or loss, especially last days. You simply not gotten yourself jailed, stay outside of it, influence others, and forced TWW to jail either sabet, or a G you suspect.

In general, you and Sab, and the very end (was sooo confused at the beginning lol) Treq were thinking in the right paths, but rarely did you act on those thoughts, as in argue, persuade Cs or pressure and put Gs on the spot. Take initiative and rally, lack of that is the reason they were having a landslide win until last night.


Lowlife as newbie of ze game :tup: He knows fuck all of most of the things he was doing, but he was active and making others react to him at every turn, useful to have a loose cannon that makes peeps look around and go wth hehe, Melo was like that in early games too.
I figured the Gs knew I couldn't protect myself two nights in a row so I wanted to judge TWW's reaction to the question. If I could confirm TWW was in fact the recruit it meant he and Katie both voted against Alen (who was a known G) which confirmed my suspicion that the Alen-Fred vote was fake.

The problem was I had nobody I could trust. With Katie and Lowlife backing the G vote I couldn't tell whether or not they were actually G's or misguided Cs. It was brilliant cover. Once I got KatieDi as the jailer it was an easy win though.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,505
I get the latter parts, but I dont think the Gs knew at all you wouldnt protect yourself two nights in a row, the fact they cant know, and the D being all already dead would make them assume you would protect yourself, would made it better if you didnt jail yourself, but was out and making them second guess who to whack. Hard to trust I agree, but prolly better to make em sweat and choose to protect likes of Gabriel or Sab (Treq was another obvious C, but hardly one they would try to whack)..
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
What about my suggestion?
Not good, imo.

You can investigate the lawyer, tell him about it and you will be sure that the Lawyer can't be recruited. Now it favors the civilians.
That rule is a good one as it is.

In this game it turned out bad for the Cs only because the D was unlucky to investigate the special roles. But that happens once in 50 games. Normally the Gs aren't in position to give the names of the D, BG and lawyer/jailer to the narrator.
 

X Æ A-12

Senior Member
Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
87,989
I get the latter parts, but I dont think the Gs knew at all you wouldnt protect yourself two nights in a row, the fact they cant know
Well I didn't know that was wrong, I assumed the Gs were playing with the same idea of the rules as myself. Fred confirmed above that if the Gs had known that was the rule this game they would have tried to whack me.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Well I didn't know that was wrong, I assumed the Gs were playing with the same idea of the rules as myself. Fred confirmed above that if the Gs had known that was the rule this game they would have tried to whack me.
Absolutely.

That way we were gonna be sure that you're gonna protect Sheik on day 2 and we weren't gonna take a risk to whack him. We were gonna whack you.
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
Not good, imo.

You can investigate the lawyer, tell him about it and you will be sure that the Lawyer can't be recruited. Now it favors the civilians.
That rule is a good one as it is.

In this game it turned out bad for the Cs only because the D was unlucky to investigate the special roles. But that happens once in 50 games. Normally the Gs aren't in position to give the names of the D, BG and lawyer/jailer to the narrator.
Fine. Look at it this way: since the D and BG can't be recruited, the G's cannot name either of them as a potential recruit when they know those 2 roles.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
Damn we got so lucky with Katie and Salvo missing that deadline. I was sure that TWW was G but I pressured him to jail me so I wouldn't get whacked that night. I was pretty sure Fred was a G at that point and he confirmed it when he agreed with me that TWW was the recruit but tried to convince me not to lynch him.

Salvo I didn't figure out until late last night.
Not only that, the coin toss could have easily went the other way and I would have been lynched instead of TWW.

If that had happened, the Gs would have won the game for sure.
 

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