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'Top players won’t come to Italy’
By Football Italia staff

Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani has admitted that Italian football has lost the ability to sign ready-made great players.

Speaking after selling Thiago Silva and Zlatan Ibrahimovic to Paris Saint-Germain, he underlined that Italian clubs don’t have what is needed to attract the world’s best.

“I agree with Mino Raiola, the agent of Ibrahimovic, who says that top players are no longer coming to Italy,” the official conceded.

With Ibra gone, Galliani is now looking for a new forward and there were rumours of a possible bid for Fiorentina’s Stevan Jovetic.

“I had lunch with Fiorentina sporting director Daniele Prade,” Galliani noted. “We are old friends, but we didn’t speak about Jovetic.”

The Viola have insisted that any club interested in the Montenegrin international will have to pay €30m. Juventus are keen, but not at that price.

It's amazing how sorry he feels for himself. If you had money they players would come, your own fault you have a shit economic model for your club!
 

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well he's right, see the wages they are getting in Spain and England, no-one is going to pay that kind of money in Italy, not even us.
True. I just don't like how he pretends to be a victim here. Lets look at the facts. He has been the guy running one of the top clubs in the world for more than 20 years. During that time his club has gone from being one of the strongest in the world to being the mess it is now. During these 20 years he has had plenty of time to diversify his club's income, commercial/match day etc. He was the president of the league for years and yet had no policy for fixing the cracks that started to appear. His boss was the most powerful man in Italy for many years and yet he whined and whined about necessary stadium legislation not being passed. HOW THE HELL WAS IT NOT PASSED YEARS AGO?

Basically he had a lot of time and resources to do something but he didn't and now he feels sorry for himself.
 

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Galliani just trying to bring us down to their level.

Clearly we are restricted financially in comparison to billionaire sugar daddy clubs, but we still have considerable money and draw right now.
 
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True. I just don't like how he pretends to be a victim here. Lets look at the facts. He has been the guy running one of the top clubs in the world for more than 20 years. During that time his club has gone from being one of the strongest in the world to being the mess it is now. During these 20 years he has had plenty of time to diversify his club's income, commercial/match day etc. He was the president of the league for years and yet had no policy for fixing the cracks that started to appear. His boss was the most powerful man in Italy for many years and yet he whined and whined about necessary stadium legislation not being passed. HOW THE HELL WAS IT NOT PASSED YEARS AGO?

Basically he had a lot of time and resources to do something but he didn't and now he feels sorry for himself.
Completely agreed.
 

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Galliani just trying to bring us down to their level.

Clearly we are restricted financially in comparison to billionaire sugar daddy clubs, but we still have considerable money and draw right now.
This. He shouldn't lump us in with the mess that Milan and Inter find themselves in at the moment. He, Berlusconi and MorRatface only have themselves to blame for their clubs current predicament.

Poor Galliani :cry:

 

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That's the Italian mentality, this is shit so everything is going to be shit and you are going down with us.

Fuck Milan and Inter, we are operating a level above them.
 

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Secco expected Ibrahimovic exit
By Football Italia staff


Former Juventus sporting director Alessio Secco is unsurprised by Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s decision to leave Milan for Paris Saint-Germain.

The Swede completed his switch to the French capital on Wednesday, the latest in a long line of high profile transfers following spells at Ajax, Juventus, Inter and Barcelona.

“History shows us that he leaves all the big clubs,” the current Modena official told Sport Italia. “He’s evidently not a player who places the emotional issue at the top of his list of priorities.”

Secco knows the forward well given their time together in Turin, a spell which ended with his sale following Calciopoli demotion.

“We obviously tried to keep him at Juventus,” Secco continued. “But then came the year in Serie B.

“Knowing the character of Ibra, knowing that the following year his contract would expire, even knowing what he had in mind for his renegotiation, we were conscious of not being able at that precise moment in history to go along with him.

“As a result, we decided to sell him to the only club that officially made an offer for his services – and that side was Inter.”
 

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So when was the last time a top player came to Italy? Ibrahimovic? He was right and top clubs in Italy can't chase top players at this point, maybe just the ones inside of Italy and that's mainly because players want to stay there. I have no idea why are people upset with this statement.
 

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So when was the last time a top player came to Italy? Ibrahimovic? He was right and top clubs in Italy can't chase top players at this point, maybe just the ones inside of Italy and that's mainly because players want to stay there. I have no idea why are people upset with this statement.
Would you class RVP as a top player?

Depends what he means by top players. Are Italian clubs going to go out and spend €40m+ on a player with €8m wages? No.

If a player is around for €25m and €6m, different story, for Juventus. It all depends on certain conditions, like who else is interested. Juventus could sign a player like this every season. Whether Marotta and the directors choose to is another story.

Galliani knows that Milan cannot realistically even afford players in this tier with the current finances, they are struggling to justify this even after saving €100m+. So he lumps us in with their situation, creating a negative picture of the league to save face and stifle our attractiveness at the same time.
 

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Would you class RVP as a top player?

Depends what he means by top players. Are Italian clubs going to go out and spend €40m+ on a player with €8m wages? No.

If a player is around for €25m and €6m, different story, for Juventus. It all depends on certain conditions, like who else is interested. Juventus could sign a player like this every season. Whether Marotta and the directors choose to is another story.

Galliani knows that Milan cannot realistically even afford players in this tier with the current finances, they are struggling to justify this even after saving €100m+. So he lumps us in with their situation, creating a negative picture of the league to save face and stifle our attractiveness at the same time.
Yes, I would. But then again, Italian clubs are most likely to end up with those who are injury prone and only with the ones who are in their late 20s, hardly any other big club is after them. Not many interest was show for Ibra when he was about to leave Spain. RVP is an option only if City prefers some other player in this case. For example, I'm not gonna be surprised if Milan buys C.Ronaldo, but he will be 30yo probably and then are going to be the only ones that will offer him so much money, after that he'll sign for some Arab or Chinese club.

If we're talking about a young top player that's worth that much, then Italian clubs have the least chance to end up with him. Recent years did show that top players won't come to Italy and top talents are only leaving Serie A. So bottom line is that we didn't see any top player coming to Italy for a while now.
 

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Well yes, there are always certain conditions. The very best cost a lot of money, so it's likely they will go to the team with the most. But you can take advantage of market conditions (Milan with Ibra, RVP's contract, generally players who want out).

Italian teams who are successful, in the CL and keeping their heads above water have signed 'top players' in the last few years; Ibrahimovic, Sneijder, Eto'o, Ronaldinho. But now see the financial situation those clubs are in.
 

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Well yes, there are always certain conditions. The very best cost a lot of money, so it's likely they will go to the team with the most. But you can take advantage of market conditions (Milan with Ibra, RVP's contract, generally players who want out).

Italian teams who are successful, in the CL and keeping their heads above water have signed 'top players' in the last few years; Ibrahimovic, Sneijder, Eto'o, Ronaldinho. But now see the financial situation those clubs are in.
Eto'o was in swap deal basically while Ronaldinho was unneeded, in early 30s and wanted only by Milan which is exactly my point. Like I said, in majority of cases when top players comes to Italy there's a reason behind it (age, injuries). But even that happens really once in a blue moon. I see nothing wrong with that statement because it's true. Big players only go aboard eventually from Italy (Sanchez, Silva etc.).
 

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You could argue that without these super spending clubs (City, PSG, Chelsea) Italy would still be attracting talent. You don't see Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool having an easy time getting top players (30 million pounds+). These other clubs have rigged the game, City/PSG with oil money and Real Madrid with money from German taxpayers.
 

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I wouldn't say Sanchez was or is a big player, yet, but we are essentially saying the same thing.

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You could argue that without these super spending clubs (City, PSG, Chelsea) Italy would still be attracting talent. You don't see Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool having an easy time getting top players (30 million pounds+). These other clubs have rigged the game, City/PSG with oil money and Real Madrid with money from German taxpayers.
Clearly, without Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour money the PL would be a different proposition, they finance the leagues, players, tv deals. It has a knock on effect.
 

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I wouldn't say Sanchez was or is a big player, yet, but we are essentially saying the same thing.

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Clearly, without Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour money the PL would be a different proposition, they finance the leagues, players, tv deals. It has a knock on effect.
Absolutely, makes me wonder if some oil fund bought Milan, Inter or Lazio the league would benefit as a whole. If I was looking to buy a team I would buy an Italian one because access to CL is a lot less hassle than in the PL.
 

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Essentially it would be like putting Abramovich at Sampdoria and Mansour at Napoli. The underlying infrastructural problems would remain, but they'd be glossed over and the league would be awash with more money.
 

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As long as Serie A is dominated by the tv market I doubt it will matter what they do to the stadiums. Just owning the stadiums would be a huge step forward.
 
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