Leo looks more and more likely to leave Inter and get the GM job at PSG ... whoever his replacement at Inter might be, there is no way he would be a more clueless coach than Leo 
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Leo looks more and more likely to leave Inter and get the GM job at PSG ... whoever his replacement at Inter might be, there is no way he would be a more clueless coach than Leo
I think someone here is biased when criticizing Leonardo.
Despite all that he still did better than the other Italians in Europe, won the Coppa and won more points than any other coach in serie A (counting only the rounds he coached Inter).
I think someone here is biased when criticizing Leonardo.
I think someone here is biased when criticizing Leonardo.
His teams are bound to do well vs smaller teams in Serie A, hence the points Inter won, but against well organized teams - italian or not - Leo's team looks clueless, especially in defense and are bound to get not just beaten but embarrassed and after that their self esteem is shot and he doesn't know how to make them pick themselves up mentally.
I don't hold any animosity towards him for joining Inter and do not sustain Gattuso's antics ... I am just happy to see Inter being held back by Leo coaching them
not at all ... after watching him for 1 year coach Milan
His teams are bound to do well vs smaller teams in Serie A, hence the points Inter won, but against well organized teams - italian or not - Leo's team looks clueless, especially in defense and are bound to get not just beaten but embarrassed and after that their self esteem is shot and he doesn't know how to make them pick themselves up mentally.
I don't hold any animosity towards him for joining Inter and do not sustain Gattuso's antics ... I am just happy to see Inter being held back by Leo coaching them
His teams are bound to do well vs smaller teams in Serie A, hence the points Inter won, but against well organized teams - italian or not - Leo's team looks clueless, especially in defense and are bound to get not just beaten but embarrassed and after that their self esteem is shot and he doesn't know how to make them pick themselves up mentally.
I don't hold any animosity towards him for joining Inter and do not sustain Gattuso's antics ... I am just happy to see Inter being held back by Leo coaching them
Inter have been tops of Italian football for a while now so that's nothing new. Leonardo has been consistent against the small teams but Inter have choked in big games under him, they played poorly and deservedly lost against Juve, Milan, Schalke. They should have lost to Palermo in the Coppa final but the quality of a few players won the game.
would love to see this but can't believe even Moratti would be that clueless ... he got Leo because he had a very high esteem of him from their interaction while Leo was in Milan's management and I suppose thought Leo did a great job as a coach at Milan too and would have done even better at Inter considering the players they had.
What Moratti didn't listen to was Berlusconi's opinion of Leo as a coach
What Moratti didn't listen to was Berlusconi's opinion of Leo as a coach
That could cost you the scudetto next year, right? As it could have cost you last year if he was there from the beginning. Anyway, doing good against the big teams in serie A means a little many times. Just check these standings of the results the top 7 teams in serie A achieved when they played each other:
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01. Juventus 6-3-3 (16:11) 21 pts
02. Milan 5-5-2 (16:9), 20 pts
03. Roma 6-2-4 (14:14) 20 pts
04. Udinese 5-2-5 (21:22) 17 pts
05. Napoli 4-2-6 (18:21) 14 pts
06. Inter 4-2-6 (15:19) 14 pts
07. Lazio 3-2-7 (15:19) 11 pts
Milan
- Udinese 4:4, 0:0
- Roma 0:0, 0:1
- Inter 3:0, 1:0
- Juventus 1:2, 1:0
- Napoli 2:1, 3:0
- Lazio 1:1, 0:0
Udinese
- Milan 4:4, 0:0
- Lazio 2:1, 2:3
- Napoli 2:1, 3:1
- Roma 1:2, 1:2
- Juve 0:4, 2:1
- Inter 1:2, 3:1
Lazio
- Udinese 3:2, 1:2
- Juventus 0:1, 1:2
- Inter 3:1, 1:2
- Napoli 2:0, 3:4
- Roma 0:2, 0:2
- Milan 1:1, 0:0
Juve
- Napoli 0:3, 2:2
- Lazio 2:1, 1:0
- Roma 1:1, 2:0
- Milan 2:1, 0:1
- Inter 0:0, 1:0
- Udinese 4:0, 1:2
Napoli
- Juventus 3:0, 2:2
- Inter 1:3, 1:1
- Udinese 1:2, 1:3
- Lazio 0:2, 4:3
- Milan 1:2, 0:3
- Roma 2:0, 2:0
Inter
- Napoli 3:1, 1:1
- Lazio 1:3, 2:1
- Milan 0:1, 0:3
- Juventus 0:0, 0:1
- Roma 0:1, 5:3
- Udinese 2:1, 1:3
Roma
- Milan 1:0, 0:0
- Udinese 2:1, 2:1
- Juventus 1:1, 0:2
- Lazio 2:0, 2:0
- Napoli 0:2, 0:2
- Inter 1:0, 3:5
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The actual standings though will give you a whole different picture. So, since this proves how important the results against the smaller teams are, one can only wonder if Milan would have won the scudetto had Leonardo been at Inter's helm from the beginning.
Of course, the 6 pts difference Milan has on Inter against the top 7 teams (which are actually the h2h matches that make the difference) would tell that it's against the big teams that Milan won the scudetto and it's true, but take the Benitez factor in and you get a better picture what would have happened if Leo was there since August.
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01. Juventus 6-3-3 (16:11) 21 pts
02. Milan 5-5-2 (16:9), 20 pts
03. Roma 6-2-4 (14:14) 20 pts
04. Udinese 5-2-5 (21:22) 17 pts
05. Napoli 4-2-6 (18:21) 14 pts
06. Inter 4-2-6 (15:19) 14 pts
07. Lazio 3-2-7 (15:19) 11 pts
Milan
- Udinese 4:4, 0:0
- Roma 0:0, 0:1
- Inter 3:0, 1:0
- Juventus 1:2, 1:0
- Napoli 2:1, 3:0
- Lazio 1:1, 0:0
Udinese
- Milan 4:4, 0:0
- Lazio 2:1, 2:3
- Napoli 2:1, 3:1
- Roma 1:2, 1:2
- Juve 0:4, 2:1
- Inter 1:2, 3:1
Lazio
- Udinese 3:2, 1:2
- Juventus 0:1, 1:2
- Inter 3:1, 1:2
- Napoli 2:0, 3:4
- Roma 0:2, 0:2
- Milan 1:1, 0:0
Juve
- Napoli 0:3, 2:2
- Lazio 2:1, 1:0
- Roma 1:1, 2:0
- Milan 2:1, 0:1
- Inter 0:0, 1:0
- Udinese 4:0, 1:2
Napoli
- Juventus 3:0, 2:2
- Inter 1:3, 1:1
- Udinese 1:2, 1:3
- Lazio 0:2, 4:3
- Milan 1:2, 0:3
- Roma 2:0, 2:0
Inter
- Napoli 3:1, 1:1
- Lazio 1:3, 2:1
- Milan 0:1, 0:3
- Juventus 0:0, 0:1
- Roma 0:1, 5:3
- Udinese 2:1, 1:3
Roma
- Milan 1:0, 0:0
- Udinese 2:1, 2:1
- Juventus 1:1, 0:2
- Lazio 2:0, 2:0
- Napoli 0:2, 0:2
- Inter 1:0, 3:5
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The actual standings though will give you a whole different picture. So, since this proves how important the results against the smaller teams are, one can only wonder if Milan would have won the scudetto had Leonardo been at Inter's helm from the beginning.
Of course, the 6 pts difference Milan has on Inter against the top 7 teams (which are actually the h2h matches that make the difference) would tell that it's against the big teams that Milan won the scudetto and it's true, but take the Benitez factor in and you get a better picture what would have happened if Leo was there since August.
I don't disagree with the above - doing well against the small teams is indeed very important for winning the title - but that doesn't mean you can be cavalier with the points from games vs the better teams either ... in the end of the day, it is consistency that wins you the title.
Leo however has shown a rather scary inability of picking his team up after they had suffered a yet another defeat to a good team and that leads to a period after such big games where his team loses a lot of points even vs smaller teams:
Last season when he was at Milan, they had come to within 2-3 pts from Inter and looked likely to overtake Inter and win the scudetto. What happened instead was Inter wooped Milan's but in the derby and after that Milan not only failed to recover but even lost 2nd spot to Roma.
This year, the same thing happened - Inter came to within 2 pts of Milan before the derby, Leo and Inter got bitch-slapped in that game and after that Milan had more issues with Napoli than Inter for the scudetto.
I am not claiming that being able to beat the big teams but losing pts to smaller teams will win you the title, but the opposite is not true either - winning the title requires consistency thruout ... something, actually even Milan lacked in the first half of the season as Allegri was trying to figure out his team, otherwise they'd have closed the race for the scudetto with 6-7 games left to be played.
Also, under Allegri Milan had the best defense of Serie A, a defense which featured the same key players that Leo had while at Milan - Milan during the second half of the season this year received 7 goals in 19 games, which was a testament of Allegri having figured out his team (not just defense but midfield too as it was key in strengthening the defense). Leo's Milan couldn't stop leaking goals and the same goes for Inter under Leo - strong defense is the sign of equilibrium of the team as a whole and equilibrium is what wins you titles ... Leo's teams lack this.
You can also look at La Liga where Real scored more goals than Barca but they also leaked a lot more than the Catalans.
All in all, you can't just look at partial stats and expect to get the whole picture
Leo however has shown a rather scary inability of picking his team up after they had suffered a yet another defeat to a good team and that leads to a period after such big games where his team loses a lot of points even vs smaller teams:
Last season when he was at Milan, they had come to within 2-3 pts from Inter and looked likely to overtake Inter and win the scudetto. What happened instead was Inter wooped Milan's but in the derby and after that Milan not only failed to recover but even lost 2nd spot to Roma.
This year, the same thing happened - Inter came to within 2 pts of Milan before the derby, Leo and Inter got bitch-slapped in that game and after that Milan had more issues with Napoli than Inter for the scudetto.
I am not claiming that being able to beat the big teams but losing pts to smaller teams will win you the title, but the opposite is not true either - winning the title requires consistency thruout ... something, actually even Milan lacked in the first half of the season as Allegri was trying to figure out his team, otherwise they'd have closed the race for the scudetto with 6-7 games left to be played.
Also, under Allegri Milan had the best defense of Serie A, a defense which featured the same key players that Leo had while at Milan - Milan during the second half of the season this year received 7 goals in 19 games, which was a testament of Allegri having figured out his team (not just defense but midfield too as it was key in strengthening the defense). Leo's Milan couldn't stop leaking goals and the same goes for Inter under Leo - strong defense is the sign of equilibrium of the team as a whole and equilibrium is what wins you titles ... Leo's teams lack this.
You can also look at La Liga where Real scored more goals than Barca but they also leaked a lot more than the Catalans.
All in all, you can't just look at partial stats and expect to get the whole picture
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Despite all that he still did better than the other Italians in Europe, won the Coppa and won more points than any other coach in serie A (counting only the rounds he coached Inter).
I think someone here is biased when criticizing Leonardo.
I think someone here is biased when criticizing Leonardo.
Inter has had a joke of a defense/total lack of organised defensive pressuring/ballwinning effort. Its no coincidence the Schalke game happend under his reign. They went from super robotic and organised defensive wall that ate up Barca, to total static clowns that could do fuck all to defend against barely average teams.
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