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yes he is a zingaro thats for sure...
he isn't that bad... but really for me he is far from impressiv... ok 17 goals are not bad even though 8 from pk (atleast u have to score from there)
but zlatan has a big problem and that is his charakter... he is way to selfish and thinks he is the greatest... yes he scored 17 goals but he missed about 1000 golden oppertunities... he wants to get past every single player and won't pass for shit.... even a friend of mine who is interisti (i'm sorry for that) admits that he hates him for his egoism
he isn't that bad... but really for me he is far from impressiv... ok 17 goals are not bad even though 8 from pk (atleast u have to score from there)
but zlatan has a big problem and that is his charakter... he is way to selfish and thinks he is the greatest... yes he scored 17 goals but he missed about 1000 golden oppertunities... he wants to get past every single player and won't pass for shit.... even a friend of mine who is interisti (i'm sorry for that
) admits that he hates him for his egoism
He is a very good attacker, and a medicore/bad goalscorer.
He is fast and has great technique for his height.He moves superbly in the pitch, and he surely can create something for his teammates.But when it comes to scoring he can miss unbelivable chances, something that is unacceptable for world-class attackers.
Last year he scored 17 goals, 8 of them were penalties.Because I speak about his scoring ability and not his penalty-taking ability, I think that 9 goals in a league of 38 games is far away from an impresive record.
Add to this that he plays in a team with many creative players to assist him, opposing to our strikers who have less help from behind.
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And I forgot to add that he is a big game choker
I agree with most of your post. He's below average when it comes to taking chances. He doesn't have the goalscorer instinct. But he makes a great SS, partnered with a player who knows how to score.
I disagree about the second part of your post, though. He scored only 9 goals that weren't penalties, and i'd count two more because once he was denied from scoring a goal after a Roma player (Giuly, i think) stopped the ball at the goal line with his hand and once he was clear on goal, in front of an empty net, and he was fouled from behind.
It doesn't matter much though. 11 goals still isn't too much, even if he missed around 10-15 matches last season. He also scored 5 goals in 7 matches in CL, only one from PK.
What i disagree is the part about the support he was getting in Inter. What creative players did Inter have last year, apart from Luis Figo, who wasn't a standard player anyway ? Our attackers had Camoranesi and Nedved but Inter had Zanetti, Stankovic, Vieira, Cambiasso, Pele, Dacourt and Figo listed as midfielders, and Jimenez in the second part, but he was a bench player most of the time. Even Chivu spent a big part of the season playing in midfield.
I don't think that Inter strikers had more support from behind than our strikers.
This year it might be different with Mancini and Quaresma, but last year Inter's midfield was a combative one, without any creativity whatsoever.
I disagree about the second part of your post, though. He scored only 9 goals that weren't penalties, and i'd count two more because once he was denied from scoring a goal after a Roma player (Giuly, i think) stopped the ball at the goal line with his hand and once he was clear on goal, in front of an empty net, and he was fouled from behind.
It doesn't matter much though. 11 goals still isn't too much, even if he missed around 10-15 matches last season. He also scored 5 goals in 7 matches in CL, only one from PK.
What i disagree is the part about the support he was getting in Inter. What creative players did Inter have last year, apart from Luis Figo, who wasn't a standard player anyway ? Our attackers had Camoranesi and Nedved but Inter had Zanetti, Stankovic, Vieira, Cambiasso, Pele, Dacourt and Figo listed as midfielders, and Jimenez in the second part, but he was a bench player most of the time. Even Chivu spent a big part of the season playing in midfield.
I don't think that Inter strikers had more support from behind than our strikers.
This year it might be different with Mancini and Quaresma, but last year Inter's midfield was a combative one, without any creativity whatsoever.
Alright. I promised myself before not to talk about the camelface here again, but with you I think it's different.
Putting aside all my hate towards him, nobody can ignore that he's talented, thats out of the question. But is he one of the best as ppl claim? Not really. I'll tell you why.
To me to be considered one of the best you have to be almost a complete player... Zlatan isn't a finisher therefore you expect his role on the field to be crucial....
Defensively on the pitch he doesn't help nor comes back to the midfield to create a counter attack. Players at his age, should be more like Rooney, have his style, run a lot help midfielders and defenders when needed. He's Zero there.
Offensively... His first Juve season with us wasn't special at all like people claim to be... If we compare the playing time that he played (I think we already have the stats here) we'll figure out that he had a decent season if not a normal one but nothing to a superb season.... His 2nd season, well I don't need to talk about it much.
At Inter.... yes last year he was crucial, was probably his best season since he arrived to italy, apart from the goals that are mostly from PK's, I like his contribution giving assists changing his style a bit, but still not enough.
He can't cross properly... His passing isn't bad... tech is pretty damn good, ball control is superb, duel on air also good, dribbling still needs a lot , finishing horrible, freekicks terrible. and so on
Like I said, he's talented, he's good, but not one of the best like people claim.... he needs a lot.
I wanted to talk about more specific details concerning his style and so on, but Eftar is getting close and I'm about to leave, I'll hit you back when I get back.
Putting aside all my hate towards him, nobody can ignore that he's talented, thats out of the question. But is he one of the best as ppl claim? Not really. I'll tell you why.
To me to be considered one of the best you have to be almost a complete player... Zlatan isn't a finisher therefore you expect his role on the field to be crucial....
Defensively on the pitch he doesn't help nor comes back to the midfield to create a counter attack. Players at his age, should be more like Rooney, have his style, run a lot help midfielders and defenders when needed. He's Zero there.
Offensively... His first Juve season with us wasn't special at all like people claim to be... If we compare the playing time that he played (I think we already have the stats here) we'll figure out that he had a decent season if not a normal one but nothing to a superb season.... His 2nd season, well I don't need to talk about it much.
At Inter.... yes last year he was crucial, was probably his best season since he arrived to italy, apart from the goals that are mostly from PK's, I like his contribution giving assists changing his style a bit, but still not enough.
He can't cross properly... His passing isn't bad... tech is pretty damn good, ball control is superb, duel on air also good, dribbling still needs a lot , finishing horrible, freekicks terrible. and so on
Like I said, he's talented, he's good, but not one of the best like people claim.... he needs a lot.
I wanted to talk about more specific details concerning his style and so on, but Eftar is getting close and I'm about to leave, I'll hit you back when I get back.
In assistance from behind I don't count only the AMs but the full-backs too.Maicon and Maxwell could create much for the attackers.But except for them Figo,Stank and Jimenez(who had some great games) is not bad.On the other hand, we had only 2 players to rely.Camo and Nedved both with ineffectual help from our full backs.
that is what i said he just missed to many golden opportunities... and as u said he really is a big game choker... can't remember him scoring in a really crucial or big game. but he really remind me of amauri... they have both great technique and good skills and can easy outmuscle any defender but than again they r both way to egoistic on the field... ok every striker needs a bit of egoism but surley they got both too much of it... but if u ask me zlatan is 10time the player amauri is...
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