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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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i will show you the same level of respect for YOUR beliefs as you show others for THEIR beliefs

seriously, for such a bright young man there is a serious degree of troglodyte to your mental capacity
That's where we disagree. I don't think one should respect moronic beliefs because they are beliefs. You have to say it like it is. It's fucking retarded. They are beliefs from a desert society 1400 years back. They have no place whatsoever in our modern western society. It's a disgrace and one of the biggest problems we face today.

All of this of course does not mean that a modernised Islam could not be beneficial. On the contrary, I think it could do a world of good.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Who is to judge which beliefs are moronic and which are not? You have no objective way to measure that. Not that i expect you to grasp basic logic.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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but you just said i should respect your beliefs yet you give everybody elses beliefs nothing but contempt. i believe that almost every religion is seriously outdated but you have to understand that many people live their lives around the principles that these religions preach. you may not like that but that does not mean you should taunt them
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,351
They judge people on their beliefs? :shocked:
Of course they do. That's what any judge anywhere does.

They JUDGE.

but you just said i should respect your beliefs yet you give everybody elses beliefs nothing but contempt. i believe that almost every religion is seriously outdated but you have to understand that many people live their lives around the principles that these religions preach. you may not like that but that does not mean you should taunt them
I was joking obviously.

Many people, not all, not even most, Boz.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,351
No, they want me to say that I respect their kneeling before a rock. I have to say it is equal to my beliefs. I'll do no such thing. My beliefs are better. A LOT better.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
No, they want me to say that I respect their kneeling before a rock. I have to say it is equal to my beliefs. I'll do no such thing. My beliefs are better. A LOT better.
Everybody believes their beliefs are better than others. I too think my beliefs are better than yours, its human bias, subjectivity whatever the fuck you want to call it. But you can still respect other peoples beliefs even if you don't think they're as good as yours. You wouldnt believe whatever it is you believe if you didnt think it was better than other beliefs, would you?


Really is this all that difficult to grasp? I never thought you were that intelligent to be honest, but this is basic logic.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Everybody believes their beliefs are better than others. I too think my beliefs are better than yours, its human bias, subjectivity whatever the fuck you want to call it. But you can still respect other peoples beliefs even if you don't think they're as good as yours. You wouldnt believe whatever it is you believe if you didnt think it was better than other beliefs, would you?


Really is this all that difficult to grasp? I never thought you were that intelligent to be honest, but this is basic logic.
No, it's because the other way around it would be stupid. If I thought your beliefs where better than mine and still had mine, I'd be an utter moron.

And that's not what respect is about. The word is so corrupted these days.

Respect:
1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem.
2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.

I have none of those things towards your beliefs.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
No, it's because the other way around it would be stupid. If I thought your beliefs where better than mine and still had mine, I'd be an utter moron.

And that's not what respect is about. The word is so corrupted these days.

Respect:
1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem.
2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.

I have none of those things towards your beliefs.


Well thats your right and i won't hold it against you. What i will hold against you is your constant attempts at provoking. Its one thing to criticize constructively or just state your opinion about a certain religion(s) its a whole other thing to just throw in hateful comments for the purpose of provocation.

The former is acceptable the latter isnt
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,351
Well thats your right and i won't hold it against you. What i will hold against you is your constant attempts at provoking. Its one thing to criticize constructively or just state your opinion about a certain religion(s) its a whole other thing to just throw in hateful comments for the purpose of provocation.

The former is acceptable the latter isnt
Oh please. That's such a lie. I'd be ashamed if I'd even thought of saying such bullshit, let alone writing it down.
 
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