[ITA] Serie A 2007/2008 (42 Viewers)

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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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The problem is that people won't stand up to it, because it would mean the end of Serie A for quite some time. It can't bear another blow. But, as I am slowly beginning to realise now, Inter and Moratti were always working on Calciopoli-part 1. There is, of course, no evidence for us to see, but if you'd just compare pre-Calciopoli with post-Calciopoli you see a very abnormal evolution.

It's not a mere coincidence, nor is it incompetence on part of the refs. Someone is as Moratti would like to put it, "influencing" games.
Moratti has a dream obviously and he is doing all he can to achieve it, actually he does not need much effort anymore to achieve his dream.
 

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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There has been so many bad calls this season that it's just ridiculous.

Go watch all the games in the Premiership, La Liga, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 and you wouldn't see this many biased fucking calls as you do in Italy. You just wouldn't. Real Madrid doesn't get even a third of what Inter gets.

Every other match day it's Inter getting a favorable call that skews the results... a call that refs from other nations wouldn't ever give. Handballs off heads, yellows for taps on the shoulders, penalties for coughing on a player. Get the fuck out of here.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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It's not very easy to tell if Inter is doing what were "doing" before, but I never ever doubted that Italian football is dirty, it will always stay dirty, and btw, what is happening today is no different what was happening the last decade and more (From the period I am watching Serie A), big teams get favored, some of them more than the other, it was always the case, just some teams switched places..
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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It's not very easy to tell if Inter is doing what were "doing" before, but I never ever doubted that Italian football is dirty, it will always stay dirty, and btw, what is happening today is no different what was happening the last decade and more (From the period I am watching Serie A), big teams get favored, some of them more than the other, it was always the case, just some teams switched places..
So are the beg teams nowadays Inter? Because Inter is one team not teams.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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It's not very easy to tell if Inter is doing what were "doing" before, but I never ever doubted that Italian football is dirty, it will always stay dirty, and btw, what is happening today is no different what was happening the last decade and more (From the period I am watching Serie A), big teams get favored, some of them more than the other, it was always the case, just some teams switched places..
We never did what Inter is doing ATM. It was probably happening once per 10matches and it was somehow arguable calls. Not what we're seeing nowadays.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
It's not very easy to tell if Inter is doing what were "doing" before, but I never ever doubted that Italian football is dirty, it will always stay dirty, and btw, what is happening today is no different what was happening the last decade and more (From the period I am watching Serie A), big teams get favored, some of them more than the other, it was always the case, just some teams switched places..
We would have won without refs. Inter wouldn't have.

As far as I'm concerned Calciopoli 1 has no credibility left for a number of reasons:

In a normal set of affairs the situation would improve. If a crime is detected and "solved" it doesn't drag on. And it especially doesn't get worse. It is absolutely unimaginable that Inter would get away with what they're getting away with now if Calciopoli 1 was all true.

Inter have also been a driving force in Calciopoli 1. It's not normal for a team to interfere. A team can complain, they can't go and "investigate" stuff on their own. And it is especially weird that the team who instigated Calciopoli 1, would so hugely benefit in the leagues following Calciopoli.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
We never did what is Inter doing ATM. It was probably happening once per 10matches and it was somehow arguable calls. Not what we're seeing nowadays.
This is not what Inter, Roma, Fiorentina, Parma, Bologna fans think. I remember very well some decisions in favor for us that made me sick. let's not be biased, it doesn't make us any better fans. If you want justice, then it should be done on every team without any exception, justice in Serie A is not going to happen, stop dreaming guys, this league won't get cleaned, EVER!
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Weren't you saying yourself Fiorentina were getting some gifts? there are other examples too.
Fiorentina got some gifts in their favour and they got gifts against them, it all depends one what is good for Inter in the end. The other examples are also the same, the good of Inter, the bad for Juve and others.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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This is not what Inter, Roma, Fiorentina, Parma, Bologna fans think. I remember very well some decisions in favor for us that made me sick. let's not be biased, it doesn't make us any better fans. If you want justice, then it should be done on every team without any exception, justice in Serie A is not going to happen, stop dreaming guys, this league won't get cleaned, EVER!
I'm not biased at all. I'm more than convinced and sure of what I'm saying. Yes there were couple of disgusting calls were in our favor, but that wasn't even happening week by week.

Plus, like I said it was very arguable calls.

If we were thrown down to Serie B for some arguable calls in our favor couple of years ago, I don't know where Inter should be thrown.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
This is not what Inter, Roma, Fiorentina, Parma, Bologna fans think. I remember very well some decisions in favor for us that made me sick. let's not be biased, it doesn't make us any better fans. If you want justice, then it should be done on every team without any exception, justice in Serie A is not going to happen, stop dreaming guys, this league won't get cleaned, EVER!
I'm a Bologna fan, I think so :p.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,788
We would have won without refs. Inter wouldn't have.

As far as I'm concerned Calciopoli 1 has no credibility left for a number of reasons:

In a normal set of affairs the situation would improve. If a crime is detected and "solved" it doesn't drag on. And it especially doesn't get worse. It is absolutely unimaginable that Inter would get away with what they're getting away with now if Calciopoli 1 was all true.

Inter have also been a driving force in Calciopoli 1. It's not normal for a team to interfere. A team can complain, they can't go and "investigate" stuff on their own. And it is especially weird that the team who instigated Calciopoli 1, would so hugely benefit in the leagues following Calciopoli.
I can't believe it but, +rep
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
We would have won without refs. Inter wouldn't have.

As far as I'm concerned Calciopoli 1 has no credibility left for a number of reasons:

In a normal set of affairs the situation would improve. If a crime is detected and "solved" it doesn't drag on. And it especially doesn't get worse. It is absolutely unimaginable that Inter would get away with what they're getting away with now if Calciopoli 1 was all true.

Inter have also been a driving force in Calciopoli 1. It's not normal for a team to interfere. A team can complain, they can't go and "investigate" stuff on their own. And it is especially weird that the team who instigated Calciopoli 1, would so hugely benefit in the leagues following Calciopoli.
We could lose some of the matches, who might affected the last standing, same way can be said about Inter (They have a huge squad, and could win without helps), but sure I agree with you, Inter is the most one who got the most benefits out of this "Calciopoli", and I am as mad as you that we paid all these punishment for nothing, I mean if the league won't get cleaned and will go on the same way, then what's the point of the punishment? I am just trying to be as objective as possible towards these, just like I hated when Juve were getting favors and other teams too, Roma, and Milan in past, the same is going on with other teams, with switched roles, and that's unfair!
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
We could lose some of the matches, who might affected the last standing, same way can be said about Inter (They have a huge squad, and could win without helps), but sure I agree with you, Inter is the most one who got the most benefits out of this "Calciopoli", and I am as mad as you that we paid all these punishment for nothing, I mean if the league won't get cleaned and will go on the same way, then what's the point of the punishment? I am just trying to be as objective as possible towards these, just like I hated when Juve were getting favors and other teams too, Roma, and Milan in past, the same is going on with other teams, with switched roles, and that's unfair!
In the past Juventus, Milan and Roma were getting debatable calls in their favour. Inter were getting little, I concur there. But perhaps that was just because it is so damn easy to hate Inter.

So that's the distant past. Then we get Calciopoli - part 1. Inter is a huge stimulus in this investigation and Juventus and to a lesser extent Milan get punished. There is not quite proof of an actual crime and Juventus get punished because of suspicions.

Today there is one team benefitting from refereeing errors, with all other teams losing point because of them.

Mind you, this is a simple timeline. It is not an opinion. It's a timeline. You might want to think twice about that, snoop.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
I'm not biased at all. I'm more than convinced and sure of what I'm saying. Yes there were couple of disgusting calls were in our favor, but that wasn't even happening week by week.

Plus, like I said it was very arguable calls.

If we were thrown down to Serie B for some arguable calls in our favor couple of years ago, I don't know where Inter should be thrown.
Same thoughts, Inter deserve no less than the punishments we paid.
 
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