Israeli-Palestinian conflict (48 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Sep 4, 2006
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I thought some of you might be interested in seeing this. If you start from 11 mins in you can watch Elissa Slotkin get grilled on her Israel position much more brutally than any mainstream outlet ever would. Surprised she agreed to this interview.

 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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That's cystic fibrosis if you believe the adverts spamming on YouTube. That bastard also prayed on the Muslim grounds in Jerusalem, breaking the one single agreement that the Israelis have forever kept. They're mocking the Muslims even after their genocide. What an evil race. Fuck them.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,197
This has been the plan all along. That whole October 7 farce was allowed to happen precisely for this plan. They sacrificed their own citizens for it, and the families are too dumb to realize it.

I remember when the good guys used to do things like storm the beaches of Normandy or Hiroshima a city when a Holocaust was going on. Guess those days are over. But maybe once Greater Israel is in place it will be easier to nuke Tel Aviv. Wouldn’t that be nice.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,496
This has been the plan all along. That whole October 7 farce was allowed to happen precisely for this plan. They sacrificed their own citizens for it, and the families are too dumb to realize it.

I remember when the good guys used to do things like storm the beaches of Normandy or Hiroshima a city when a Holocaust was going on. Guess those days are over. But maybe once Greater Israel is in place it will be easier to nuke Tel Aviv. Wouldn’t that be nice.
The bigger issue for Israel is probably that they rely on the goodwill of the rest of the world, in particular the US and the EU.

I understand that Israel has a lot of influence through the corporate world, but much of that goodwill also exists because of the Holocaust and the fallout after. Through movies and high school education empathy for the Jewish plight is imprinted in pretty much any young American or European. Netanyahu has managed to destroy this. In reality Israel has been committing acts of genocide for decades. Their recent behaviour is only an escalation. But it has been so brutal that it is undeniable.

And I'm sorry, you can call me callous, but I have no sympathy left for any Jewish person referring to the Holocaust. None. They were not alive when this happened. Their parents were not alive when this happened. But they were alive when Israel was trying to annihilate and dehumanize an entire population. They are not victims, but they may be perpetrators.

Fortunately enough there are many Jewish organizations that are standing up to this genocidal regime. This is not a matter of race, ethnicity or religion. This is a matter of some people being evil, regardless of whether they're German or Jewish. And frankly my heart also goes out to any Jewish person who sees what is happening and does not agree.

But it is really difficult for me to imagine how the state of Israel in its current form will be able to continue to exist. There are so many perks on so many levels that Israel receives because of the past. They can be part of UEFA, they can partake in Eurosong, their businesses get preferential treatment, many countries have long refused to recognize Palestine out of fear of insulting Israel, ... The list goes on and on. And Israel needs all of this to survive. But who wants to give preferential treatment to genocidal madmen?
 
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The bigger issue for Israel is probably that they rely on the goodwill of the rest of the world, in particular the US and the EU.

I understand that Israel has a lot of influence through the corporate world, but much of that goodwill also exists because of the Holocaust and the fallout after. Through movies and high school education empathy for the Jewish plight is imprinted in pretty much any young American or European. Netanyahu has managed to destroy this. In reality Israel has been committing acts of genocide for decades. Their recent behaviour is only an escalation. But it has been so brutal that it is undeniable.

And I'm sorry, you can call me callous, but I have no sympathy left for any Jewish person referring to the Holocaust. None. They were not alive when this happened. Their parents were not alive when this happened. But they were alive when Israel was trying to annihilate and dehumanize an entire population. They are not victims, but they may be perpetrators.

Fortunately enough there are many Jewish organizations that are standing up to this genocidal regime. This is not a matter of race, ethnicity or religion. This is a matter of some people being evil, regardless of whether they're German or Jewish. And frankly my heart also goes out to any Jewish person who sees what is happening and does not agree.

But it is really difficult for me to imagine how the state of Israel in its current form will be able to continue to exist. There are so many perks on so many levels that Israel receives because of the past. They can be part of UEFA, they can partake in Eurosong, their businesses get preferential treatment, many countries have long refused to recognize Palestine out of fear of insulting Israel, ... The list goes on and on. And Israel needs all of this to survive. But who wants to give preferential treatment to genocidal madmen?
The argument that the US/EU are supporting genocide in Palestine because of empathy over a past genocide is strange logic. I guess it makes sense if your goal is to whitewash their involvement or if you consider imperialist genocide and violence against non-white people as something exceptional to euro-american history, and if you ignore that a main benefactor of this supposed sympathy is a holocaust revisionist and nazi apologist.

As the German chancellor said plainly at the G7 in June, "israel is doing the dirty work for all of us". It has nothing to do with goodwill.
 
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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The argument that the US/EU are supporting genocide in Palestine because of empathy over a past genocide is strange logic. I guess it makes sense if your goal is to whitewash their involvement or if you consider imperialist genocide and violence against non-white people as something exceptional to euro-american history, and if you ignore that a main benefactor of this supposed sympathy is a holocaust revisionist and nazi apologist.

As the German chancellor said plainly at the G7 in June, "israel is doing the dirty work for all of us". It has nothing to do with goodwill.
There is no logic behind it, it's emotion.

It's not whitewashing anything either, I cannot for the life of me understand how you got that from my post.

Lastly the entire idea behind the Holocaust was that Jews were not Arian, so if all Europeans are racist like you say then why support Jews now?

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Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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There is no logic behind it, it's emotion.

It's not whitewashing anything either, I cannot for the life of me understand how you got that from my post.

Lastly the entire idea behind the Holocaust was that Jews were not Arian, so if all Europeans are racist like you say then why support Jews now?

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I wouldn't say all Euros are racist same way it would be retarded to say all jews or Israelis are racist. However I do see where @AlexDP705 is coming from, a retarded amount of western leaders come out and voice their support not only for Israel but for zionism. Zionism is no different then any type of politicized religion and seeing western leader of supposedly secular states that firmly believe in the separation of state and religion is wild. Even the likes of Trudeau was saying that he's a zionist, not to mention American presidents.

The western leaders and oligarchs most definitely fully support what's happening in the middle east.
 

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