Israeli-Palestinian conflict (47 Viewers)

[Ronn]

He’s probably dead or severely injured, otherwise he would’ve said something by now.

 

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[Bjerknes]

They're carpet bombing Beirut now. Creating another legion of people that are gonna hate your guts, Israhell.

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I'm so sick of our tax dollars going to support these atrocities committed by Israhell.

If Tel Aviv is wiped off the map tomorrow it's completely their own fault. They have made their bed.

 

[Mohad]

Whether Nasrallah is alive or dead, the leadership situation in Hezbollah is devastated, and it seems there is a traitor or mole among them.

It's clear that Israel is pushing for a regional war to break out.

 

[Scottish]

We still have a rather bad reputation from when we last tried to stop them. Someone else gotta try this time around.

Real talk - how strong an influence is this in German political thinking? I'm aware that the laws against antisemitism in Germany are tougher than anywhere else besides probably Israel and for obvious reasons, but do you feel people bend over backwards to not appear so? In the UK defending Israel is a typically right wing position and you'd expect the left wing to be more sympathetic to Palestine. Is it the opposite in Germany?

 

[s4tch]

They're carpet bombing Beirut now. Creating another legion of people that are gonna hate your guts, Israhell...

lebanese hate their guts since forever

and once again they pull that ridiculous narrative. hezbollah hides rockets to every kitchen, yeah right. incredible how the world gives a terrorist country a free pass every time

 

[DAiDEViL]

Real talk - how strong an influence is this in German political thinking? I'm aware that the laws against antisemitism in Germany are tougher than anywhere else besides probably Israel and for obvious reasons, but do you feel people bend over backwards to not appear so? In the UK defending Israel is a typically right wing position and you'd expect the left wing to be more sympathetic to Palestine. Is it the opposite in Germany?

VERY.

This isn't a bad read:

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-stands-by-israel-as-its-reason-of-state-with-caveats/a-68918777

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lebanese hate their guts since forever

and once again they pull that ridiculous narrative. hezbollah hides rockets to every kitchen, yeah right. incredible how the world gives a terrorist country a free pass every time

Idk man, that @s4tch guy sounds hella suspicious to me. If I was Israel, I'd have a close, penetrating look at his kitchen.

 

[Seven]

They're carpet bombing Beirut now. Creating another legion of people that are gonna hate your guts, Israhell.

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I'm so sick of our tax dollars going to support these atrocities committed by Israhell.

If Tel Aviv is wiped off the map tomorrow it's completely their own fault. They have made their bed.

Netanyahu is ordering the attacks from New York.

At this point I'd consider the US a participant in Israel's atrocities.



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[Ronn]

He’s dead. Also dead is Abbas Nilforoushan, an IRGC top commander.

 

[loyada]

Rumors has it that Iraq (Iran-backed groups) is the next target after Lebanon , and the USA and the Gulf states already gave the thumbs up.

 

[Juve-Fan-Iraq]

Rumors has it that Iraq (Iran-backed groups) is the next target after Lebanon , and the USA and the Gulf states already gave the thumbs up.

There are a few Iran loyalists that are scared shitless in Iraq. Even their statements have been reserved the past couple of days.

 

[s4tch]

anything to add at this point?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Invasion of Lebanon is imminent, possibly has started already.

 

[Fab Fragment]

Wonder who might be next for an Israeli invasion? Jordan are the weakest on paper.

Invasion of Lebanon is imminent, possibly has started already.

 

[Tomice]

People have such a simplistic view of geopolitics.

Israel isn't a rogue state like everyone here conveniently believe, its just doing the dirty work for the anti-shia axis coalition. No other country want to take the heat for what must be done. Its all virtue signalling.

This is not a war on Lebanon or Lebanese people lol, we have nothing against them. its a war on international terror organisation that hijacked a whole country and destroyed it from within, butchered tens of thousands Syrians for an evil dictator and then attacked another sovereign country right after Oct 7th. That fact that attacking such an evil entity is even in need to be defended show the absurdity of modern sensitivity and morality. Israel is not doing it for altruistic reasons, sure, but its far from uncalled for.

All of this is backed by the Saudis, the Emirates, Jordan, the US, France, Egypt and Lebanon itself to an extent. Its in everyone interest to kick the Shia axis out of the region and destroy Hizzbulla.

Why is it more likely that a tiny country like Israel is manipulating world super powers to act against thier own interests then the simple alternative that its actions are inline with thiers?

 

[Seven]

People have such a simplistic view of geopolitics.

Israel isn't a rogue state like everyone here conveniently believe, its just doing the dirty work for the anti-shia axis coalition. No other country want to take the heat for what must be done. Its all virtue signalling.

This is not a war on Lebanon or Lebanese people lol, we have nothing against them. its a war on international terror organisation that hijacked a whole country and destroyed it from within, butchered tens of thousands Syrians for an evil dictator and then attacked another sovereign country right after Oct 7th. That fact that attacking such an evil entity is even in need to be defended show the absurdity of modern sensitivity and morality. Israel is not doing it for altruistic reasons, sure, but its far from uncalled for.

All of this is backed by the Saudis, the Emirates, Jordan, the US, France, Egypt and Lebanon itself to an extent. Its in everyone interest to kick the Shia axis out of the region and destroy Hizzbulla.

Why is it more likely that a tiny country like Israel is manipulating world super powers to act against thier own interests then the simple alternative that its actions are inline with thiers?

This is not a particularly compelling moral argument.

Basically you're saying that what Israel is doing might be horrible, but as the world's super powers profit from it they won't stop Israel.

How does that absolve Israel?

 

[Fab Fragment]

People have such a simplistic view of geopolitics.

Israel isn't a rogue state like everyone here conveniently believe, its just doing the dirty work for the anti-shia axis coalition. No other country want to take the heat for what must be done. Its all virtue signalling.

This is not a war on Lebanon or Lebanese people lol, we have nothing against them. its a war on international terror organisation that hijacked a whole country and destroyed it from within, butchered tens of thousands Syrians for an evil dictator and then attacked another sovereign country right after Oct 7th. That fact that attacking such an evil entity is even in need to be defended show the absurdity of modern sensitivity and morality. Israel is not doing it for altruistic reasons, sure, but its far from uncalled for.

All of this is backed by the Saudis, the Emirates, Jordan, the US, France, Egypt and Lebanon itself to an extent. Its in everyone interest to kick the Shia axis out of the region and destroy Hizzbulla.

Why is it more likely that a tiny country like Israel is manipulating world super powers to act against thier own interests then the simple alternative that its actions are inline with thiers?

Incredibly shameless statement.
So doing someone else's dirty work allows you to drop 2000 lb bombs, kill and maim women and children, sodomize prisoners and the list goes on and on.

 

[Tomice]

This is not a particularly compelling moral argument.

Basically you're saying that what Israel is doing might be horrible, but as the world's super powers profit from it they won't stop Israel.

How does that absolve Israel?

Im not making a moral argument, moral has no place in geopolitics. Countries don't act on morals.

Horrible or not, every war or conflict is horrible by nature. But the point was that Israel is not merely not stoped, its that its action are in full cooperation and support of it's allies.

 

[Seven]

Im not making a moral argument, moral has no place in geopolitics. Countries don't act on morals.

Horrible or not, every war or conflict is horrible by nature. But the point was that Israel is not merely not stoped, its that its action are in full cooperation and support of it's allies.

And this makes Israel's behaviour better, how?

 

[Hust]

Invasion of Lebanon is imminent, possibly has started already.

It was in process over a week ago (and long before) - that was the point of the pagers/electronic supply chain attack and follow on bombings

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https://www.axios.com/2024/10/01/iran-missile-attack-israel

lol here we go

 

[Tomice]

And this makes Israel's behaviour better, how?

Israel actions in Lebanon are 100% justified imo, this was brewing for a decade now and came to a boil in the last year.

Im more then willing to debate Israeli justification or "behaviour" in the conflict in gaza but Lebanon issue is entirely different beast. No country would tolerate the situation in northern Israel.

Israel actions in lebanon are part of an alliance against the Iranian-russian-chinese axis, and are inevitable imo. You are entitled to pick whichever side you want or not pick any, but this need to be resolved either way.