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Jul 2, 2006
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Israel steps up deadly Gaza Strip offensive

At least 27 dead and 130 wounded in air strikes on strip, as Palestinian president appeals for international help.


Israel's intense bombardment of the Gaza Strip has killed at least 27 people and wounded 130 others, Palestinian officials have said.

Israel on Tuesday said it was ready for a long-term offensive against Hamas in the Palestinian territory after a surge in rocket attacks on Israeli towns.

"We are preparing for a battle against Hamas which will not end within a few days," Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon said in a statement.

Israeli said it had undertaken more than 273 airstrikes against the strip on Tuesday.

The Israeli cabinet has authorised the calling up of 40,000 army reservists ahead of a possible ground offensive. At least 1,500 soldiers have already been deployed around the perimeter of Gaza.

Hafez Hamad, one of the leaders of the al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of Islamic Jihad, was killed in a strike on his home in Beit Hannoun, neighbours and hospital officials said.

Two children, two females, and one adult male were also reported killed in the attack.

At least five children were among 12 others killed in Gaza on Tuesday, Palestinian officials said.

Abbas appeal

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas appeared on Palestinian TV late on Tuesday to appeal for international help as renewed conflict between Israel and Hamas continued to escalate.

Abbas said he had been in touch with the various Palestinian factions and leaders of Hamas who, he said, did not want an escalation.

"What's happening in the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem is not a war between two armies," he said.

"The Palestinian people are an unarmed people, people who live under occupation.

"It's time now for the international community, and especially the Quartet and the Security Council to take their responsibility to guarantee the international protection of our people."

'Iron Dome' deployed

The renewed violence came a day after nine Palestinians were killed after more than 60 Israeli airstrikes struck the Gaza strip on Monday. Palestinian fighters launched more than 80 rockets that day.

Following the worst outbreak of violence along the Gaza frontier since an eight-day war in 2012, the Israeli military said a ground invasion was possible, though not imminent, and urged citizens within a range of 40km of the coastal territory to stay close to bomb shelters.

Israelis ran for cover as sirens sounded in Tel Aviv in the deepest attack from Gaza since hostilities flared three weeks ago after the abduction and killing of three young Israeli settlers.

A state of emergency has been declared in Israel's business capital where rockets were apparently intercepted by Israel's "Iron Dome" missile defence system.

Air raid sirens later sounded in Jerusalem, where dozens of rockets landed close to the city. Israel said other areas targeted included Beer Sheva, Ashdod and Ashkelon

The Israeli military said that in the past 24 hours, more than 100 rockets had been fired at its territory.

Some were intercepted by the Iron Dome anti-missile system, but two people were wounded by shrapnel.

The Israeli military said that more than 200 rockets have been launched at Israel from the Gaza Strip since Israel mounted the dragnet while searching for the missing settlers.

Of those killed on Tuesday, seven died in an air strike in the town of Khan Yunis, south of Gaza. At least 25 were injured in that attack.

Palestinian medical officials said that at least four were killed in a drone strike that hit a vehicle in al-Wahda Street in the centre of Gaza.

Earlier on Tuesday, an air raid targeted a site belonging to the al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, killing one person.

US backs Israel

Explosions echoed across the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, shaking buildings and sending smoke rising from targets hit by Israeli fire.

In residential areas, the sounds of crying children could be heard as ambulance sirens wailed. Some people took to rooftops to watch for Israeli aircraft and rockets streaking towards Israel.

"We will not tolerate rocket fire against our cities and townships, and therefore I ordered a significant broadening of IDF (Israel Defence Force) operations against the terrorists of Hamas and other terror groups in the Gaza Strip," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

Washington has backed Israel's actions while France, Germany, and the United Nations urged restraint on both sides.

"We strongly condemn the continuing rocket fire inside of Israel and the deliberate targeting of civilians by terrorist organisations in Gaza," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

Al Jazeera and agencies
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
3 Israeli children were kidnapped and brutally murdered. Hamas has been shooting rockets- aiming for citizens nonstop (only because of Iron Dome there has been 0 israeli casualties so far instead of hundreds).
Why do you think that Israel's response has been Illegitimate is beyond me. Do you really think Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself against those terrorists?
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
3 Israeli children were kidnapped and brutally murdered. Hamas has been shooting rockets- aiming for citizens nonstop (only because of Iron Dome there has been 0 israeli casualties so far instead of hundreds).
Why do you think that Israel's response has been Illegitimate is beyond me. Do you really think Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself against those terrorists?
Who murdered the 3 Israeli children? And you find it normal to kill 10's of kids as a response?
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
Who murdered the 3 Israeli children? And you find it normal to kill 10's of kids as a response?
2 Hamas members. Yes, the Hamas hasn't gave them the order to do so but it doesn't matter. Hamas members, Hamas' responsibility.
And unlike Hamas, IDF's goal is not to kill innocent civilians, but to kill the terrorists- Hamas members. But, of course, Hamas chooses to get 30 children inside a terrorist's house, that they know IDF is about to bomb, so that the entire world will see the IDF as murderers.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
2 Hamas members. Yes, the Hamas hasn't gave them the order to do so but it doesn't matter. Hamas members, Hamas' responsibility.
Hamas denied, there was not a single evidence that they are behind this.

And unlike Hamas, IDF's goal is not to kill innocent civilians, but to kill the terrorists- Hamas members. But, of course, Hamas chooses to get 30 children inside a terrorist's house, that they know IDF is about to bomb, so that the entire world will see the IDF as murderers.
Seriously? Just for the record I am Lebanese, sell this line somewhere else, there's a chance an ignorant would buy this.
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
The 2 kidnappers are Hamas members, therefor Hamas is responsible for the kidnapping. Just like that if an IDF soldier murders an Arab child with no reason, it's IDF's responsibility, also if the soldier wasn't given any order to do what he did.

And let's leave the kidnapping aside for a minute...
As I said, Hamas has been shooting non-stop, aiming to kill innocent civilians, THERE IS NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that wouldn't respond severely when it's people's life are in danger and they should run to the shelters 30 times a day.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Israel steps up deadly Gaza Strip offensive

At least 27 dead and 130 wounded in air strikes on strip, as Palestinian president appeals for international help.


Israel's intense bombardment of the Gaza Strip has killed at least 27 people and wounded 130 others, Palestinian officials have said.

Israel on Tuesday said it was ready for a long-term offensive against Hamas in the Palestinian territory after a surge in rocket attacks on Israeli towns.

"We are preparing for a battle against Hamas which will not end within a few days," Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon said in a statement.

Israeli said it had undertaken more than 273 airstrikes against the strip on Tuesday.

The Israeli cabinet has authorised the calling up of 40,000 army reservists ahead of a possible ground offensive. At least 1,500 soldiers have already been deployed around the perimeter of Gaza.

Hafez Hamad, one of the leaders of the al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of Islamic Jihad, was killed in a strike on his home in Beit Hannoun, neighbours and hospital officials said.

Two children, two females, and one adult male were also reported killed in the attack.

At least five children were among 12 others killed in Gaza on Tuesday, Palestinian officials said.

Abbas appeal

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas appeared on Palestinian TV late on Tuesday to appeal for international help as renewed conflict between Israel and Hamas continued to escalate.

Abbas said he had been in touch with the various Palestinian factions and leaders of Hamas who, he said, did not want an escalation.

"What's happening in the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem is not a war between two armies," he said.

"The Palestinian people are an unarmed people, people who live under occupation.

"It's time now for the international community, and especially the Quartet and the Security Council to take their responsibility to guarantee the international protection of our people."

'Iron Dome' deployed

The renewed violence came a day after nine Palestinians were killed after more than 60 Israeli airstrikes struck the Gaza strip on Monday. Palestinian fighters launched more than 80 rockets that day.

Following the worst outbreak of violence along the Gaza frontier since an eight-day war in 2012, the Israeli military said a ground invasion was possible, though not imminent, and urged citizens within a range of 40km of the coastal territory to stay close to bomb shelters.

Israelis ran for cover as sirens sounded in Tel Aviv in the deepest attack from Gaza since hostilities flared three weeks ago after the abduction and killing of three young Israeli settlers.

A state of emergency has been declared in Israel's business capital where rockets were apparently intercepted by Israel's "Iron Dome" missile defence system.

Air raid sirens later sounded in Jerusalem, where dozens of rockets landed close to the city. Israel said other areas targeted included Beer Sheva, Ashdod and Ashkelon

The Israeli military said that in the past 24 hours, more than 100 rockets had been fired at its territory.

Some were intercepted by the Iron Dome anti-missile system, but two people were wounded by shrapnel.

The Israeli military said that more than 200 rockets have been launched at Israel from the Gaza Strip since Israel mounted the dragnet while searching for the missing settlers.

Of those killed on Tuesday, seven died in an air strike in the town of Khan Yunis, south of Gaza. At least 25 were injured in that attack.

Palestinian medical officials said that at least four were killed in a drone strike that hit a vehicle in al-Wahda Street in the centre of Gaza.

Earlier on Tuesday, an air raid targeted a site belonging to the al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, killing one person.

US backs Israel

Explosions echoed across the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, shaking buildings and sending smoke rising from targets hit by Israeli fire.

In residential areas, the sounds of crying children could be heard as ambulance sirens wailed. Some people took to rooftops to watch for Israeli aircraft and rockets streaking towards Israel.

"We will not tolerate rocket fire against our cities and townships, and therefore I ordered a significant broadening of IDF (Israel Defence Force) operations against the terrorists of Hamas and other terror groups in the Gaza Strip," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

Washington has backed Israel's actions while France, Germany, and the United Nations urged restraint on both sides.

"We strongly condemn the continuing rocket fire inside of Israel and the deliberate targeting of civilians by terrorist organisations in Gaza," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

Al Jazeera and agencies
How many years will it take before them filthy Jews have killed more arabs, then hitler killed filthy jews in '40-'45 ?
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
The 2 kidnappers are Hamas members, therefor Hamas is responsible for the kidnapping. Just like that if an IDF soldier murders an Arab child with no reason, it's IDF's responsibility, also if the soldier wasn't given any order to do what he did.
No, they are not Hamas members. It's what you want to believe and it's what your interior sources make you believe.

And let's leave the kidnapping aside for a minute...
As I said, Hamas has been shooting non-stop, aiming to kill innocent civilians, THERE IS NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that wouldn't respond severely when it's people's life are in danger and they should run to the shelters 30 times a day.
Except that Israel is not a country as much as it hurts you. Add to that, I myself I'm not Hamas fan but I know for a fact that they haven't started this, I've known Israeli's politics and system pretty well living in the zone so you cant really sell me how Israel are defending themselves.

What's happening now is part of squeezing the Palestinians away from Gaza just like it happened years before in many other cities where Palestinians were majority and not anymore. It's the same old scheme.
 

BottomLine

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2012
318
Except that Israel is not a country as much as it hurts you. Add to that, I myself I'm not Hamas fan but I know for a fact that they haven't started this, I've known Israeli's politics and system pretty well living in the zone so you cant really sell me how Israel are defending themselves.

What's happening now is part of squeezing the Palestinians away from Gaza just like it happened years before in many other cities where Palestinians were majority and not anymore. It's the same old scheme.
Oh please, cut the bullshit. Of course, because you are from Lebanon you know the facts better than I do.
Let me tell you something brother- I am a Jew that lives in Israel. I have served in the IDF and I know Israeli's politics and system better than anyone here. I want peace between the Jew's and the Palestinians more than most of you, believe me.

The Palestinians has no history right for this country, unlike the Jews. The Palestinians are simply a bunch of arabs who happen to live in Israel before 48', with nothing in common.

And I still don't get it- why Israel doesn't have the right to defend their own people?!?! Including, by the way, the arabs who live in Israel, enjoy much better lifes than they would have in a poor undeveloped arab country, understand that and live in peace with the Jews.
 

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