Israeli-Palestinian conflict (41 Viewers)

[The Curr]

ReBeL,


Dublin

The only pic I could find.

 

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[JBF]

Did innocent people die? Questionable.

Seriously 7??Seriously??

How the fuck did you come up with that conclusion huh? Did you see them going that war-zone armed and ready for a fight and honorable death at that? Did you search their names and found out all about some ugly past of theirs where they kidnapped, assaulted or murdered others? Or are you doing what you've been doing all along in this thread and that is assumptions, a pretty fucked-up ones at that.

When you've that amazing ability to read people's minds and inside their hearts let me know next time, not for anything but the sake of labeling it as BS.

Provocation. You know that, if you're going there, bad things might happen to you. You also know that it's not always that easy to determine if it's a military operation or a ship which carries no weapons at all. Quite frankly, simply going there is odd to say the least.

So what you're essentially saying, people shouldn't rush to help other people out of humanity as long as they're jeopardizing their lives in the process?

Then what the fuck is humanity all about, unless you want to aid countries at peace when they don't need the damn aids

If a guy comes to your house and says, "I just want to come in and help your sick sister."

And you say, "Dude, I have a gun, and you aren't coming in my house or I'll shoot you."

But the guy starts trying to break into your house and eventually does, and you shoot him, who is at fault?

Congratulations for the dumbest analogy ever, seriously, so fucking stupid.

Couldn't have said it better.

Anyone here finds irony in Turkey's condemnation of Israel's acts? Maybe some of the Armenians in the thread have something to say...

Still trying so hard every freakin time to divert the attention from the criminals yet failing miserably again..

The ships were intercepted in international waters, you do know that right?

Thats like going over to the guy when he's a block away from your house and shooting him.

Plus thats a bad analogy, how can Palestinians - Israelis be like brother and sister?

You could have made a better analogy by saying, that a thief who has broken and entered into a guys house a long time ago and has a blockade imposed on him, not allowing basic things like food and water in, then come a few people who want to help the rightful owner in the house, the thief, incensed at their desire to help the owner goes over to the street, before the helpers even reach the house and shoots at them.

It was the same analogy used on Fox News.

I am almost 100% certain that humanitarian aid was a secondary objective, yes. It does not justify killing them and I didn't say it did. But they're nowhere near as innocent as they are portrayed.

No they're not. They're criminals of being murdered if there's such a thing, if it wasn't for them being dead Im sure you would have come up with a way to prosecute them after all, they dared to put an effort trying to save dying people unlike billions others talking about how insane it is to go on a relief-aid mission.

Please enlighten them on how to do that.

Yea, he always know better

Who is in favour of banning Turk from this thread? He causes aggravation for everyone here and brings nothing to the table.

Im in favour of banning you from this thread for twisting facts and trying to make a debate out of nothing every fuckin day.

why is that pikachu looks fat? must be a bomb!

did you see blue turtle? Hamas will use it in bunker construction.

These "serious consequences" would hopefully mean a lot to the Palestinians. I'm looking forward to seeing a day when this is not only shitty governments like Iran (who are having problems with the whole world except for Omar Bashir and Mugabe) supporting Palestinians. Israel becoming more and more secluded, more people all over the world becoming disapproved of what Israel is doing in Gaza is what Palestinians need instead of calling for more wars waiting for a miracle to happen and "the day to come".

 

[Bjerknes]

Let Israel continue committing atrocities. They will only spur on more suffering for themselves.

 

[Enron]

I do have to say. Burke analogy does work. You retards just can't read.

 

[The Curr]

Yeah, I see where Burke is coming from.

 

[king Ale]

Volunteering yourself doesn't mean you're going to die. You can defend your country in too many ways and there's a chance you don't die. But I feel it's my duty as a young man to defend my country because sometimes when it's too much it's just too much. And imagine this is coming from a non religious person who believes in nothing but himself. But I've had enough.

I believe losing your life over a cause doesn't change much too but I'm not the type of person who welcomes criminals and murders on a door without reacting. Each one is entitled to defend his own house.

You are for fighting with Israel. I'm not. You are the weaker party. More and more deaths to your people is not what you would want. Rab, no one cares about the people who are being killed in wars. That is a war, you kill and you are killed. There is no pity for those who are losing their lives in a war.

So one needs to be convincing enough to convince the public world? Very lame thing to say. Are they not seeing what's going on? Are they not brainwashed by the media? Aren't the Israeli's controlling world's money and playing a monopoly game with people's head?

If you think by convincing people you can solve things then good luck. But Prophet Mohammad and Jesus combined couldn't convince the world then lets hope someone else does.

Of course. And you haven't been successful to convince the public. No matter how brainwashed people are by the media and no matter how much Israel is controlling the world's money, for 60 years you have not been convincing enough to the public world. That's the only thing which really matters.

That's why seeing the world unanimously being disapproved of Israel attacking those aid ships is promising today.

 

[Bjerknes]

And the big bitch Chris Matthews defends Israel. Shocker.

 

[JBF]

You are for fighting with Israel. I'm not. You are the weaker party. More and more deaths to your people is not what you would want. Rab, no one cares about the people who are being killed in wars. That is a war, you kill and you are killed. There is no pity for those who are losing their lives in a war.

See this is what you don't get Hoori, we don't ask for war it was and still is enforced on us everyday for the last 62 years. israel would never blink twice before attacking any Arab country that shows any sign of moving forward with a project that is ambitious enough to break that gap with the zionists. They've done it before with Egypt and Iraq.

Take Lebanon as an example, they can't move forward they simply can't. Almost everyday the israeli airforce roams the country with F16 and the result is freaked tourists and a devastated economy as a consequence. Arabs realized that a long time ago while the governments always had their idiotic approach to this sensitive issue for nothing but being afraid on their power.

 

[king Ale]

You guys have watched Gran Torino? Those activists' deaths is very similar to the death of Walt Kowalski:

That night Walt drives to the home of the gang members who confront him with their weapons drawn on the front lawn. Walt talks loudly drawing the attention of the neighbors and places a cigarette in his mouth. He asks the gang for a light and slowly puts his hand in his jacket as if reaching for a gun and jerks it out quickly. The gang members begin firing and gun him down.

Sue releases Thao from Walt's basement, and they arrive at the crime scene, driving Walt's Gran Torino. It is revealed that Walt was not armed. The officer tells them the gang will be imprisoned for a long time due to the number of witnesses.



They knew they were going to be killed. They actually asked for it. You see Rab, that's when you losing your life can change something.

 

[Bjerknes]

Gran Torino is great. Plus it was shot in my grandmother's neighborhood.

 

[Nenz]

The similarities between the situation in Gaza and the ghettos of the second world war amazes me. Jews were literally bricked in, and anyone who attempted to provide them with aid were killed on the spot. Now we see them doing the EXACT same thing to the people of Gaza and to the people who are attempting to help them. Its fucking astonishing.

The main thing I don't understand is that no one is mentioning that Isreal blatantly breached international law when they boarded that ship in international. How can they argue that they acted in self defence when they should never have been on that boat in the first place?? The people on there had every right to beat those soldiers and defend themselves from piracy, so the fact that soldiers were attacked (even if it was with guns and knives) is irrelevent

The US are pissing me off trying to cease condemnation of this massacre. The whole thing is just absurd.

 

[Bjerknes]

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and editor of the Wall Street Journal seems to have it right.


He even sees the hilarity in all this by his smiling.

 

[Bjerknes]

Israel is a "Lunatic State."

 

[icemaη]

Any names/nationalities released about the people who were killed?

 

[ReBeL]

Any names/nationalities released about the people who were killed?

Not yet.

 

[ReBeL]

Nicaragua suspends diplomatic ties with Israel

Nicaragua suspended diplomatic ties with Israel on Tuesday in protest at Israel's raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla that killed nine people, President Daniel Ortega's office said.

"Nicaragua suspends from today its diplomatic relations with the government of Israel," communications chief Rosario Murillo said in a statement read on Radio Ya.

Managua "underscored the illegal nature of the attack on a humanitarian mission in clear violation of international and humanitarian law," added Murillo, who doubles as poetess and first lady.

Nicaragua reiterated its support for the Palestinian people and urged an end to the blockade on the Gaza Strip.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3897773,00.html

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Thanks, Nicaragua.

 

[ReBeL]

Well done Rebel.

ReBeL,


Dublin

The only pic I could find.

Thanks, Cur...

I tried to look for pics from there, but I found nothing.

 

[Naggar]

Hey they found nuclear weapons on it

 

[Seven]

Nicaragua suspends diplomatic ties with Israel

Nicaragua suspended diplomatic ties with Israel on Tuesday in protest at Israel's raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla that killed nine people, President Daniel Ortega's office said.

"Nicaragua suspends from today its diplomatic relations with the government of Israel," communications chief Rosario Murillo said in a statement read on Radio Ya.

Managua "underscored the illegal nature of the attack on a humanitarian mission in clear violation of international and humanitarian law," added Murillo, who doubles as poetess and first lady.

Nicaragua reiterated its support for the Palestinian people and urged an end to the blockade on the Gaza Strip.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3897773,00.html

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Thanks, Nicaragua.

Yeah, Nicaragua, that's the ally you needed. Now you can go to war.

 

[Seven]

Volunteering yourself doesn't mean you're going to die. You can defend your country in too many ways and there's a chance you don't die. But I feel it's my duty as a young man to defend my country because sometimes when it's too much it's just too much. And imagine this is coming from a non religious person who believes in nothing but himself. But I've had enough.

I believe losing your life over a cause doesn't change much too but I'm not the type of person who welcomes criminals and murders on a door without reacting. Each one is entitled to defend his own house.



So one needs to be convincing enough to convince the public world? Very lame thing to say. Are they not seeing what's going on? Are they not brainwashed by the media? Aren't the Israeli's controlling world's money and playing a monopoly game with people's head?

If you think by convincing people you can solve things then good luck. But Prophet Mohammad and Jesus combined couldn't convince the world then lets hope someone else does.

If it's a serious war, one that really threatens the core of Israel, they're going to hunt you down till the last man. You will die. That's why I say you need to change global public opinion first. If you want to fight Israel, you need a lot of support and more importantly, you need to take away support from them.

Funny you chose Mohammad and Jesus. I hear "fucking Jews" in that statement really.