Israeli-Palestinian conflict (71 Viewers)
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Someone had to break it to ya 
You should sound like the guys from Boondock Saints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKzM8xsQ5-U
You should sound like the guys from Boondock Saints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKzM8xsQ5-U
on me.
Whoaaa
Today, the first strike since many years has started in the Zionist prisons.
More than 8000 Palestinian prisoners in 10 central prisons decided to organize this strike because of the following:
1- Gaza families can not visit their relatives inside prisons since three years now as a punishment for capturing Israeli soldier Shalit by Hamas.
2- Jerusalem families can not visit their relatives also.
3- Palestinian families from inside the land occupied in 1948 - So called Israel - can not visit their relatives also.
4- No books is allowed to get in the prisons.
5- Prisoners can not continue their studies inside prisons.
6- Humiliating prisoners families from the West Bank when visiting their relatives.
7- Not giving the utmost medical care for prisoners.
Related info:
Number of Palestinian prisoners inside Israeli jails is around 11000.
Some of the prisoners spent very long time inside jail.
Nael Barghouthi has just entered his 33 years inside jail. He is the prisoner who spent the longest period until now inside prisons.
Sami Younes is the eldest prisoner inside Israeli jail. He is 79 years old now. Arrested since 1983, and he is from one of the villages inside the so called Israel.
More than 8000 Palestinian prisoners in 10 central prisons decided to organize this strike because of the following:
1- Gaza families can not visit their relatives inside prisons since three years now as a punishment for capturing Israeli soldier Shalit by Hamas.
2- Jerusalem families can not visit their relatives also.
3- Palestinian families from inside the land occupied in 1948 - So called Israel - can not visit their relatives also.
4- No books is allowed to get in the prisons.
5- Prisoners can not continue their studies inside prisons.
6- Humiliating prisoners families from the West Bank when visiting their relatives.
7- Not giving the utmost medical care for prisoners.
Related info:
Number of Palestinian prisoners inside Israeli jails is around 11000.
Some of the prisoners spent very long time inside jail.
Nael Barghouthi has just entered his 33 years inside jail. He is the prisoner who spent the longest period until now inside prisons.
Sami Younes is the eldest prisoner inside Israeli jail. He is 79 years old now. Arrested since 1983, and he is from one of the villages inside the so called Israel.
Gaza’s youth not 'superfluous’
'TO CUT down on gang-related crimes, policies could be put in place to curb the African-American population growth in places like Harlem and Compton. The government could consider cutting off welfare benefits for families in these urban areas to discourage births of blacks and cut down the supply of 'superfluous young men’ who have nothing else to do in their lives but be preyed on by criminal gang leaders who give them a sense of belonging. Ultimately these policies are an effective way to limit gang related crimes.’’
The absurdity and lack of logic in the above fictitious paragraph is overshadowed only by its offensive nature. Few would welcome such a view in 2010, but this kind of argument was made recently to an audience that received it with applause instead of disgust.
Martin Kramer, a fellow at Harvard University’s Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, made this argument at a conference in Israel last month. The only difference was that the population he sought to limit was Palestinians in Gaza to prevent “economically superfluous young men’’ from joining radical groups. He said that “if society cannot offer dignified pursuits for the fourth and fifth and sixth sons, then someone else will.’’
He also supported lowering the fertility rate for Palestinians in Gaza and argued that this “will happen faster if the West stops providing pro-natal subsidies for Palestinians with refugee status.’’
Society? In Kramer’s version of reality, it is Palestinian society that cannot offer dignified pursuits for their children. He seems to think Gaza exists in a vacuum. He seems to be ignorant of the events and actors that have created the current situation.
The children of Gaza are not “economically superfluous’’ because they were born into large families. Their inability to be productive members of society is not the fault of society itself, but the fault of the occupying and devastating force of the state of Israel. The occupation of Gaza and the subsequent siege and attacks by Israel have destroyed lives, industry and infrastructure. With the percentage of the population relying directly on food aid increasing from 60 percent to 80 percent in the past three years and unemployment at an all-time high, it is obvious that the children of Gaza are “superfluous’’ not simply because they are born, but because of what they are born into: a hell in a prison controlled from the outside by Israel.
Yet Kramer knows full well that Israel is laying siege to Gaza. In fact, he goes on to support it. The siege, he argued in his speech, can “break Gaza’s runaway population growth - and there is some evidence that they have - that may begin to crack the culture of martyrdom which demands a constant supply of superfluous young men.’’
The fact that Kramer fails to make the connection between Israeli policies and the conditions that lead to economic “superfluousness’’ undergirds his logical and analytical ineptitude. This, coupled with the racist and offensive nature of his comments, should push decision makers at Harvard University to reconsider whether it should be affiliated with such individuals.
Had Kramer’s comments been about any other group, as described in the opening paragraph, Harvard might have already terminated his fellowship.
By Yousef Munayyer
March 3, 2010
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e...icles/2010/03/03/gazas_youth_not_superfluous/
'TO CUT down on gang-related crimes, policies could be put in place to curb the African-American population growth in places like Harlem and Compton. The government could consider cutting off welfare benefits for families in these urban areas to discourage births of blacks and cut down the supply of 'superfluous young men’ who have nothing else to do in their lives but be preyed on by criminal gang leaders who give them a sense of belonging. Ultimately these policies are an effective way to limit gang related crimes.’’
The absurdity and lack of logic in the above fictitious paragraph is overshadowed only by its offensive nature. Few would welcome such a view in 2010, but this kind of argument was made recently to an audience that received it with applause instead of disgust.
Martin Kramer, a fellow at Harvard University’s Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, made this argument at a conference in Israel last month. The only difference was that the population he sought to limit was Palestinians in Gaza to prevent “economically superfluous young men’’ from joining radical groups. He said that “if society cannot offer dignified pursuits for the fourth and fifth and sixth sons, then someone else will.’’
He also supported lowering the fertility rate for Palestinians in Gaza and argued that this “will happen faster if the West stops providing pro-natal subsidies for Palestinians with refugee status.’’
Society? In Kramer’s version of reality, it is Palestinian society that cannot offer dignified pursuits for their children. He seems to think Gaza exists in a vacuum. He seems to be ignorant of the events and actors that have created the current situation.
The children of Gaza are not “economically superfluous’’ because they were born into large families. Their inability to be productive members of society is not the fault of society itself, but the fault of the occupying and devastating force of the state of Israel. The occupation of Gaza and the subsequent siege and attacks by Israel have destroyed lives, industry and infrastructure. With the percentage of the population relying directly on food aid increasing from 60 percent to 80 percent in the past three years and unemployment at an all-time high, it is obvious that the children of Gaza are “superfluous’’ not simply because they are born, but because of what they are born into: a hell in a prison controlled from the outside by Israel.
Yet Kramer knows full well that Israel is laying siege to Gaza. In fact, he goes on to support it. The siege, he argued in his speech, can “break Gaza’s runaway population growth - and there is some evidence that they have - that may begin to crack the culture of martyrdom which demands a constant supply of superfluous young men.’’
The fact that Kramer fails to make the connection between Israeli policies and the conditions that lead to economic “superfluousness’’ undergirds his logical and analytical ineptitude. This, coupled with the racist and offensive nature of his comments, should push decision makers at Harvard University to reconsider whether it should be affiliated with such individuals.
Had Kramer’s comments been about any other group, as described in the opening paragraph, Harvard might have already terminated his fellowship.
By Yousef Munayyer
March 3, 2010
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e...icles/2010/03/03/gazas_youth_not_superfluous/
