Israeli-Palestinian conflict (41 Viewers)

[Fred]

Oh, hooray for that. How generous.



I'm not advocating it, and would never suggest such a policy, but unfortunately it is the truth. The only way there will be peace in the Middle East is if nobody lived there anymore.

That's cold, harsh, but true reality of the situation. Thousands of years is a testament to it's factuality.

Thats like saying lets just ethnically cleanse black people in the US. That way we'll get the crime rates down drastically.

I don't think you really mean it, because i know you're a really intelligent guy. But i don't understand what you expect of people who are occupied. Do they just stay quiet and let the occupier do whatever he likes?

It might not be right celebrating the death of anyone. But do not make this look like the CIA agents that died were innocent people, they were part of an occupying army, the risk that they might get killed was always there and it was justified too.

 

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[Fred]

I thought you were just joking and Nakazawa is an expression or something

I gotta tell Seven about your mistake.

[Logging on MSN]......

Damn Japanese names.

 

[Bjerknes]

Andy, I love your long blonde hair but I have a thing for fat men.



When did anyone do Nakazawa on anyone?

I could always gain a few pounds for you, honey buns. :flirt:

 

[ReBeL]

Your avatar was so cool Reb btw

Reb, where was your avatar from btw ? Jeez, every time I hear avatar now, I think of the Na'vi

Don't make me regret removing it. Hell. I even don't have it anywhere else, so I can not reuse it again ever

Eddy, I have no idea where I got it from. I've been using it since more than a year.

 

[Bjerknes]

Thats like saying lets just ethnically cleanse black people in the US. That way we'll get the crime rates down drastically.

I don't think you really mean it, because i know you're a really intelligent guy. But i don't understand what you expect of people who are occupied. Do they just stay quiet and let the occupier do whatever he likes?

It might not be right celebrating the death of anyone. But do not make this look like the CIA agents that died were innocent people, they were part of an occupying army, the risk that they might get killed was always there and it was justified too.

I understand that, but when you hit the streets chanting "death to America", celebrating the deaths of human beings, it looks really bad. Occupying force or not, it looks horrible. And at times folks in the Mid East celebrate deaths even when the dead individuals had nothing to do with their plight or existence whatsoever. Just look at the reaction to 9/11, or Muhammed's hilarious Danish cartoon.

It's not me painting a poor picture of folks from the Mid East. They paint that picture themselves to the under-educated Western individual. It's not my problem until the bombs head home and target me, as if I need more crosshairs located on me, an individual who questions 9/11, hates central bankers, can correctly spell the capitals and names of other countries, and loves the non-American game of football.

And my comments regarding the Middle East are not what I promote, but rather just the truth of the matter. If it was not true, we would have had peace in the region at one point in time.

 

[Fred]

I understand that, but when you hit the streets chanting "death to America", celebrating the deaths of human beings, it looks really bad. Occupying force or not, it looks horrible. And at times folks in the Mid East celebrate deaths even when the dead individuals had nothing to do with their plight or existence whatsoever. Just look at the reaction to 9/11, or Muhammed's hilarious Danish cartoon.

It's not me painting a poor picture of folks from the Mid East. They paint that picture themselves to the under-educated Western individual. It's not my problem until the bombs head home and target me, as if I need more crosshairs located on me, an individual who questions 9/11, hates central bankers, can correctly spell the capitals and names of other countries, and loves the non-American game of football.

And my comments regarding the Middle East are not what I promote, but rather just the truth of the matter. If it was not true, we would have had peace in the region at one point in time.

Anybody who supported or celebrated 9/11 is an idiot of the worst sort that deserves to die himself.

Also i understand that you would be annoyed that some people celebrate the death of US troops, celebrating the death of another human being is never good. What i meant to say, is that the CIA agents killed in Afghanistan, were not civilians, they were part of an occupying force and were killed in "the battlefield". I mean you don't come to occupy a country and not expect resistance.

9/11 is a completely different case. That was the death of innocent civilians, and that should never be accepted at all. I like you was disgusted by the people who took the streets to celebrate it. Those people indeed paint a terrible picture of the middle east and just goes to show how uneducated and ignorant people can be.

 

[Enron]

Good, then next time you plan on occupying some country make sure they don't have that culture. But it seems to me that wherever the US army goes some strange blow up festevil starts. From Japan during WWII to Korea and Vietnam..
There's also Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and last but not least Yaman. You're like fucking magnetics man!

Bro you really need a fucking history lesson man.

 

[Enron]

Anybody who supported or celebrated 9/11 is an idiot of the worst sort that deserves to die himself.

Also i understand that you would be annoyed that some people celebrate the death of US troops, celebrating the death of another human being is never good. What i meant to say, is that the CIA agents killed in Afghanistan, were not civilians, they were part of an occupying force and were killed in "the battlefield". I mean you don't come to occupy a country and not expect resistance.

9/11 is a completely different case. That was the death of innocent civilians, and that should never be accepted at all. I like you was disgusted by the people who took the streets to celebrate it. Those people indeed paint a terrible picture of the middle east and just goes to show how uneducated and ignorant people can be.

When CIA field agents sign on to do their duty, they accept that death is a likely outcome should they be captured or discovered while on a mission. So it's not really that big of a deal.

It's like when police sign up to protect and serve their communities. That may one day require being shot at.

 

[king Ale]

I could always gain a few pounds for you, honey buns. :flirt:

As much as it sounds tempting to me, but you need to be a girl to understand how it's impossible not to be lured by someone like Alen.

I understand that, but when you hit the streets chanting "death to America", celebrating the deaths of human beings, it looks really bad. Occupying force or not, it looks horrible. And at times folks in the Mid East celebrate deaths even when the dead individuals had nothing to do with their plight or existence whatsoever. Just look at the reaction to 9/11, or Muhammed's hilarious Danish cartoon.

It's not me painting a poor picture of folks from the Mid East. They paint that picture themselves to the under-educated Western individual. It's not my problem until the bombs head home and target me, as if I need more crosshairs located on me, an individual who questions 9/11, hates central bankers, can correctly spell the capitals and names of other countries, and loves the non-American game of football.

And my comments regarding the Middle East are not what I promote, but rather just the truth of the matter. If it was not true, we would have had peace in the region at one point in time.

Very well said Andy.

It's wonderful how you ruined your "objective" and "wise" image only by objecting to people celebrating your people' deaths. Let them burn your flag, let them shout death to America ... You have to stay objective

 

[Fred]

When CIA field agents sign on to do their duty, they accept that death is a likely outcome should they be captured or discovered while on a mission. So it's not really that big of a deal.

It's like when police sign up to protect and serve their communities. That may one day require being shot at.

No its not the same thing at all actually.

 

[Enron]

No its not the same thing at all actually.

Sure it is. It's the requirements of the job. Think on it a moment.

I gave two different examples to show the same point. While the duties of police officers are not exactly the same of CIA agents, both jobs require placing one's body in a certain amount of danger. While the dangers are not on the same level, there is an expectation that you will encounter some sort of danger.

 

[Eddy]

When CIA field agents sign on to do their duty, they accept that death is a likely outcome should they be captured or discovered while on a mission. So it's not really that big of a deal.

It's like when police sign up to protect and serve their communities. That may one day require being shot at.

That's a pretty bad example bro, the CIA are trained to hunt and kill people or ilegally get information while the police's job is " to protect and serve"

 

[Fred]

Sure it is. It's the requirements of the job. Think on it a moment.

I gave two different examples to show the same point. While the duties of police officers are not exactly the same of CIA agents, both jobs require placing one's body in a certain amount of danger. While the dangers are not on the same level, there is an expectation that you will encounter some sort of danger.

Yes thats true. But when you're a CIA agent operating in an occupying force in an occupied land, the risk that you might get shot doubles and becomes more justified.

Its a battlefield casualty, its not just some random innocent civilian dying. That was my point.

 

[Alen]

As much as it sounds tempting to me, but you need to be a girl to understand how it's impossible not to be lured by someone like Alen.

I'm not a girl and I also know that it's impossible not to be lured by someone like me.
Anyway, I'm registering another win in a macho fight for a girl. My first win on the internet, though

 

[Eddy]

Yes thats true. But when you're a CIA agent operating in an occupying force in an occupied land, the risk that you might get shot doubles and becomes more justified.

Its a battlefield casualty, its not just some random innocent civilian dying. That was my point.

Yep, that sounds about right

 

[Enron]

Yes thats true. But when you're a CIA agent operating in an occupying force in an occupied land, the risk that you might get shot doubles and becomes more justified.

Its a battlefield casualty, its not just some random innocent civilian dying. That was my point.

No not justified. Justification doesn't come into play.

It's more of an inevitability.

We have a saying "When you play with fire, you tend to get burned".

Now if they had blown up 7 civilians, its a different story.

 

[Enron]

That's a pretty bad example bro, the CIA are trained to hunt and kill people or ilegally get information while the police's job is " to protect and serve"

OMG. You guys are way too unilateral in your thinking. I said that the danger is not the same, yet it still exists and is inherent (known) before signing up.

To get my post, pretend your watching two television shows.

 

[Eddy]

OMG. You guys are way too unilateral in your thinking. I said that the danger is not the same, yet it still exists and is inherent (known) before signing up.

To get my post, pretend your watching two television shows.

But we already know this..

 

[Enron]

But we already know this..

Right, that's why I expanded on Fred's post in the first place.

 

[Eddy]

Right, that's why I expanded on Fred's post in the first place.

At the end of the day, a soldier killed in action is more justified than a civilian killed in action just like you said, it would be a whole different story.