Israeli-Palestinian conflict (64 Viewers)

[Enron]

OK, so this isn't a genocide then.

That must mean it's just an unfortunate mistake that so many innocent people have died, which is why Israeli spokesmen always claim, "we are sorry for the innocent loss of life."

I guess this is why it will continue, too.

You're missing the point. This could very well be a genocide, sure. But I don't know that and you don't know that, because we can't prove the Israelis are systematically killing Palestinians.

What people should be upset about is that the conflict has been allowed to go on for this long by the international community. The same same way other conflicts are allowed to continue in other parts of the world.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Remember when one of the US ships was sunk before the 6 Day War, and people tried to accuse Egypt of destroying it? Some historians believe Israel was behind those attacks as well.

 

[Enron]

So then what's wrong with saying the IDF is a terrorist organization?

Nothing, then you also have to call Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations as well as just about every other country, lobby, bank conglomerate, and political entity in the world.

 

[Wings]

Call me biased but I voted no to all three - If someone casts out a people from their homes & lock them up in a confined zone just so that they can establish a state then what outcome do you expect? To add insult to injury they kill a few thousands every few years & destroy as much as they can. What reaction do people really expect?

 

[Bjerknes]

You're missing the point. This could very well be a genocide, sure. But I don't know that and you don't know that, because we can't prove the Israelis are systematically killing Palestinians.

What people should be upset about is that the conflict has been allowed to go on for this long by the international community. The same same way other conflicts are allowed to continue in other parts of the world.

Depends on what you mean by systematically. The statistics show that it is rather systematic.

 

[Bjerknes]

Nothing, then you also have to call Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations as well as just about every other country, lobby, bank conglomerate, and political entity in the world.

Fair enough. But people can see who the greater terrorist happens to be.

 

[Enron]

good for you
keep repeating your self for another 42 times and then i will come back to u

maybe not

So you believe all muslims, jews, and minorities should be wiped of the face of the earth so the white man can be prosperous? Are you illiterate or just simple?

I've heard of an Uncle Tom, but you sir are the first Uncle Jim Bob I've ever seen.

"When I see an elephant fly..."

 

[ReBeL]

just like palestine or any other arab country sans oil

No comment.

Rebel are you just trying to provoke Seven just so he gets banned later?

Why is Belgium all of the sudden "gay". Is it the illicit relationship it once had with France?

He keeps mentioning his country's name as if it has any weight in the world politics. He just has to know he lives in a country that can't have any impact at all internationally. The time when his king was killing Africans before decades went with time and nobody remembers the Belgian colonies for anything but exploiting the original people of many African countries.

 

[Enron]

Fair enough. But people can see who the greater terrorist happens to be.

Yes of course, that is for each to judge himself. But do you see, why I'm so turned off at the careless throwing around of such words?

 

[Enron]

He keeps mentioning his country's name as if it has any weight in the world politics. He just has to know he lives in a country that can't have any impact at all internationally. The time when his king was killing Africans before decades went with time and nobody remembers the Belgian colonies for anything but exploiting the original people of many African countries.

Belgium is one of the few European countries that have made any attempt to help the situation in Gaza. To each his own I guess.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yes of course, that is for each to judge himself. But do you see, why I'm so turned off at the careless throwing around of such words?

Senseless quarrels over what words mean cost people a lot, sometimes even their lives.

 

[Enron]

Depends on what you mean by systematically. The statistics show that it is rather systematic.

Statistics don't show intent. They show trends.

 

[BlanquiNegro]

I think many Arabs think that the Jews are allowed to do these massacres because of the holocaust. You know, the West owes the Jews at least this much.
Many Zionists probably think the same way, which is of course wrong way of thinking.

Denying the holocaust and proving that it didn't happen, will prove that the Jews have no right to do what they're doing and the West doesn't owes the Jews anything.
This is also a wrong way of thinking, and is very naive, but sadly i think that's exactly the reason why they're denying it.

Here we go again
We r denying it becaue of that
If Jews are right about their Holocaust they are bitching of every single second
How could they do the same thing to Palestinians?
Because they don't know what is the meaning of being a father watching the corps of his own very belove daughter eaten by dogs for 4 days after she got killed deliberately ,no doubts, by Israeli sniper

They have not been through Holocaust in the way they are lying to the whole world

Simply they don't know how ugly and painful it is, and thats why we deny it and will keep it so

 

[Dostoevsky]

He keeps mentioning his country's name as if it has any weight in the world politics. He just has to know he lives in a country that can't have any impact at all internationally.

That might be so but there's no reason to attack him like you're trying I guess.You know how can he react and it's your true attention.To get him banned and nothing else.Since I don't think you want to discuss about history of Belgium or to talk about it's international level.

 

[Bjerknes]

Statistics don't show intent. They show trends.

When the population goes to zero can that prove intent then?

This nonsense is exactly why the killing continues.

But you have got to hand it to Israel. They're so adept at using words to cover up their true plans.

 

[Enron]

Senseless quarrels over what words mean cost people a lot, sometimes even their lives.

Not really, it's not as if discussing the meaning of the word terrorist has any effect on the conflict in Gaza. We just discussed the word terrorist and its overapplication for ten minutes. So everyone in Gaza who died during that ten minutes is our fault?

Dude, we are college youth, we are supposed to argue over stuff like this. Because the misuse of words such as terrorist by people who have supposedly become enlightened during their education is what kills people.

 

[ReBeL]

Belgium is one of the few European countries that have made any attempt to help the situation in Gaza. To each his own I guess.

They did nothing.

 

[Bjerknes]

Not really, it's not as if discussing the meaning of the word terrorist has any effect on the conflict in Gaza. We just discussed the word terrorist and its overapplication for ten minutes. So everyone in Gaza who died during that ten minutes is our fault?

Dude, we are college youth, we are supposed to argue over stuff like this. Because the misuse of words such as terrorist by people who have supposedly become enlightened during their education is what kills people.

No, but the quarrels over the meaning of words at places such as the UN cost people their lives. I think we should just call it what it is, which is a systematic killing of a people.

 

[Enron]

When the population goes to zero can that prove intent then?

This nonsense is exactly why the killing continues.

But you have got to hand it to Israel. They're so adept at using words to cover up their true plans.

Statistics show a lot of people getting killed. High casualty levels are sometimes evidence of a systematic killing, but they are not the only evidence. We all know that. But what we obviously don't know is that it doesn't matter. Genocide or not it needs to stop.

The reason the killing continues is because the rest of the world just doesn't care anymore. It doesn't matter if it is a genocide or not. People don't get that. The situation is bad, but why does it have to be the worst possible scenario before anyone does anything?

 

[Enron]

They did nothing.

And you like that.