Israeli-Palestinian conflict (70 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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Jul 2, 2006
19,448
What the hell is wrong with you people? You don't even have an idea what you're talking about. The amount of evidence collected by historians and lawyers is huge. And it should be. Millions of people died.

And if they didn't die according to you, where the hell did they go? Millions of Europeans vanished into thin air? Give me one other rational explanation for this strange event.

I don't know where you get this stuff, but the education in your countries must be of a very poor level. There's only one thing you can do to win this discussion Turk:

try to dismiss the evidence of the Nazi horror put forward during the Nuremberg trials.
nuremberg trials?

Winner is always right

Participants

Major-General Iona Nikitchenko (Soviet main)
Lieutenant-Colonel Alexander Volchkov (Soviet alternate)
Rt. Hon. Col. Sir Geoffrey Lawrence (British main and president)
Sir Norman Birkett (British alternate)
Francis Biddle (US main)
John Parker (US alternate)
Professor Henri Donnedieu de Vabres (French main)
Robert Falco (French alternate)

anyway, that was a good way to hide dresden bombardment, stalin's massacres against his own people etc. did you heard David İrving?
 

CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
nuremberg trials?

Winner is always right

Participants

Major-General Iona Nikitchenko (Soviet main)
Lieutenant-Colonel Alexander Volchkov (Soviet alternate)
Rt. Hon. Col. Sir Geoffrey Lawrence (British main and president)
Sir Norman Birkett (British alternate)
Francis Biddle (US main)
John Parker (US alternate)
Professor Henri Donnedieu de Vabres (French main)
Robert Falco (French alternate)

anyway, that was a good way hide dresden bombardment, stalin's massacres against his own people etc. did you heard David İrving?

Yeah, I know David Irving. But he helps my argument, not yours ;).

He's the guy who said the Holocaust didn't exist, but then said that it did.

And I know, the winner is always right, but look at the amount of evidence, TURK, just look at the amount of evidence.
 

BlanquiNegro

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2006
949
Please don't deny the holocaust, you guys are really losing what ever credentials you have.
We r denying the 6 millions
Our sources say its not more than 30.000

We r denying the cares about the Jews who got killed in that war like there was no any other got killed as well during the same war

few thousands of them got killed during that war
and the Jews magnified it and added several zeros to the total number and kept blackmailing the whole world with it

that's my personal believes
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Same thing here
Admiting Holocaust :rofl2:
Ok, since i have absolutely no desire to argue with you on this one, because i think i have a bigger chance to convince this keyboard in front of me than to convince you, i decided not to be modest and say this :

CheScifo is from Belgium. Not a Jew, not a Muslim. More neutral about this issue than the jews and the muslims. He is a historian, with a diploma.
I am from Croatia. Not a Jew, not a Muslim. More neutral about this issue than the jews and the muslims. I am a historian, with a diploma.

You are from an Arab country. Muslim. You are a broker in your local stock market.
Turk is from Turkey. Muslim. I think he recently finished high school, but i'm not sure.

Since the holocaust is a historical issue that happened to the jews who are hated by the muslims, i think the chances of you and turk knowing more about it than me and Andries and the chances of you two looking at it neutrally are equal to......hmmmm.....i'd say 0%.
 

CheSchifo!

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2009
642
We r denying the 6 millions
Our sources say its not more than 30.000

We r denying the cares about the Jews who got killed in that war like there was no any other got kileed as well during the same war

few thousands of them got killed during that war
and the Jews magnified it and added several zeros to the total number and kept blackmailing the whole world with it

that's my personal believes
Then your personal belief is dead wrong. Which sources exactly are you talking about? And what's your explanation for that many people disappearing? Where did they go? And why did we find concentration camps?
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,448
I am behind my words,there are good amount counter evidences about it too.you can find them with a little effort. but i will quit this argument about ''holocaust'' because i don't want to sound like a nazi.their mentality is against everything I believe.i can't defend their crimes.i can't be antisemitic too because my religion is against every racist movement.if you're a muslim you can't judge a human because of his race.

this is what i say

zionism is worse than nazism.zionism has a role in nazi actions.''holocaust'' is manipulated and used by them.
And yes their aim is world domination.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
doesn't matter if it was 30 thousand, 6 million or 60 billion...being murdered for following your religion is a heinous crime...
True that it's a crime, but the way you put there is no difference between 1 such death and 6 million such deaths, which isn't exactly right.

Someone says there were 30 000 Jews killed. I think i can find old men in Zagreb who knew 60% of these 30 000 because 18 000 Jews from Croatia disappeared from the face of the earth during the WWII.
 

BlanquiNegro

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2006
949
Ok, since i have absolutely no desire to argue with you on this one, because i think i have a bigger chance to convince this keyboard in front of me than to convince you, i decided not to be modest and say this :

CheScifo is from Belgium. Not a Jew, not a Muslim. More neutral about this issue than the jews and the muslims. He is a historian, with a diploma.
I am from Croatia. Not a Jew, not a Muslim. More neutral about this issue than the jews and the muslims. I am a historian, with a diploma.

You are from an Arab country. Muslim. You are a broker in your local stock market.
Turk is from Turkey. Muslim. I think he recently finished high school, but i'm not sure.

Since the holocaust is a historical issue that happened to the jews who are hated by the muslims, i think the chances of you and turk knowing more about it than me and Andries and the chances of you two looking at it neutrally are equal to......hmmmm.....i'd say 0%.
Well we have our historians as well
Please dont ask me to beleive it just becsue you and him are historians
and think accordingly that you know better than the rest

We have our historians, writers etc
and we trust them
what i said regarding this is not my personal openion but its what i heared and beleive from a trustfull sources , our sources not yours

BTW
there are Jews denying it as well

Ok, since i have absolutely no desire to argue with you on this one, because i think i have a bigger chance to convince this keyboard in front of me than to convince you
Its not about convincing me dear
its about convincing the other side , the side which is not allowed to say the truth from their point of view in your media

its not me alone in this , trust me
 

BlanquiNegro

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2006
949
Then your personal belief is dead wrong. Which sources exactly are you talking about? And what's your explanation for that many people disappearing? Where did they go? And why did we find concentration camps?
I gave you one link
Its a site with some interesting statics and facts
whether its right or wrong ,you didn't even spend more than three min and came back to say its ridiculous
you didn't read a single word
i was just testing you BTW and you failed
so what is the point in giving you any other thing as long as u blindly believe in what u believe no matter what

so lets stop it here and turn to another issue
becaue its obvious now as Allen said
Its easier for you to convince your keyboard than convincing me
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
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    Alen, you can say whatever you want about the case because you are a historian that was confirmed to know what you are talking about many times in this forum and you never insulted Islam, but saying that Seven is neutral about Muslims is just stupid.

    He waits for anything since he joined his forum to attack Islam and Muslims. He made fun of our prophet many times. I don't ask you to punish him because I don't really care about his penalty in a forum, but I can't keep silent when you say he is neutral regarding Islam.

    And by the way, he is the most hypocrite creature I ever saw in this forum.
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
    54,023
    i think my chance is higher than 0% as both andries, you and me are talking about what we heard and read.we did not see what actually happened.
    Ok, lets try it this way.
    There is a census from Croatia before WWII that says 23 000 Jews lived here. The census after WWII says that 5 000 Jews lived here.
    There are personal diaries of non-Jewish Croats, memoirs, where they're telling us how those Jews from the cities were taken from their homes, and no-one knew where. People are narating how their best friends, who happened to be Jewish, were taken one day and they never heard from them anymore. They were friends for 20 years and they never heard a word from them afterwards.
    And not one guy, but many people wrote about this. They wrote what they saw, sometimes the same thing, sometimes not, but they all write about it.
    There are video and audio files of the Croatian ministers (they were with the Nazi) saying how we must solve the Jewish question once and for all. They were using the same vocabulary Hitler and the Nazi were using.
    There were concentration camps in Croatia. What for?

    Actually, there are thousands of documents in the Croatian archives and libraries about the holocaust in Croatia. Original documents writen during WWII.
    Do you seriously think that it was a Jewish conspiracy and all these documents are falsificates?

    No Turk, more than 18 000 Croat Jews disappeared during WWII. We all have grandparents here who knew at least 10 of these Jews. They lived together with them and never heard from them anymore after they were taken.

    If you really think that nothing happened to them and that only 30 000 Jews were killed during WWII, then this is the last from me here because i see no point in discussing it with you.
     

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