Israeli-Palestinian conflict (37 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

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  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    I love how this UN idiot, Pokemon, in each Arab country he goes to he finds the same chant by crowds:

    يا بوكيمون يا بوكيمون، على قراراتك ما بتمون​
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    Welcome, Micro...

    Thanks, Michael Heart:


    Anyway, doctors in Shefaa Hospital said today that Israel has just started to use a new weapon that makes the injured person smells a very strange smell, and doctors are worried about their own lives because of this smell. It maybe chemical weapons.
     

    Micro

    New Member
    Jan 17, 2009
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    And Europe of course. Mighty damn shame, because we all know which countries really control international politics.

    Alen, I think only historians can grasp the relativity of the "I was there first" argument. It's not just to throw out Jews who have been living in Israel all their lives.

    @Senor: the argument about the native population of America still holds. If you're so keen on this, ALL of the US should go back to them.
    There are no countries
    Its USA only
    They are controlling everything and your Europe is included

    Living in Israel all their lives?
    Israel existed in 1967. Are you aware of that?
    This is what i call SELF CONTRINDICATION

    And just to correct you
    There was nothing called State of Israel before 1948
    so don't try to make the tow things the same
    Living their is an issue and stealing the land and claiming its yours is something different
    And for your information, the Jews lived under Muslims ruling era in all the Islamic territories but never had their own state
    They lived in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, Morocco for example but that doesn't mean that they have the right to claim that all that places simply belong to them and have all the rights to build their own state over it
    and by the way they lived in that part of the world in peace until 1948

    I have to ask you this
    what was the population of Jews lived in Palestine all their lives before 1948?
    and what was their percentage out of the total population that time as well?
     

    Ahmed

    Principino
    Sep 3, 2006
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    Both sides have made it into a religious hate conflict though. No denying in that.
    I won't say that is completely true...Religion is the only thing that gives solace to the people involved in the conflict, so it comes to the surface more than anything else...but if it was only about Religion, you wouldn't have Arabs of other religions being so vocal about it
     

    Micro

    New Member
    Jan 17, 2009
    19
    Welcome, Micro...

    Thanks, Michael Heart:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2lk2EEXOak

    Anyway, doctors in Shefaa Hospital said today that Israel has just started to use a new weapon that makes the injured person smells a very strange smell, and doctors are worried about their own lives because of this smell. It maybe chemical weapons.
    No surprises
    USA is the source of that kind of weapons
    They used it in Iraq And Afghanistan
    so why not using it in Palestine?
    There are no moral limits, no redlines
    They are terrorists just kill them all

    This is the real identification of the american democracy when it comes to Muslims part of the world
     

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
    Moderator
    Dec 16, 2003
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    I love how this UN idiot, Pokemon, in each Arab country he goes to he finds the same chant by crowds:

    يا بوكيمون يا بوكيمون، على قراراتك ما بتمون​
    :lol2:
     

    Micro

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    Jan 17, 2009
    19
    Hey, as long as you people keep focussing on this, you're making Israel stronger. Europe, the US and Israel all know that Israel isn't going anywhere. If your sole claim is that all Israelis should leave, you're going to lose this conflict. And lose badly.

    A far better objective would be to demonstrate that the behaviour of Israel, in the state itself and in Gaza is unacceptable and that measures should be taken to drastically improve the quality of life of all Palestinians. That's an objective you can reach, you see.
    What is making Israel stronger is not what you said up there
    its because USA is always their to insure that Israel has the superiority

    you know
    Just imagine what will happen if both sides left alone to face eachoter and to solve their own problems by themselves
    I can assure you that there will be no war
    Once Israel realized that they are alone in this i am sure the media will be full of Images and Clips of Jews collecting their panties and running out of Palestine

    Unfortunately it will never happen, for time being at least
     

    Micro

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    Jan 17, 2009
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    Honestly Poll killing me.. Hamas is a Terrorist Organization without doubt.. The only one i cant understand.. Is that arabic ppl HERE on juventuz.com vote "no" only coz they are arabic - not coz they really understand the situation..
    According to?
    From wiki
    Terrorism is the systematic use of terror.[clarification needed][1] At present, there is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism

    I am sure that they didn't know that there is someone who could identifys it without doubts

    The situation is simple
    An Arabic land stolen by Zionists and will be back to its original owners one day
     

    Micro

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    CheSchifo!

    Senior Member
    Jan 11, 2009
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    What is making Israel stronger is not what you said up there
    its because USA is always their to insure that Israel has the superiority

    you know
    Just imagine what will happen if both sides left alone to face eachoter and to solve their own problems by themselves
    I can assure you that there will be no war
    Once Israel realized that they are alone in this i am sure the media will be full of Images and Clips of Jews collecting their panties and running out of Palestine

    Unfortunately it will never happen, for time being at least
    Do you really think that if no one else would be allowed to enter into the conflict that the Palestinians would win? They wouldn't stand a chance.
     

    Vinman

    2013 Prediction Cup Champ
    Jul 16, 2002
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    no we were talking about 1967 borders peace which the whole arab world, along with hamas mind you, are calling for.
    no....Hamas is calling for the destruction of Israel, remember ??

    Jack, this is Times today.

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    Hezbollah plots bloody vengeance


    Israel’s bloody offensive in Gaza may be drawing to a close but there were growing fears last night that a new conflict may be looming with Hamas’s ally in Lebanon, Hezbollah.

    Nearly a year after suspected Israeli agents assassinated Imad Mughniyeh, the group’s military commander, sources on both sides of the Israeli-Lebanese border predict renewed conflict. The Shia militant fighter, credited with transforming his troops into one of the world’s most effective irregular armies, passed on to Hamas in Gaza some of the tactics that enabled Hezbollah to battle the Israeli army to a standstill in south Lebanon in 2006.

    Hezbollah has vowed to avenge Mughniyeh’s death in a car bomb blast in Damascus on February 13 and, with the first anniversary coming up, Israel fears an imminent attack.

    The Israelis have reason to be concerned. Speaking two weeks ago, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, said: “The Zionists will discover that the war they had in July \ was a walk in the park if we compare it to what we’ve prepared for every new aggression.”

    The Times has learnt that at least one attack was foiled in Azerbaijan weeks after Mughniyeh’s assassination when Azeri Intelligence discovered a plot to blow up the Israeli Embassy there. Recently, intelligence sources say, Egypt broke up an alleged Hezbollah cell in the Sinai headed by a Lebanese citizen, Sami Shehab, which included Palestinians and was planning to attack Israeli targets.

    There are concerns that Hezbollah, operating through its external security organisation, is planning further attacks on Israeli or Jewish targets outside Israel. Hezbollah’s ‘1800 Unit’ is said to be working on possible attacks inside Israel.

    Hezbollah has avenged past Israeli assassinations of its leaders. In February 1992 Israeli helicopter gunships attacked the motorcade of Sheikh Abbas Mussawi, then Hezbollah leader, killing him along with his wife and five-year-old son. A month later the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires was blown up by a suicide car bomber in an attack allegedly planned by Mughniyeh himself.

    “We will retaliate because the Sayyed made that promise,” Abu Hassan, commander of a 25-man Hezbollah squad, told The Times, referring to Sheikh Nasrallah. “The Israelis have killed our leaders in the past but we have always grown stronger. Nothing can shake Hezbollah.”

    Analysts believe that the retaliation will be planned carefully and executed at a time of the group’s choosing.

    “This was never going to be a tit-for-tat immediate response but a strategic retaliation, one that will take time,” said Amal Saad-Ghorayeb, a Lebanese expert on Hezbollah. Some expected a response during Israel’s three-week assault on Gaza, which has killed at least 1,100 Palestinians. Hezbollah did put its forces on alert and some rockets were fired from south Lebanon by unknown militants but so far the response has been limited to street protests and rhetoric.

    Nevertheless, the group said that it would seek revenge. “The account is known and it is a large one. Revenge is coming from us and from others,” Nawaf Mussawi, in charge of Hezbollah’s foreign relations, said.

    Lebanon holds a general election in June when Hezbollah and its political allies are well placed to form the new parliamentary majority. The replacement of the current Western-backed Government with one dominated by Hezbollah’s allies will relieve some of the pressure the group faces to dismantle its military wing. Triggering a fresh war with Israel for the sake of Hamas could however backfire at the polls.

    One option open to Hezbollah is to help to rebuild Hamas. “The symbol of Hamas as a resistance is now far greater in the Arab world than before,” said Mr Mussawi.

    Ibrahim al-Amine, of Lebanon’s Al-Akhbar newspaper and a confidant of Sheikh Nasrallah, wrote last week that up until his death Mughniyeh was obsessed with the idea of passing on Hezbollah’s military secrets to Hamas.

    Dozens of Palestinian fighters travelled to Lebanon, Syria and Iran for training, he wrote. Mughniyeh taught Hamas that communications was a strategic weapon. Hezbollah has installed a complex internal communications system, including a fibre-optic landline network, linking its military bases and command centres.

    The military assistance to Hamas apparently continued after Mughniyeh’s assassination. A European intelligence source told The Times that two Iranian teams, including communications and rocket specialists, were working with Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza last summer.

    Hamas reportedly has constructed a network of war bunkers in Gaza similar to those built by Hezbollah in south Lebanon before the 2006 war.

    Hezbollah has built new lines of defence farther north, extending to its heartland in the northern Bekaa Valley. Hundreds, possibly thousands, of volunteers have been recruited.

    Israeli officials say that Hezbollah has tripled the number of rockets in its arsenal since 2006. Hezbollah fighters have hinted that in the next war Shia militants could launch commando raids inside Israel.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5533205.ece

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    God be with Hamas and Hezbollah.
    so, Andy and the rest of the propaganda machine here are probably incorrect, it will be Hezbollah who engages the Israeli's , which I stated before

    Jack, after reading this article, I would cancel your trip :frown:

    If Hezbollah really steps in do you think USA is going to something about it?
    we wont get into that conflict...besies, Israel can take care of Hezbollah all by themselves

    They are already participating in the conflict, but you may mean using American fighters to bomb Hezbollah in Lebanon. No??
    they bought our planes, so how are we in the conflict...are there American fighter pilots flying those planes ??

    i really hope lebanon doesnt get dragged into this
    get dragged into it ?? Read the article that ReBeL posted, the ever-loving Hezbollah losers are salivating at the opportunity to fight with Israel again

    How the protesters closed the Israeli consulate in San Fransisco on Thursday:











    who let the lunatics out of their padded cells ?? :p

    No surprises
    USA is the source of that kind of weapons
    They used it in Iraq And Afghanistanso why not using it in Palestine?
    There are no moral limits, no redlines
    They are terrorists just kill them all

    This is the real identification of the american democracy when it comes to Muslims part of the world
    prove that statement, and if you cant than kindly STFU !!!
     

    Osman

    Koul Khara!
    Aug 30, 2002
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    So they are lunatics for peacefully protesting against massacres? In a world so powerless no one can do zip to stop it except simply protest (and the world is so powerless to do anything because of the govt of these protesters). They are more lunatics then those doing the massacring?
     

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