Israeli-Palestinian conflict (97 Viewers)

[BlanquiNegro]

That's weird. Let's assume Israel is strong and therefore hasn't given up on religion. Then why should they bow to the will of those Islamic countries who have given up on theirs? This sort of thinking would almost point to the Jews in Israel being God's chosen people.

Which is an odd thing for a muslim to say.

And who are you to say that the Islamic countries gave up their religion?
And to let you know that we the Muslims believe that they were the chosen PPL
were not are , not anymore

Again talk about what you know because what are saying doesn't make any sense for us

 

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[CheSchifo!]

And who are you to say that the Islamic countries gave up their religion?
And to let you know that we the Muslims believe that they were the chosen PPL
were not are , not anymore

Again talk about what you know because what are saying doesn't make any sense for us

I'm not the one who said they gave up on religion. Turk was.

And I know it doesn't make sense to you, but all my arguments have had logical grounds. You shout the world doesn't accept Israel, I say the UN does. I come up with cold, hard facts. You don't.

 

[Enron]

That is what they call themselves.
There is nothing called Islamic countries - %100 agree

What about when DJs in Dubai get fired for making jokes about Mohammed? Is that not a sign of an Islamic nation?

 

[Bjerknes]

The UN does accept Israel and will let them commit war crime after war crime.

Take the religious stuff out of this thread as the real Jews tend to be anti-Zionist anyway.

 

[BlanquiNegro]

Let's not fall over semantics here. The main issue is that it's absolutely ridiculous for some countries to attack Israel for violating human rights. Israel shouldn't do so, but Iran definitely shouldn't complain about it.

Although I know they are useless to the Islamic world
Why Iran?
Why they dont have the right to complain about it?

Did they attack or occupy your country or any others?

Can you justify it?

 

[CheSchifo!]

What about when DJs in Dubai get fired for making jokes about Mohammed? Is that not a sign of an Islamic nation?

It's weird, but Turk is actually pretty cunning here. You see, he starts of with the basic idea that a country can misinterpret the true Islam. So if that country, even if it is under Islamic law, violates human rights, you can always say they misinterpret Islam and therefore they are not an Islamic nation.

Truly a masterpiece. It's incredible really. Based on this you could say that not only all human rights laws are applied in Islamic nations, but you could even claim that it's impossible to speak of an Islamic nation that might violate them.

Even though they are so obviously western values.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Although I know they are useless to the Islamic world
Why Iran?
Why they dont have the right to complain about it?

Did they attack or occupy your country or any others?

Can you justify it?

There are two possibilities for a state to violate human rights.

Either in your own country or in another. Iran is quite obviously guilty of the former.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

I'm not the one who said they gave up on religion. Turk was.

making alliance with israel and usa, turning your back to your people when they need your help,shitting on golden toilets,riding silver plated audi when your neighbours are dying because of poverty.it doesn't sound Islamic.yes, most of arab leaders gave up on their beliefs

 

[Enron]

It's weird, but Turk is actually pretty cunning here. You see, he starts of with the basic idea that a country can misinterpret the true Islam. So if that country, even if it is under Islamic law, violates human rights, you can always say they misinterpret Islam and therefore they are not an Islamic nation.

Truly a masterpiece.

He's being a cake eater. But he does have a point... Perhaps there is no true Islam.

Just like there is no true Christianity or Catholicism or Judaism. Perhaps there is no true religion. All there is here and now... There is no world outside of your own. I could go on.

 

[CheSchifo!]

making alliance with israel and usa, turning your back to your people when they need your help,shitting on golden toilets,riding silver plated audi when your neighbours are dying because of poverty.it doesn't sound Islamic.yes, most of arab leaders gave up on their beliefs

Do they really shit on golden toilets?

 

[CheSchifo!]

He's being a cake eater. But he does have a point... Perhaps there is no true Islam.

Just like there is no true Christianity or Catholicism or Judaism. Perhaps there is no true religion. All there is here and now... There is no world outside of your own. I could go on.

Yes. This is why his theory is bollocks. The fact that there is no one true Islam doesn't mean that the interpretations given of the Islam aren't Islamic.

 

[Enron]

Do they really shit on golden toilets?

I've heard stories that some of the Saudi Princes do.

 

[Enron]

Yes. This is why his theory is bollocks. The fact that there is no one true Islam doesn't mean that the interpretations given of the Islam aren't Islamic.

Hmm. True.

 

[CheSchifo!]

Hmm. True.

It's like they say in Blackadder:

Captain Blackadder: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

Private Baldrick: What was that, sir?

Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks ...

 

[BlanquiNegro]

I'm not the one who said they gave up on religion. Turk was.

And I know it doesn't make sense to you, but all my arguments have had logical grounds. You shout the world doesn't accept Israel, I say the UN does. I come up with cold, hard facts. You don't.

Says who?
You
Don't be silly

In my opinion all what have been saying about Israel is based on ignoring the historical part of it
State of Israel is something came to the surface 60y ago
what about before that
Which state was their first?
Its the State of Palestine
Israel is more powerful
Recognised as a state by the biggest joke called UN
Israel is a democratic state
all this bullshits doesn't give them the right to occupy Palestine and force its original own ppl to leave it or die on it
all this bullshit doesn't give them the right to slaughter the Palestinians with every single means
Siege
Starvation
refusing the returns right
All types of weapons specially the forbidden ones
Intentionally targeting the civilians specially the Kids and women

Its very simple
Israel has no rights to exist their in the heart of the Muslim's body
Where were they before 1916 and 1942?
Where have they been?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Yes. This is why his theory is bollocks. The fact that there is no one true Islam doesn't mean that the interpretations given of the Islam aren't Islamic.

don't twist my words.do not try to benefit from my lack of my grammar.There is one Islam and one Qouran.

This is what i say : Not even Iran is an example for Islamic country.Those countries are systematically corrupted by western world.

 

[BlanquiNegro]

There are two possibilities for a state to violate human rights.

Either in your own country or in another. Iran is quite obviously guilty of the former.

Again
Says who?
You

Don't make a joke out of yourself

When you accuse someone of something just make sure first that you can prove it
Any prove but not your media

 

[BlanquiNegro]

I've heard stories that some of the Saudi Princes do.

Exaggerated

Its not true

 

[Enron]

don't twist my words.do not try to benefit from my lack of my grammar.There is one Islam and one Qouran.

On a serious note. Which Islam do you consider to be true? The direct following of the Quran?

 

[CheSchifo!]

Says who?
You
Don't be silly

In my opinion all what have been saying about Israel is based on ignoring the historical part of it
State of Israel is something came to the surface 60y ago
what about before that
Which state was their first?
Its the State of Palestine
Israel is more powerful
Recognised as a state by the biggest joke called UN
Israel is a democratic state
all this bullshits doesn't give them the right to occupy Palestine and force its original own ppl to leave it or die on it
all this bullshit doesn't give them the right to slaughter the Palestinians with every single means
Siege
Starvation
refusing the returns right
All types of weapons specially the forbidden ones
Intentionally targeting the civilians specially the Kids and women

Its very simple
Israel has no rights to exist their in the heart of the Muslim's body
Where were they before 1916 and 1942?
Where have they been?

The Jews were there first. It is absolutely certain that it was Jewish in the ancient, Roman times. They're not the ones ignoring history. I don't know why people keep on doing this, but there have been Jews in Israel throughout history. But if only recent years count, why arbitrarily stop in 1948? We could stop in 2005 as well. That way one could argue that the Jews have been there for over 50 years, so the land must be theirs.