Israeli-Palestinian conflict (25 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

Take all the Palestinians and move them to US, give them jobs, shelter, and full citizenship rights, if Israel is so important to America and is subservient to their illegitimate demands.

i wouldn't be shocked if trump wass willing to stoop that low to serve his master

 

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[DAiDEViL]

According to a Jerusalem Post poll 80% of Israelis support Trump’s plan. Is that true @Tomice?

Wow. Would have never expected that.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why did "Bibi" gift Trump a pager?

 

[Vlad]

According to a Jerusalem Post poll 80% of Israelis support Trump’s plan. Is that true @Tomice?

Disgraceful but not surprising that a citizens of a terrorist state would approve a land grab.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Why did "Bibi" gift Trump a pager?

He gifted him 2 pagers: plata o plomo

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

He gifted him 2 pagers: plata o plomo

I wouldn't accept either lol

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I'd be down with the Jews being moved to Utah and the Palestinians to New Mexico. Then the whole of Palestina/Gaza is declared a UNESCO protected area for the 3 abrahamic religions with equal rights for pilgrimage. No settlements. Demolish all modern building.

I think Romania would be better than Utah, @kappa96 would be glad to host them. Maybe it'll calm him down a bit.

 

[Wings]

I'd be down with the Jews being moved to Utah and the Palestinians to New Mexico. Then the whole of Palestina/Gaza is declared a UNESCO protected area for the 3 abrahamic religions with equal rights for pilgrimage. No settlements. Demolish all modern building.

Quoting myself because I forgot to add Israel to be emptied and declared part of UNESCO protected area also.

 

[Enron]

Quoting myself because I forgot to add Israel to be emptied and declared part of UNESCO protected area also.

Oh, forgot to add that the Navajo Nation would probably get pissed too. Better to put one in North Dakota and the other in South Dakota. Lots of open ground, wilderness, not many cities. Very pretty though. Perfect.

 

[Wings]

Oh, forgot to add that the Navajo Nation would probably get pissed too. Better to put one in North Dakota and the other in South Dakota. Lots of open ground, wilderness, not many cities. Very pretty though. Perfect.

Perfect! All we need is some catchy 5 second TikTok presentation to pitch our idea.

 

[Post Ironic]

Anyone else notice that all the “from the river to the sea” and “genocide” protestors and university campus occupiers suddenly disappeared after Trump won the election? Almost as if a lot of bad faith actors were involved, trying to sway people from voting Democrat because they “supported genocide” whereas Trump would be great. How’s that working out for the Palestinians now?

@Bjerknes

 

[icemaη]

Anyone else notice that all the “from the river to the sea” and “genocide” protestors and university campus occupiers suddenly disappeared after Trump won the election? Almost as if a lot of bad faith actors were involved, trying to sway people from voting Democrat because they “supported genocide” whereas Trump would be great. How’s that working out for the Palestinians now?

@Bjerknes

Yeah, a bunch of crisis actors the lot of them.

The protests were calling for ceasefire when the democrat president was sending arms to Israel, while Israel was bombing hospitals and schools. Please wait a few months before you rewrite history.

 

[Post Ironic]

Yeah, a bunch of crisis actors the lot of them.

The protests were calling for ceasefire when the democrat president was sending arms to Israel, while Israel was bombing hospitals and schools. Please wait a few months before you rewrite history.

Sorry, I wasn’t implying the lot of them were crisis actors. More so that there were quite a few bad faith actors involved in those protests and the funding of them and pushing them on socials. And also having them escalate. The right here in Canada and in the US was absolutely gleeful about the protests and the wedge it drove between democrats/liberals and a good part of their base. Anyways, just an observation and I could be wrong, but there were some very unscrupulous people that stood to gain a lot by helping to alienate part of the democrat voting base.

Regardless, Arab Americans and the younger progressives supporting the protests who chose to abstain from voting or vote Jill Stein/Trump are now seeing Trump say he supports the complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza, his envoy talk about the Palestinians never being allowed back, his UN ambassador saying Israel has a biblical right to the West Bank, removing Biden’s sanctions on Israeli settlers, and those who protest who aren’t citizens of the US being threatened with deportation, etc.

There was a ceasefire negotiated by the Biden admin. But likely held up by Bibi to not give Biden/Harris that win pre-election because he knew a Trump presidency would give him whatever he wanted.

 

[icemaη]

Sorry, I wasn’t implying the lot of them were crisis actors. More so that there were quite a few bad faith actors involved in those protests and the funding of them and pushing them on socials. And also having them escalate. The right here in Canada and in the US was absolutely gleeful about the protests and the wedge it drove between democrats/liberals and a good part of their base. Anyways, just an observation and I could be wrong, but there were some very unscrupulous people that stood to gain a lot by helping to alienate part of the democrat voting base.

Regardless, Arab Americans and the younger progressives supporting the protests who chose to abstain from voting or vote Jill Stein/Trump are now seeing Trump say he supports the complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza, his envoy talk about the Palestinians never being allowed back, his UN ambassador saying Israel has a biblical right to the West Bank, removing Biden’s sanctions on Israeli settlers, and those who protest who aren’t citizens of the US being deported, etc.

There was a ceasefire negotiated by the Biden admin. But likely held up by Bibi to not give Biden/Harris that win pre-election because he knew a Trump presidency would give him whatever he wanted.

I get why Arab Americans abstained or voted for Trump. Despite repeated attempts by local democratic leaders in Michigan Kamala Harris did not even give them the time of day, while Trump showed up (even if it was to make false promises). These are folks who most likely had family in Palestine or Lebanon being directly affected and all they most likely wanted was some kind of reassurance. Yet none came from Kamala, which was surprising to me because iirc just before Biden announced he was not going to stand for reelection, she did mention ceasefire in one of her speeches. But not after, not in any meaningful way that I remember. When your folks are being murdered you are voting with your heart and not your brain. Asking angry, grieving folks to look at the greater good is a stupid expectation.
The “allies” of the movement are a different category in my mind. They definitely should know and do better. Looking at the data post election, I don’t think their numbers would have made a difference anyways.
I wholeheartedly agree the Jill Stein voters are nuts though.
Biden really fucked up the whole Gaza war. The sad part is that any other US president would have done the same as well. Regardless of how regular Americans feel about the situation, the US government will continue to support Israel in all of its missions regardless of which party is in power.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Anyone else notice that all the “from the river to the sea” and “genocide” protestors and university campus occupiers suddenly disappeared after Trump won the election? Almost as if a lot of bad faith actors were involved, trying to sway people from voting Democrat because they “supported genocide” whereas Trump would be great. How’s that working out for the Palestinians now?

@Bjerknes

probably because they are afraid of being prosecuted/ deported now? i don't buy this, anyone paying even slight attention would know Trump and the republicans were always going to be worse on israel

 

[JUVEMOOD]

Yes, you learn from history and maybe make analogies and comparisons.
Still, those thinking there will ever be peace in the Middle East..
If there is no more HAMAS, there will be SAMAH.. HASAM.. MASAH

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Kappa96 liking my comment.. thinking it is pro the zionists..
I just wanted to say here.. the zionist will never win this..
Today
A year from now
100 years from now
The fighting against this aggressor and oppression will never end.
Whether the freedom fighters are called ha mas.. mahas samah or whatever.


Trump pushing the deportation agenda.. lol
1- if 1 person accepted to be deported, they will labelled as a traitor to the Palestinian case by the people
2- if Jor or Egy leaders accepted, they will be labelled as traitors to the Palestinian case by all arab nations and people.
3- is there even a Gazan who said they will leave? How many are there of those...

Jordan already ready to declare war.. and this is music to Jordan people.. even when u think.. Jordan will never win this.. it just does not matter winning or losing this war to Jordanian\Palestinians..

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[Bjerknes]

Never liked his music but this isn’t bad

https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1889364031951028661?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg

 

[Mohad]

 

[BayernFan]

 

[Mohad]

It's like a snake eating itself.