He knows that, but he also knows that there was an islamic state in the past so he wants to know more about the law of that state.
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Good that you edited your post
because i do'nt want to see you banned for any reason specially for insulting me
Lets take it like this
Nothing personal
you are free to say whatever you want
but do't forget that i am too
and about the counterevidences
as i told you before its not me whos denying that personally and you know this very well
so when you ask for counterevidences , i think its much easier for you and anyone else to just type "Holocaust denials" and will get everything needed
i really don't have to copy and paste what have been said by the denials
and to tell you the truth i don't believe everything they say just because i hate israel
for example
The Leuchter Report
which i read long time ago but found out latter that it was bullshit
I will tell you one thing
I promise you that i will never talk about the Holocaust again , neither in your thread nor any where else in this forum
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because i do'nt want to see you banned for any reason specially for insulting me
Lets take it like this
Nothing personal
you are free to say whatever you want
but do't forget that i am too
and about the counterevidences
as i told you before its not me whos denying that personally and you know this very well
so when you ask for counterevidences , i think its much easier for you and anyone else to just type "Holocaust denials" and will get everything needed
i really don't have to copy and paste what have been said by the denials
and to tell you the truth i don't believe everything they say just because i hate israel
for example
The Leuchter Report
which i read long time ago but found out latter that it was bullshit
I will tell you one thing
I promise you that i will never talk about the Holocaust again , neither in your thread nor any where else in this forum
i
The Testimony of SS General Otto Ohlendorf, Einsatzgruppe D
International Military Tribunal
January 3, 1946
COL. AMEN: So that before you commenced to march into Soviet Russia you received orders at this conference to exterminate the Jews and Communist functionaries in addition to the regular professional work of the Security Police and SD; is that correct?
OHLENDORF: Yes.
Testimony of Rudolf Hoess, Commandant of Auschwitz
[Testimony on Monday, April 15, 1946]
Morning Session
DR. KAUFFMANN: Yes.
[Turning to the witness.] From 1940 to 1943, you were the Commander of the camp at Auschwitz. Is that true?
HOESS: Yes.
DR. KAUFFMANN: And during that time, hundreds of thousands of human beings were sent to their death there. Is that correct?
HOESS: Yes.
DR. KAUTFFMANN: Is it true that you, yourself, have made no exact notes regarding the figures of the number of those victims because you were forbidden to make them?
HOESS: Yes, that is correct.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Is it furthermore correct that exclusively one man by the name of Eichmann had notes about this, the man who had the task of organizing and assembling these people?
HOESS: Yes.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Is it furthermore true that Eichmann stated to you that in Auschwitz a total sum of more than 2 million Jews had been destroyed?
HOESS: Yes.
DR. KAUFFMANN: I ask you, according to your knowledge, did these people know what was in store for them?
HOESS: The majority of them did not, for steps were taken to keep them in doubt about it and suspicion would not arise that they were to go to their death. For instance, all doors and all walls bore inscriptions to the effect that they were going to undergo a delousing operation or take a shower. This was made known in several languages to the internees by other internees who had come in with earlier transports and who were being used as auxiliary crews during the whole action.
DR. KAUFFMANN And then, you told me the other day, that death by gassing set in within a period of 3 to 15 minutes. Is that correct?
HOESS: Yes.
Interesting read to read about Muslim spain, to get a hint of how an Islamic state functions (way more progressive then the the barbaric saudi govt, despite being 1000 years before them...).
Bit funny also how peaceful the jews lived there, thought about it not only because it was interesting historical period, but because you Alen mentionned some day ago about how Jews were deported from Spain (may I add, it was the spanish kingdom that did so) and then went to rest of Europe, and how their journey into Europe began. Bit funny also because religiously and as a people, muslims and jews have had very little issue with eachother in overall despite the issues of the modern times (which is infused too much with religion when its PURELY a political issue), their practical relation throughout history have mainly been cordial.
Compared to Europeans (and hence christians) VERY VERY dark history jews (constant massacres, mass deportations etc), its interesting contrast. Pretty much almost ALL very negative history of the Jews are in the hands of Europeans mainly (Latest one in WWII is too much said as being the fault of the Nazi's, but almost whole of Europe have their hands dirty in that). But now they are "best allies" in the conflict with the "east" (aka muslim world), history is a funny thing (though muslims "issue" with jews got off the ground only a straight forward reason as being given Israel as their land, while Europeans have had WAY more discriminate reasons to treat jews the way they did for millenia).
Bit funny also how peaceful the jews lived there, thought about it not only because it was interesting historical period, but because you Alen mentionned some day ago about how Jews were deported from Spain (may I add, it was the spanish kingdom that did so) and then went to rest of Europe, and how their journey into Europe began. Bit funny also because religiously and as a people, muslims and jews have had very little issue with eachother in overall despite the issues of the modern times (which is infused too much with religion when its PURELY a political issue), their practical relation throughout history have mainly been cordial.
Compared to Europeans (and hence christians) VERY VERY dark history jews (constant massacres, mass deportations etc), its interesting contrast. Pretty much almost ALL very negative history of the Jews are in the hands of Europeans mainly (Latest one in WWII is too much said as being the fault of the Nazi's, but almost whole of Europe have their hands dirty in that). But now they are "best allies" in the conflict with the "east" (aka muslim world), history is a funny thing (though muslims "issue" with jews got off the ground only a straight forward reason as being given Israel as their land, while Europeans have had WAY more discriminate reasons to treat jews the way they did for millenia).
Say, that website Someone posted says that muslims may be able to drink alcohol in the Hereafter. I thought alcohol was bad, but it isn't?
It also says Allah will do this to me:
They will remain in Hell forever and ever and whenever their skins are thoroughly burnt, Allaah shall replace them with fresh skins so as to taste the Torment of Hell. Added to this, they will never die, nor will they be relieved of the torment.
Allaah Knows best.
Man, I want to be a muslim so bad right now. I'd get to have a beer in paradise!
All joking aside there is one thing that made Islam an interesting religion back in the day: it really is a social guide. Much more so than christianity for example.
It also says Allah will do this to me:
They will remain in Hell forever and ever and whenever their skins are thoroughly burnt, Allaah shall replace them with fresh skins so as to taste the Torment of Hell. Added to this, they will never die, nor will they be relieved of the torment.
Allaah Knows best.
Man, I want to be a muslim so bad right now. I'd get to have a beer in paradise!
All joking aside there is one thing that made Islam an interesting religion back in the day: it really is a social guide. Much more so than christianity for example.
Yeah I know, though it should be a more well known fact, in these times when its animosity towards jews, remind them of their millenias long of peaceful relations with them (its shameful to read about the hate today, and read back to peaceful coexistence like it was in most muslim empires back then). Things get so blurred so easily when emotions are involved, brings out the irrationality of people. But even if there are intense anti-jew sentiments in muslims nowadays (doubt Someone who would be such a hateful holocaust denier if it wasnt due to the political issue), its mainly a modern concept. Unlike Europeans/christians violent and abusive relation to Jews since the death of Jesus (his death being the core underlining reasons for their intense and consistent anti-semitism,).
Its unfortunate because some (muslim) people dont bother to realise the issue is Zionism, and the political conflict of land, and NOT jews themselves being the issue (they would have hated anyone taking away their land, jews or not). Understandable the two arent seperated, in terms of simple human behaviour, but still unfortunate.
From the same site
About alcohol in Islam:
It is quite clear that drinking alcohol and not fasting in Ramadhaan without an excuse are major grave sins. Anyone who does so claiming it to be lawful or does it out of haughtiness and objection to the ruling of Allaah becomes a disbeliever; otherwise, he is a wrongdoer who exposes himself to great danger.
Allaah Knows best.
About alcohol in Islam:
It is quite clear that drinking alcohol and not fasting in Ramadhaan without an excuse are major grave sins. Anyone who does so claiming it to be lawful or does it out of haughtiness and objection to the ruling of Allaah becomes a disbeliever; otherwise, he is a wrongdoer who exposes himself to great danger.
Allaah Knows best.
Is there an Osman who isn't a Muslim? 
P.S: oh, i forgot that he could be an atheist
P.S: oh, i forgot that he could be an atheist
or a Muslim who doesn't know what is Islam
Not only this but its a clue that he never ever read the Holy Quran
P.S:Atheist don't believe in God so automatically don't believe in his prophets
From what I read Jesus was taken by Allah or something.
That's a euphemism for dying.
I have seen very few people that far away from reality. The stubborn way in which he denies everything he sees on a daily basis is amazing. He's one of those people who could say humans would do fine without oxygen, despite all the evidence that they wouldn't.
That's a euphemism for dying.
I have seen very few people that far away from reality. The stubborn way in which he denies everything he sees on a daily basis is amazing. He's one of those people who could say humans would do fine without oxygen, despite all the evidence that they wouldn't.