Israeli-Palestinian conflict (45 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
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@ Rab, who blames the Palestinians for what's happening today? Who blames Islam for what's happening today? Who givs Israel an excuse for what the Israeli are doing right now?
You say some members here did that. Tell me who, show me where, and i'll ban him/her for being an idiot.

Sometimes it's just obvious the point people trying to hit at even though their sentence isn't that crystal. It's part of this discussion, so let it be. It's fine I guess.

Anyway, I want to say something not everyone knows probably except the Arabs (was discussed in the Hezbollah thread)...and that is Hezbollah in Lebanon or Hamas in Palestine aren't 100% backed and supported and that due to their internal political way.

But when it comes to vs Israel, then we have no other option but to support them and back them because at the end of the day Israelies will always have the hunger to attack the Arab countries until they find themselves occupying all lands.

Point is some of you should understand the frustration of posters such as Rebel. The man isn't allowed to turn back to HIS OWN COUNTRY. Is that even possible? Is that even related to religion? The man and his family(probably) are living in away from their home.

There's no shame in that, but someone (can't remember) in his earlier post wondered why Palestinians are frustrated, well here is the answer in a really simply and shortcut way, they can't return to the country they all came from.



Last thing and seriously this should be taken into consideration because this one will save/solve all the problems in the middle east and that is Palestinians having their home-land back. I don't even care if that meant Israeli's should be thrown into the lake or ocean. The whole middle east will be in peace.

Lebanese has had enough fighting with the Palestinians refugees in Lebanon.
Palestinians had enough moving from a place to another.
Lebanese had enough fighting with the Israeli's trying to desperately to occupy our land with no success.
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    :lol:



    Indeed it is, I rested my case just here after this post.

    http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1870417&postcount=2787

    You just can't discuss anything with someone extremist..
    As a grandson of one of Armenians who suffered the tragedy before 100 years, you should have been more keen on thinking before voting in this thread. I made that sentence to tease you because you really annoyed me with your votes. Eddy knows how much I respect Armenians and knows well that I don't condone any tragedy happening to them, but when you vote like that, although you live in that region and should know better, is really something weird.

    My point was that Ottomans were good for the Arabs. Better than the current Western regimes ruling us. I didn't mean they were better for the Armenians.
     

    Enron

    Tickle Me
    Moderator
    Oct 11, 2005
    75,665
    Look. I really don't care whether they were 10 or 10 million. That has nothing to do with the current events although Seven is trying to mention it at each occasion just to say that Israelis are not doing enough massacres that can be considered by him to be rated a mass killing. He even mentioned Angola and Zimbabwe to try to justify Gaza events saying that Gazans didn't suffer as the Africans and were not killed enough yet as if he motivates Zionists to do more killings.
    Point of order. Andries mentioned DPR (Dem. Rep. of Congo) and I mentioned Zimbabwe, I think it was Someone that mentioned Angola in a poor piece of counter point. Anyway, no one is justifying Israel's terrible actions, but Africa was mentioned to shine light on places where actual qualified genocide was or had taken place. That's all.

    Genocide is a quantified word. In order to prove a genocide you have to have evidence of a systematic killing off of a people. That's is very hard to discern, it's like proving motive in a murder case without a confession or concrete evident. Andries' point is that you can't usually do that during a conflict. l for one think that's a shame and believe that the international community should step in when the conflict levels reach massacre, which this action is.
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
    54,023
    I don't understand why the two ideas can't coexist.
    I think many Arabs think that the Jews are allowed to do these massacres because of the holocaust. You know, the West owes the Jews at least this much.
    Many Zionists probably think the same way, which is of course wrong way of thinking.

    Denying the holocaust and proving that it didn't happen, will prove that the Jews have no right to do what they're doing and the West doesn't owes the Jews anything.
    This is also a wrong way of thinking, and is very naive, but sadly i think that's exactly the reason why they're denying it.
     

    Ahmed

    Principino
    Sep 3, 2006
    47,928
    Israel recruits 'army of bloggers’ to combat anti-Zionist Web sites


    By Cnaan Liphshiz

    The Immigrant Absorption Ministry announced on Sunday it was setting up an “army of bloggers,” to be made up of Israelis who speak a second language, to represent Israel in “anti-Zionist blogs” in English, French, Spanish and German.
    The program’s first volunteer was Sandrine Pitousi, 31, from Kfar Maimon, situated five kilometers from Gaza. “I heard about the project over the radio and decided to join because I’m living in the middle of the conflict,” she said.

    Before hanging up the phone prematurely following a Color Red rocket alert, Pitousi, who immigrated to Israel from France in 1993, said she had some experience with public relations from managing a production company.

    “During the war, we looked for a way to contribute to the effort,” the ministry’s director general, Erez Halfon, told Haaretz. “We turned to this enormous reservoir of more than a million people with a second mother tongue.” Other languages in which bloggers are sought include Russian and Portuguese.

    Halfon said volunteers who send the Absorption Ministry their contact details by e-mail, at [email protected], will be registered according to language, and then passed on to the Foreign Ministry’s media department, whose personnel will direct the volunteers to Web sites deemed “problematic.”

    Within 30 minutes of announcing the program, which was approved by the Foreign Ministry on Sunday, five volunteers were already in touch, Halfon said.

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    CheSchifo, Alen...who else :D:D
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
    116,244
    Point of order. Andries mentioned DPR (Dem. Rep. of Congo) and I mentioned Zimbabwe, I think it was Someone that mentioned Angola in a poor piece of counter point. Anyway, no one is justifying Israel's terrible actions, but Africa was mentioned to shine light on places where actual qualified genocide was or had taken place. That's all.

    Genocide is a quantified word. In order to prove a genocide you have to have evidence of a systematic killing off of a people. That's is very hard to discern, it's like proving motive in a murder case without a confession or concrete evident. Andries' point is that you can't usually do that during a conflict. l for one think that's a shame and believe that the international community should step in when the conflict levels reach massacre, which this action is.
    Looking at the numbers of civilians killed over the past ten years at least, yes I would say that is a systematic killing off of a people. Israel targets refugee camps for Christ's sake.
     

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