Israeli-Palestinian conflict (82 Viewers)

[Turk_Bianconero]

How can you sit there and say that Jews not only wanted, but actually created the Holocaust? I might have made a lot of harsh comments, but this is not in the same category, Ahmed. This truly disgusts me and most likely every single soul who knows the first thing about WW II.

Outrageous.

i was talking about zionists.every jew isn't zionist.no religion would sacrifice millions but zionism is not religious. it is a racialist movement like nazies.zionism is all about seizing territories and ruling whole world at the end.Their materialist aim can give up on millions life.

 

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[ReBeL]

The real holocaust is occuring now in Gaza.

 

[Seven]

i was talking about zionists.every jew isn't zionist.no religion would sacrifice millions but zionism is not a religious. it is a racialist movement like nazies.zionism is all about seizing territories and ruling whole world at the end.Their materialist aim can give up on millions life.

Zionists originally wanted a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine (and TBH, who could blame them? They might have been slaughtering Palestinians for over 60 years now, but that's pretty much nothing compared to the 3000 rough years Jews have had in Europe, not to mention the Holocaust). But what do you think is the real goal of zionism? Creating a safe harbour for Jews. Now if that's your goal, then why would you create the biggest fucking pogrom of all time?

 

[Seven]

The real holocaust is occuring now in Gaza.

You know what? If you're going to say that, fuck them. Let them die. Because it's not you know. Sure, it's a massacre and sure, it isn't acceptable. But let's not compare it to the Holocaust. That's a whole other level, my friend.

Some of you might want to grab a history book every now and then. I guess that all those WWII documentaries they keep showing all over Europe do have their purposes. Turk, you've lost all sense of reality, mate.

 

[Ahmed]

BTW the guy who wrote the book about the stuff you're calling BS was nominated for a Pulitzer

 

[ReBeL]

You know what? If you're going to say that, fuck them. Let them die. Because it's not you know. Sure, it's a massacre and sure, it isn't acceptable. But let's not compare it to the Holocaust. That's a whole other level, my friend.

We got bored of people who bring holocaust whenever Israel makes massacres as if we as Palestinians have to compensate for what the nazis did, if any, to a group of jews before 60 years.

And you may not know how to respect living people, but try, even for once, to respect the souls of dead people.

 

[ReBeL]

Some of you might want to grab a history book every now and then. I guess that all those WWII documentaries they keep showing all over Europe do have their purposes. Turk, you've lost all sense of reality, mate.

Yes, it seems that the Zionist media has succeeded in making you convinced anytime in the future that they have the right to kill anybody becuase your European ancestors have killed their ancestors, if any.

 

[bianconero]

This is the most obnoxious thread I have ever had the misfortune to read.

I will no longer read it, but I will remember it.

Trying to equate and justify truely sad, shameful and tragic events in our shared history is disgusting. Denying or corrupting historical facts in order to justify one's own point of view is disgusting.

Hating and wanting revenge is human, and that is why this conflict will continue.

I remember and pray for the dead, hurt and suffering of all people in those troubled lands.

 

[Holocaust]

Yes, it seems that the Zionist media has succeeded in making you convinced anytime in the future that they have the right to kill anybody becuase your European ancestors have killed their ancestors, if any.

That's not the fucking point and you know it isn't. The Holocaust was NOT created by Zionists.

 

[Holocaust]

BTW the guy who wrote the book about the stuff you're calling BS was nominated for a Pulitzer

You have reading issues. I actually told you that I'm convinced of the fact that some nazis were Jews. That does not mean however that the Holocaust was a Zionist conspiracy. This is a whole lot worse than calling a muslim a moron, make no mistake, even if the mods did.

 

[Holocaust]

This is the most obnoxious thread I have ever had the misfortune to read.

I will no longer read it, but I will remember it.

Trying to equate and justify truely sad, shameful and tragic events in our shared history is disgusting. Denying or corrupting historical facts in order to justify one's own point of view is disgusting.

Hating and wanting revenge is human, and that is why this conflict will continue.

I remember and pray for the dead, hurt and suffering of all people in those troubled lands.

No one justified anything, but saying that it isn't normal for Jews to want a country of their own after the Holocaust is somewhat moronic. But I see that fundamentalism is now accepted on these forums, whereas historic reason is not.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

You know Theodor Herzl right?

"Herzl regarded Zionism's triumph as inevitable, not only because life in Europe was ever more untenable for Jews, but also because it was in Europe's interests to rid the Jews and relieved of anti-Semitism: The European political establishment would eventually be persuaded to promote Zionism. Herzl recognized that anti-Semitism would be HARNESSED to his own--Zionist-purposes." (Righteous Victims, p. 21)

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Regarding antisemites, Theodor Herzl explained how it could benefit the Zionist enterprise, he wrote in his diary:

"The antisemites WILL BECOME our most loyal friends, the antisemites nations will become our allies." (One Palestine Complete, p. 47)

 

[ReBeL]

That's not the fucking point and you know it isn't. The Holocaust was NOT created by Zionists.

I couldn't care less if it happened or not at the time that you insult the people dying on Tv right now.

 

[Ahmed]

You have reading issues. I actually told you that I'm convinced of the fact that some nazis were Jews. That does not mean however that the Holocaust was a Zionist conspiracy. This is a whole lot worse than calling a muslim a moron, make no mistake, even if the mods did.

if you had bothered to read the link Turk had posted then you would see what the real point was...that Zionists were involved in planning the Jewish emigration to Palestine, and did in fact collaborate with Nazi Germany to do so

 

[Eddy]

You know what? If you're going to say that, fuck them. Let them die. Because it's not you know. Sure, it's a massacre and sure, it isn't acceptable. But let's not compare it to the Holocaust. That's a whole other level, my friend.

Some of you might want to grab a history book every now and then. I guess that all those WWII documentaries they keep showing all over Europe do have their purposes. Turk, you've lost all sense of reality, mate.

You're not making any sense at all. You're comparing Jewish blood with Palestinian blood ? I really don't give a shit what Jews have been through in the past anymore to be honest and Palestinians should not pay for what they've been through.

And to Ahmed and Turk, come on, Holocaust being set up by Zionism ? Please, these are just theories, Hitler didn't have a secret agreement and nor did the Jews. It's just retarted.

 

[ReBeL]

Guys, please stop the holocaust conversation. It was discussed many times in this forum without any results.

 

[Ahmed]

I clarified that in the post above of you Ed

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

And to Ahmed and Turk, come on, Holocaust being set up by Zionism ? Please, these are just theories, Hitler didn't have a secret agreement and nor did the Jews. It's just retarted.

But you can't ignore this fact.Adolf Hitler directly or indirectly one of biggest responsibles of israeli occupation in palestine.

 

[Alen]

Seven was not comparing Jewish blood with Palestinian blood and he never implied that today's happenings are justified because of the holocaust.
He simply (rightfully) disagreed with Turk that the holocaust was a jewish conspiracy.

 

[Snoop]

well, if there is any positive to draw from this thread, its good to see you here !!:malt:

thanx Vin :malt: