Israeli-Palestinian conflict (52 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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jukazem

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ßüякε;1866140 said:
I'm sure you have somewhere where you could have locked him up until the war was over.
What you talking about? If the Palestinians knew of such a place they wouldn't be hiding in those UN schools and just be bombed for not being cool enough. Silence of the lambs!
 
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1) Nuked with reason Japan.
2) Napalm was a bad call, but your point would have been better made with Agent Orange.
3) Cluster bombs are designed to be AP, so I don't understand the problem.

People in Gitmo were not given trial, but were not called under United States federal territory. I think they should have been given fair trial and due process, but they were just "detainees," it blew and I don't agree with it. The point I was trying to make was, we would not execute OUR OWN CITIZEN on blatant or suspicion of spying without a fair trial.
A bad call, is a bit mild don't you think?

I think the point is that since the Second world war America has acted as the defender of the peace, and judge of justice, and have thereby participated in causing greater harm than good. Two-faced and arrogant they have acted, often, irresponsibly, without due thought and care of the cultures they were dealing with. Money has been the prime motivation, and the insane pursuit of capitalism.

They are a young country with a big gun: run.

I mean the government and media, not the general public.
 

CheSchifo!

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Come on, as if Israelis follow any fucking trial.

Give me a fucking break. Stop being so one sided.
It's still a war crime. A hypothetical situation doesn't change that. If Israel had done the same, you'd be outraged.

Though I honestly don't believe there's such a thing as a fair trial in these cases. Even after a war people aren't able to guarantee a fair trial.
 
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ReBeL

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    ßüякε;1866098 said:
    No trial?
    He admitted doing that. I love how you are defending spies rights while you're closing your eyes on children rights to live peacefully.

    ßüякε;1866117 said:
    I know they do, on both counts, but they buy a lot of our shit too.

    You don't think f-16's and F-15's are free, do you?

    Especially not the fuel or the ordinance.

    All of which is extremely expensive.

    I bet we equal out on money given each other.

    1 F-16 is about 20 M, one F-15 (depending on model and if it is an Eagle or Strike Eagle) is about 30 to 35 M, and I know we didn't just give those to them.

    But yes, a lot of our money goes to their military, I've said that before, the top 4 fighting groups on the Earth are (in no order) Navy SEALS, US SpecOpsSOCOM, Israeli SP.FCS. and maybe the German SO Bundeswehr Heer or the Green Berets (which do a lot more than what is asked and operate as single entities.) But the only people the SEALS train with as a subsidiary unit is the Israeli (Some Hebrew Shit Here, because I forget.)

    So not only is it obvious to me that we have a partnership, but it is obvious that we have a running partnership in the war economy.
    Naah.

    It's a sponsorship, not a partnership. Your government gives them all the required money and weapons without anything coming from Israel to your side to compensate for it except massacres and embarrassment in front of the whole world.

    This Arabic caricature sums it all up...

    Exactly...This is how we act.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Some cameramen could arrive to Tal Al-Hawa region where the Israeli tanks were making a great damage in the previous days. A very huge damage is there. 23 bodies were found under the rubble in Tal Al-Hawa.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Tens of thousands now are participating in the funeral of the martyr leader Said Syam. That is just an indication how much this stupid attack increased the popularity of Hamas between Palestinians.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Qatar summit has just started with the presence of most of the Arab countries, Turkey, Iran, Venezuela, Senegal and Indonesia.

    Palestine is represented by Hamas, Islamic Jihad and PFLP.
     

    Ahmed

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    A British Jewish lawmaker compared the Israeli offensive in Gaza on Thursday to the Nazis who forced his family to flee from Poland.

    Gerald Kaufman, a member of the Jewish Labour movement linked to Premier Gordon Brown’s ruling party, also called for an arms embargo on Israel.

    “My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town and a German soldier shot her dead in her bed,” Kaufman said during a parliamentary debate on the Gaza war.

    “My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza.


    “The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploit the continuing guilt from gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians.”

    Israel’s claim that many of the Palestinian victims were militants “was the reply of the Nazi,” he said, adding: “I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants.” Kaufman, said Hamas was a “deeply nasty” organisation, but said it was democratically elected.

    “It is time for our government to make clear to the Israeli government that its conduct and policies are unacceptable and to impose a total arms ban on Israel,” he said.—AFP
     

    Azzurri7

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    Tens of thousands now are participating in the funeral of the martyr leader Said Syam. That is just an indication how much this stupid attack increased the popularity of Hamas between Palestinians.
    This doesn't really matter Abed IMO. Hamas popularity or Fateh popularity. In these situations all you need is to see them united whether it's Fateh, Qassam, Hamas etc...

    Personally, I'm never with the way Hezbollah dealing inside Lebanon, but when 2006 war took place, I was just hoping none of their Leaders/Fighters dies but to wipe Israel off the map.

    I believe this what should happen in Palestine....and the outcome will be on their side Nshalla.


    Btw, RIP again for all martyrs up till now.
     
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    ReBeL

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    This doesn't really matter Abed IMO. Hamas popularity or Fateh popularity. In these situations all you need is to see them united whether it's Fateh, Qassam, Hamas etc...

    Personally, I'm never with the way Hezbollah dealing inside Lebanon, but when 2006 war took place, I was just hoping none of their Leaders/Fighters dies but to wipe Israel off the map.

    I believe this what should happen in Palestine....and the outcome will be on their side Nshalla.


    Btw, RIP again for all martyrs up till now.
    Unity is so important, Rab. but the unity should be for the best of the Palestinian people, and that is not Abbas' target, unfortunately.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Syrian president: What can we tell our people about the massacres of Palestinian children in Gaza? There is a difference between resistance and terrorism. The first is Palestinian and the second is Israeli.


    By the way, during the last hour, 6 Palestinians were killed in a bombing in North Gaza.
     

    Azzurri7

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    ßüякε;1866112 said:
    Yea, we launch rockets into Toronto all the time.

    But it's obvious we aren't as much as they are.

    We at least believe in a fair trial.
    we dont launch rockets we instead go for nukes napalm and cluster bombs; as for trial what of the people in guatanamo
    100%.

    Seriously Burke, you don't seem to be aware of the political situation in the Middle-East.
     

    Azzurri7

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    Syrian president: What can we tell our people about the massacres of Palestinian children in Gaza? There is a difference between resistance and terrorism. The first is Palestinian and the second is Israeli.


    By the way, during the last hour, 6 Palestinians were killed in a bombing in North Gaza.
    That Giraffe should zip it. He's the last person to open his mouth when it comes to the word "Resistance".
     

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