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RIM, HTC, Nokia want no part of Apple's "self-made debacle"
By Eric Bangeman | Last updated about 7 hours ago

Are antenna grip problems universal among smartphones? Even if they are, handset makers RIM, Nokia, and HTC are not happy with Apple for insinuating that the iPhone 4 isn't alone in suffering from signal loss when gripped in a certain way.

During a press conference on Friday, Apple CEO Steve Jobs called media coverage of the iPhone 4's antenna problems overblown. Jobs said that reception issues were something common to all smartphones, playing a video that showed smartphones from HTC, Samsung, and other manufacturers dropping signal when held in various ways.

Apple's attempt to paint other smartphones with the same wide brush didn't sit well with RIM, makers of the BlackBerry. Calling the whole saga "Apple's self-made debacle," RIM co-CEOs Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie didn't mince words. "Apple's claims about RIM products appear to be deliberate attempts to distort the public's understanding of an antenna design issue and to deflect attention from Apple's difficult situation," they said in a statement obtained by CrackBerry. "RIM has avoided designs like the one Apple used in the iPhone 4 and instead has used innovative designs which reduce the risk for dropped calls, especially in areas of lower coverage."

The co-CEOs also slammed Apple for its free case program, pointing out that all BlackBerrys can maintain "proper connectivity" without having to resort to cases and bumpers. They concluded by criticized Apple for shirking responsibility for its design choices by accusing other hardware makers of making similar antenna tradeoffs.

HTC was more restrained, even though a Droid Eris was shown dropping from four bars to zero during Apple's video. Instead, HTC highlighted user satisfaction and a corresponding lack of complaints about the Eris' design. "We have had very few complaints about signal or antenna problems on the Eris," a company spokesperson told Pocket-lint. He said that only about 0.016 percent of Eris owners have complained to the manufacturer about dropped calls and signal weakness, compared to 0.55 percent of iPhone 4 owners.

Jobs also singled out Nokia, highlighting models from the Finnish company that ship with stickers on the reverse saying "don't touch here." Nokia defended itself, saying on its corporate blog that it considers antenna design a "core competence… for decades."

Nokia says it designs its phones to account for real-world usage, including a variety of grips. "In general, antenna performance of a mobile device/phone may be affected with a tight grip, depending on how the device is held," the company said. "That’s why Nokia designs our phones to ensure acceptable performance in all real life cases, for example when the phone is held in either hand. Nokia has invested thousands of man hours in studying how people hold their phones and allows for this in designs, for example by having antennas both at the top and bottom of the phone and by careful selection of materials and their use in the mechanical design."

In the same way that widespread user and media criticism of the iPhone 4 antenna problem touched a nerve within Apple, the iPhone maker's saying that its latest gadget is just one of many smartphones with signal loss problems has aroused the ire of its competitors. All handset makers are faced with antenna design challenges, but only Apple has managed to bring its antenna design decisions so spectacularly into the public consciousness. That's not something Cupertino should feel good about.

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Disgusting, disgusting company. The nerve of them. :inter:

Apple showed their true colors by trying to bring down other manufacturers. HTC and Nokia bit back while RIM warned Apple
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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It's still thumbs down from Consumer Reports on the iPhone 4

Why did it seem that Apple was willing to let things slide with the iPhone 4 until Consumer Reports got involved? To the average Joe, it sure seemed that Steve Jobs was trying to win the love of the neutral, non-profit magazine by calling for a press conference almost immediately after CR refused to rank the iPhone 4. Whatever the motivation, the timing was sure suspicious, but it really doesn't matter because even with the promise of a case for all iPhone 4 buyers before September 30th, or the option of receiving your money back without being charged a re-stocking fee within the first 30 days of owning the phone or getting a refund on the case that you already purchased from Apple, Consumer Reports is not satisfied. Perhaps it is a matter of semantics, but because Apple has put a September 30th deadline on their responses, CR says that Apple has not come up with a long-term fix for the problem. Also, because Apple is not refunding the purchase price of third party cases, Consumer Reports feels that the Cupertino based company has come up short in responding to this situation. The magazine, with these comments, joins previously reported negative responses from Nokia and RIM, about Apple's reply to the iPhone's connectivity issue. As the non-profit company said, "Consumer Reports believes Apple’s offer of free cases is a good first step. However, Apple has indicated that this is not a long-term solution, it has guaranteed the offer only through September 30th, and has not extended it unequivocally to customers who bought cases from third-party vendors. We look forward to a long-term fix from Apple. As things currently stand, the iPhone 4 is still not one of our Recommended models."

We think that Steve Jobs couldn't care less about the responses from Nokia and RIM. However, there seems to be something about Consumer Reports that really seems to bother the Apple CEO. Is it the lack of a ranking from the magazine? Whatever the reason, the lack of acceptance by the non-profit gang could send Apple back to the drawing board with another attempt at satisfying them and getting that coveted "Best Buy" rating from CR.

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icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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Okay, don't want to start a new thread. What do you guys think of the new Windows 7 mobiles? I like how they have simplified the UI for one.
 

.zero

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WM7 is going to blow just like all of its previous releases.

MS has done a horrible job at mobile platforms and they have wasted so many wonderful devices over the past 10 years.

Even the most recent release of the KIN phone line was pulled after only 2-3 months of being on the market.

Bottom line is don't even bother
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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WM7 is going to blow just like all of its previous releases.

MS has done a horrible job at mobile platforms and they have wasted so many wonderful devices over the past 10 years.

Even the most recent release of the KIN phone line was pulled after only 2-3 months of being on the market.

Bottom line is don't even bother
Lets wait and see how it works out. The KIN was a disaster because it was a dumb phone marketed as a smartphone.
 

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