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[Klin]

You don't want to read some posts from here then.

http://realmadridistas.net/real-madrid-players/el-rambo-sergio-ramos/465/

Do you read Chiellini's thread?

 

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[Maddy]

Dicks back then might have been smaller but they had so much more technique!

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You don't want to read some posts from here then.

http://realmadridistas.net/real-madrid-players/el-rambo-sergio-ramos/465/

Strong empirical evidence. Dokter Peter

 

[Ocelot]

Dicks back then might have been smaller but they had so much more technique!

 

[Post Ironic]

I don't think anyone here thinks that Ramos is the best defender out there. He is clearly a "good" defender, he has good pace, good technical ability, strong in the air (both defensive and offensive set-pieces), and he's good at distributing the ball.

When one looks at a player, you have to take everything he offers into account. And Ramos offers more to his team than 99% of CBs in Europe. He's world class because of it. If he was really some big liability, do you think Real wouldn't spend big to replace him? They clearly would have by now.

 

[zizinho]

Nah, Ramos is a bit like Chiellini with added offensive threat.

except that Chiellini is a better defender

 

[j0ker]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Real fans adore him. He's been their best defender in the last years. You can't really be that biased to not see that he has been an important figure for Real last year when they went to win the CL and even in the league.

Go perform suicide, you old fart.

You don't want to read some posts from here then.

http://realmadridistas.net/real-madrid-players/el-rambo-sergio-ramos/465/

 

[Vlad]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Real fans adore him. He's been their best defender in the last years. You can't really be that biased to not see that he has been an important figure for Real last year when they went to win the CL and even in the league.

Go perform suicide, you old fart.

He was fantastic for Spain as well, along with Casillas one of their better players of the tournament, right?

Error prone defender, useless in defensive tasks, liability. Now time for you to get off your mommy's computer and go to bed.

 

[ALC]

Nah, Ramos is a bit like Chiellini with added offensive threat.

Bro, do you even watch Ramos? Or Chiellini for that matter?

Ramos is so much better with the ball, it's not even funny.

 

[Maddy]

except that Chiellini is a better defender

I just chocked on a dick.

 

[Ocelot]

Bro, do you even watch Ramos? Or Chiellini for that matter?

Ramos is so much better with the ball, it's not even funny.

But they're very comparable in terms of defensive abilities, which was my point.

And look at how Chiellini is rated around here, compared to Ramos...

 

[zizinho]

I just chocked on a $#@!.

why?

 

[Post Ironic]

Nah, Ramos is a bit like Chiellini with added offensive threat.

As defenders, yes(aside from this year, Chiellini has been awful), but Ramos has much better pace, much better technical ability, and is a better ball distributor. Chiellini had, in the past, better positioning defensively, and very good physicality and an awareness of just how much physicality the refs are willing to allow. But Chiellini was one of the best CBs in the world a couple years ago. Now, he's a shadow of that self.

 

[MikeM]

The Team of the Year is always a big joke anyways. At least Ramos is not on the level of including Luiz.

On the topic of actual CB quality though, Diego Godin must be ahead of Ramos.

 

[Post Ironic]

But they're very comparable in terms of defensive abilities, which was my point.

And look at how Chiellini is rated around here, compared to Ramos...

In the past, this was true. The last 12 months, Ramos has been a much better defender than Chiellini.

 

[Ocelot]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Real fans adore him. He's been their best defender in the last years. You can't really be that biased to not see that he has been an important figure for Real last year when they went to win the CL and even in the league.

Go perform suicide, you old fart.

You don't want to read some posts from here then.

http://realmadridistas.net/real-madrid-players/el-rambo-sergio-ramos/465/

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[Post Ironic]

He was fantastic for Spain as well, along with Casillas one of their better players of the tournament, right?

Error prone defender, useless in defensive tasks, liability. Now time for you to get off your mommy's computer and go to bed.

This is just so

 

[ALC]

But they're very comparable in terms of defensive abilities, which was my point.

And look at how Chiellini is rated around here, compared to Ramos...

Fair enough. But a big reason Chiellini gets so much shit is because he's been a mediocre defender and that's all he was good at. Ramos makes up for not defending like a monster.

 

[Maddy]

why?

Some fits, some don't

 

[JuveJay]

Godin should obviously be on the list. He also played a decent World Cup and even scored.

 

[piotrr]

Some fits, some don't

Some rabbis say yes, some rabbis say no.