Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (96 Viewers)

Dec 26, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Desmond ] ++
And to be honest Bes,if any player on the planet were able to conjure just one piece of match-winning magic per month,he'd be very welcome indeed.

Imagine if we had five players who could win 8 matches for us a season like Del Piero did this year,we'd win the league with full points every year:rolleyes:
This is what I call objective ....
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



yes. got to find a balance between what we give a player and what we get in return
Man, you really are frustrated. Yes, Del Piero's rich, we know. Yes, you're probably some poor albanian kid that is never getting laid, but try to be objective for once.

Balance? Do you actually think "we" give Del Piero more money than we get in return? Do you know what Del Piero's commercial value is? And if such a commercially important player, proves to be a good player for the team, then why should we get rid of him? He has scored 13 goals and he was there in the most important game of the season.

You don't have a point, Bessy. You never did.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Man, you really are frustrated. Yes, Del Piero's rich, we know. Yes, you're probably some poor albanian kid that is never getting laid, but try to be objective for once.

That was unnecessary
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



That was unnecessary
So is all the complaining about DP's wages.
Don Bes is a disgrace in this thread. Not a single argument, but lots of bashing. Criticise where it's due, but don't act like Bessy.
 
Jan 7, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Man, you really are frustrated. Yes, Del Piero's rich, we know. Yes, you're probably some poor albanian kid that is never getting laid, but try to be objective for once.

Balance? Do you actually think "we" give Del Piero more money than we get in return? Do you know what Del Piero's commercial value is? And if such a commercially important player, proves to be a good player for the team, then why should we get rid of him? He has scored 13 goals and he was there in the most important game of the season.

You don't have a point, Bessy. You never did.

well let me guess, del piero scored 13 goals, that must mean that he won all those games for juventus. remind me again how many players are in a football team ? what was it ? one or ... eleven ?

and think about it at least once (ok maybe twice) was the personal comment really neccessary ? i mean does it really make you have a stronger point or just makes you look like a moron. i mean everybody could say those things but if you wanna be taken seriously act seriously.

now before you tell me that del piero did win us all those games, esspecially the one against bayern :groan: take a second to remember how many times he has failed us when it most mattered and he can be pele for what matters and it is still not worth loosing all those years and all those players who had to stay on the bench and prove themselves every game.

thank god you have a point, because then that would mean this conversation would be useless
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


So is all the complaining about DP's wages.
Don Bes is a disgrace in this thread. Not a single argument, but lots of bashing. Criticise where it's due, but don't act like Bessy.

He is bashing Del Piero, you should have not attacked his nationalty nor his personal life, this is immature. You should not take bashing Del Piero personal.
 

Codino

The Rival
Jul 21, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++

remind me again how many players are in a football team ? what was it ? one or ... eleven ?


now before you tell me that del piero did win us all those games, esspecially the one against bayern :groan: take a second to remember how many times he has failed us when it most mattered and he can be pele for what matters and it is still not worth loosing all those years and all those players who had to stay on the bench and prove themselves every game.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



well let me guess, del piero scored 13 goals, that must mean that he won all those games for juventus. remind me again how many players are in a football team ? what was it ? one or ... eleven ?

and think about it at least once (ok maybe twice) was the personal comment really neccessary ? i mean does it really make you have a stronger point or just makes you look like a moron. i mean everybody could say those things but if you wanna be taken seriously act seriously.

now before you tell me that del piero did win us all those games, esspecially the one against bayern :groan: take a second to remember how many times he has failed us when it most mattered and he can be pele for what matters and it is still not worth loosing all those years and all those players who had to stay on the bench and prove themselves every game.

thank god you have a point, because then that would mean this conversation would be useless
Yes he has Scored 13goals and almost 5 assists, we never said Dp won us the games But YOU shouldn't criticize him because he has done good so far.

Your making fun of the goal he has scored against Bayern? are you serious, your COMPLAINING because he has scored a goal? what Century are your living in? No matter how the goal was, He scored a goal FFS.

Still talking about the Years, want me to start Donny??

Last year, Legro,Trezeguet,The whole midfield, Camoranesi, and the rest were like a horse with a broken leg, SO FFS DON'T POINT YOUR FINGER ON DEL PIERO only.

And If you wanna talk about the years before, Didn't we win 2 Scudetto's 01-02, 02-03?? Get a life Don, It's be coming useless when you talk about Del Piero, Still you can't prove us/me sh!t.

Btw, Criticizing Dp doesn't make you cool at all, Seriously.
 

jussiut

Junior Member
Feb 22, 2005
431
Oh well, we all have our patterns of behaviour. Don Bes has a one of bashing DP. I'm fine with that since we all know that it's just his opinion and that we can be almost certain he won't influence any others with his "arguments".
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



well let me guess, del piero scored 13 goals, that must mean that he won all those games for juventus. remind me again how many players are in a football team ? what was it ? one or ... eleven ?

and think about it at least once (ok maybe twice) was the personal comment really neccessary ? i mean does it really make you have a stronger point or just makes you look like a moron. i mean everybody could say those things but if you wanna be taken seriously act seriously.

now before you tell me that del piero did win us all those games, esspecially the one against bayern :groan: take a second to remember how many times he has failed us when it most mattered and he can be pele for what matters and it is still not worth loosing all those years and all those players who had to stay on the bench and prove themselves every game.

thank god you have a point, because then that would mean this conversation would be useless
I never ever said del Piero won Juve all those games. All I'm saying is that apparently DP was important for Juventus, since we couldn't have become champions without those goals.

As for the personal comment: was it to be taken seriously in any way? No, of course it wasn't. How the hell would I know you're not getting laid? It just that you have to be frustrated when it comes to DP's wages, because you always go on and on about them, whilst in fact his wages are correct. Just look at what he brings to the team in a commercial way.

"All those times DP failed us". I'm sick and tired of hearing that bullshit. As an Azzurri-fan I'd agree DP failed us a lot, but as a Juve fan? That's just ridiculous. Please check your history Bessy.
 

Monkfish

Senior Member
Jun 14, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by jussiut ] ++
Oh well, we all have our patterns of behaviour. Don Bes has a one of bashing DP. I'm fine with that since we all know that it's just his opinion and that we can be almost certain he won't influence any others with his "arguments".
Anyone who has eyes and saw DP's performances this season shouldn't need Donny's arguments to influence them.

The fact he has scored however many goals doesn't mean he has been good. His goals output has been alright this season, his performances have not.

I'm not sure why I'm posting this as I've said it a thousand times before, but it's true.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



He is bashing Del Piero, you should have not attacked his nationalty nor his personal life, this is immature. You should not take bashing Del Piero personal.
I didn't even attack his nationality. I didn't attack his personal life either. I just said he's an albanian guy who is not getting laid. What's offensive in that? It's just stating an objective fact.












PS: Though I in fact have a point, I was joking.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++


Anyone who has eyes and saw DP's performances this season shouldn't need Donny's arguments to influence them.

The fact he has scored however many goals doesn't mean he has been good. His goals output has been alright this season, his performances have not.

I'm not sure why I'm posting this as I've said it a thousand times before, but it's true.
The thing is Monkfisch, that it doesn't matter how much he sucks as long as he brings us points. And don't give me that crap of "that's not what del piero's supposed to do in this team", because TBH we needed those goals. We didn't need someone playing like Maradona, but not scoring those goals.
 
Jan 7, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Yes he has Scored 13goals and almost 5 assists, we never said Dp won us the games But YOU shouldn't criticize him because he has done good so far.

Your making fun of the goal he has scored against Bayern? are you serious, your COMPLAINING because he has scored a goal? what Century are your living in? No matter how the goal was, He scored a goal FFS.

Still talking about the Years, want me to start Donny??

Last year, Legro,Trezeguet,The whole midfield, Camoranesi, and the rest were like a horse with a broken leg, SO FFS DON'T POINT YOUR FINGER ON DEL PIERO only.

And If you wanna talk about the years before, Didn't we win 2 Scudetto's 01-02, 02-03?? Get a life Don, It's be coming useless when you talk about Del Piero, Still you can't prove us/me sh!t.

Btw, Criticizing Dp doesn't make you cool at all, Seriously.

you know better than that dude. nobody is making fun of "the goal", rather how you guys mention it everytime like del piero won us the game all by himself.

one season versus 5. see a difference

uuuuu look at me i am so cool
 

Monkfish

Senior Member
Jun 14, 2003
557
++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


The thing is Monkfisch, that it doesn't matter how much he sucks as long as he brings us points. And don't give me that crap of "that's not what del piero's supposed to do in this team", because TBH we needed those goals. We didn't need someone playing like Maradona, but not scoring those goals.
That's rubbish.

Just imagine how many more goals we could have scored if we had a striker who actually played well! If DP played better, he would have created a lot more and Juve would have benefitted from that.

To say DP's season can be justified because he scored those goals is a very one sided viewpoint.

Juve's strike force this season could have, potentially, been so much better than it actually was. Juve may have sewn up the scudetto by now and still been in the CL (of course they may not have) - we'll never know.

But saying DP scored those goals so his season was good is nieve, and untrue.

Did he score those goals - Yes. Did he play well? No. Could Juve have scored a lot more if he had played better - Most probably.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



you know better than that dude. nobody is making fun of "the goal", rather how you guys mention it everytime like del piero won us the game all by himself.

one season versus 5. see a difference

uuuuu look at me i am so cool
Fine, DP is shit. I guess you know better than the managment of one of the biggest clubs in the world and than numerous coaches on the highest level.
 

Dr-Juve

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2004
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problem is that we r always asking for the impossible from DP and expecting to get it
otherwise attacking and criticising him

wiether u like it or not:

DP was behind our goal against Milan
DP scored 2 goals in 7min against Seina in the fisrt leg and another 2 in the second
DP scored a goal in each first and second legs against Roma
DP scored a goal against Lecce (ended with this goal 1-0)
DP scored a goal against Livorno, it was the first
Dp scored a goal against reggina and it was the winning goal (ended 1-0)

DP scored the first goal against Fiorentina
DP scored the first goal against parma recently

DP has scored all the penalties he got (not an easy thing)

DP is one of the most important player in squad
 

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