Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (192 Viewers)

[Monkfish]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


You got some members in this Party, just annoyin me (m_elyyan,Monkfish)etc

Azzurri7, you have been annoying me with your posts for the last 2 years! So what if I am now starting to annoy you? You don't decide who can post here and who can't.

In fact, I would like someone to go through all my posts, cos if they did, they would see that I have never bashed DP, or anyone else on these forums. I don't bash...simple as that.

I have recently been more vocal in my criticisms of DP (because I think he deserves it), I don't think Azzurri7 understands the difference between bashing and criticising.

And Azzurri7, you bash people on these forums more than any other member (from my experience), so for you then to moan about me because I'm 'annoyin' you, is hypocritical and a bit childish. Look through the last few pages of this thread alone, you have called me and m_elyyan countless names and insults.

The "Shutup" movement was created because of posters like Azzurri7 because they never tire of offering the same old (IMO) irrelevant arguments and turning threads into slanging matches. So for him to moan about it's existance is mind blowingly ignorant.

 

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[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++


Azzurri7, you have been annoying me with your posts for the last 2 years! So what if I am now starting to annoy you? You don't decide who can post here and who can't.

In fact, I would like someone to go through all my posts, cos if they did, they would see that I have never bashed DP, or anyone else on these forums. I don't bash...simple as that.

I have recently been more vocal in my criticisms of DP (because I think he deserves it), I don't think Azzurri7 understands the difference between bashing and criticising.

And Azzurri7, you bash people on these forums more than any other member (from my experience), so for you then to moan about me because I'm 'annoyin' you, is hypocritical and a bit childish. Look through the last few pages of this thread alone, you have called me and m_elyyan countless names and insults.

The "Shutup" movement was created because of posters like Azzurri7 because they never tire of offering the same old (IMO) irrelevant arguments and turning threads into slanging matches. So for him to moan about it's existance is mind blowingly ignorant.

I don't think you criticise Del Piero, Monkfish. You bash him. Why? Because you never give any arguments on why Del Piero sucks. You just say he sucks. You have to back that opinion up with arguments if you like it to be called "criticising".

 

[Maher]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


I don't think you criticise Del Piero, Monkfish. You bash him. Why? Because you never give any arguments on why Del Piero sucks . You just say he sucks. You have to back that opinion up with arguments if you like it to be called "criticising".

becasue you never know he is playing

 

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[Monkfish]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


I don't think you criticise Del Piero, Monkfish. You bash him. Why? Because you never give any arguments on why Del Piero sucks. You just say he sucks. You have to back that opinion up with arguments if you like it to be called "criticising".

99% of the time I do back up my arguments.

But, at the point when you joined this thread - I admit I offered you no arguments at all. This was because I was so fed up of giving arguments and being bashed for daring to post something negative about DP, that I had just given up.

So many times I have given detailed reasons for my views...and then a DP lover misinterprets the whole lot and has a go at me. So basically, at that point I gave up giving arguments and just criticised him, I was going to get bashed for it either way so why bother with all the effort.

But, even though I didn't back my arguments up, I wasn't bashing him. I just wasn't backing up my criticisms with evidence...this doesn't constitute 'bashing'. Nothing that I said was out of order, none of it was unfounded...had you watched DP this season in an unbiaised way - you would have understood (or at least empathised with) my posts and not needed to ask for back up arguments.

 

[Monkfish]

++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++


becasue you never know he is playing

You may think m_elayyan is taking the p*ss - but it is so true!

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++


99% of the time I do back up my arguments.

But, at the point when you joined this thread - I admit I offered you no arguments at all. This was because I was so fed up of giving arguments and being bashed for daring to post something negative about DP, that I had just given up.

So many times I have given detailed reasons for my views...and then a DP lover misinterprets the whole lot and has a go at me. So basically, at that point I gave up giving arguments and just criticised him, I was going to get bashed for it either way so why bother with all the effort.

But, even though I didn't back my arguments up, I wasn't bashing him. I just wasn't backing up my criticisms with evidence...this doesn't constitute 'bashing'. Nothing that I said was out of order, none of it was unfounded...had you watched DP this season in an unbiaised way - you would have understood (or at least empathised with) my posts and not needed to ask for back up arguments.

The thing is I did see Del Piero in an unbiased way this season. I never ever said he's the best member of the team, I just stated that he must have done something right, because he did score those 12 goals. Your criticism is harsh at times and when you don't back it up with arguments it certainly does look unfounded and out of order. I can understand however that you're fed up with giving arguments. I just believe that Del Piero was, to a certain extent, valuable to us this season.

 

[Bjerknes]

Actually, Monkfish in the past has always tried to criticise Del Piero reasonably and in an objective manner, giving good arguments to support his claim. In response to those arguments people gave him insults, so he started to get more and more fed up with the whole thing. People didn't listen to him then, and now he seems to not even care anymore because nobody would listen to him the first place. That's what happens when people bring personal insults into arguements.

 

[Seven]

You're the one to talk, Andy.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yes I am, because it's become the same in my case. I just gave it up a long time ago because the argument is futile without objective minds.

 

[Seven]

Hmm.. so far I have only used FACTS in this thread and therefore I don't think I can be called subjective. I admit a lot of so called DP-lovers are highly subjective, but so are a lot of DP-bashers. My conclusion is that we needed DP's 12 goals this season, but that he (once again) didn't play a very consistant season.

 

[Monkfish]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Actually, Monkfish in the past has always tried to criticise Del Piero reasonably and in an objective manner, giving good arguments to support his claim. In response to those arguments people gave him insults, so he started to get more and more fed up with the whole thing. People didn't listen to him then, and now he seems to not even care anymore because nobody would listen to him the first place. That's what happens when people bring personal insults into arguements.

Thanks Andy, I appreciate that.

And Seven, it wasn't any of your posts which insulted or bashed people on here, it was some of the other 'pro' DP posters. You just came along when everyone was p*ssed off with them...and you might have got the brunt of it.

I knew I hadn't given you any arguments, I just couldn't bring myself to write it all out.......again.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++


Thanks Andy, I appreciate that.

And Seven, it wasn't any of your posts which insulted or bashed people on here, it was some of the other 'pro' DP posters. You just came along when everyone was p*ssed off with them...and you might have got the brunt of it.

I knew I hadn't given you any arguments, I just couldn't bring myself to write it all out.......again.

Sure, no problem, I can understand you. It's just that it looked like bashing because you didn't give any arguments. And I admit some pro DP posters are well.. too much to handle..

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Actually, Monkfish in the past has always tried to criticise Del Piero reasonably and in an objective manner, giving good arguments to support his claim. In response to those arguments people gave him insults, so he started to get more and more fed up with the whole thing. People didn't listen to him then, and now he seems to not even care anymore because nobody would listen to him the first place. That's what happens when people bring personal insults into arguements.

This does not apply only in Monkfish, thank you for spotting the light on it like that

 

[Elnur_E65]

Oh man... I've missed yet again a great discussion on Del Piero

 

[- vOnAm -]

darn, me too...

 

[Codino]

haha. there will be plenty more to come

 

[Stu]

Any news on DP's injury?

 

[ZhiXin]

++ [ originally posted by Elnur_E65 ] ++
Oh man... I've missed yet again a great discussion on Del Piero

++ [ originally posted by - vOnAm - ] ++
darn, me too...

And the same old arguments return

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++
As usual we say before every game , we hope that dp do something , this is his chance to do his thing IF HE CAN

m-elayyan, I just don't know who lied to you and told ya that your funny, infact your not.