Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (106 Viewers)

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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Didn't Ciro himself state that? He said Del Piero was too much to handle and it was too hard to bench him.
Ciro said "Del Piero makes himself always available, and he is eager and wants to play every game for Juventus"..

Thats says more about Del Piero's passion to Juventus and football than anything else.
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
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more stupid than being tied 1-1 against Napoli and taking DP off for Grygera (and eventually losing 1-3) ?
more because from the moment we lost with bayern our players started to play anything but football...the confidence level was low + the decision of keeping ciro
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Champions league:

Bordeaux 2-0 Juve:

He started, again cause we had no other forwards available, and played for 68 minutes. Then Immobile (the only forward on the bench) replace him.
I think that before that match we played a 4-2-3-1:

Trezeguet (Amauri)
Giovinco-Diego-Camoranesi​

And we were scoring 5 goals per match. We expected that against Bordeaux but Ciro decided to go with this:
Amauri
Del Piero-Diego-Camoranesi​

And he left Seba on the bench, just to play Del Piero out of position.
That's when Ciro fucked it up and after that match everything started going downhill.
 

JCK

Biased
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May 11, 2004
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I think that before that match we played a 4-2-3-1:

Trezeguet (Amauri)
Giovinco-Diego-Camoranesi​

And we were scoring 5 goals per match. We expected that against Bordeaux but Ciro decided to go with this:
Amauri
Del Piero-Diego-Camoranesi​

And he left Seba on the bench, just to play Del Piero out of position.
That's when Ciro fucked it up and after that match everything started going downhill.
I remember very well, we still had a good chance in the CL and a decent position in Serie A and that's when I asked for sacking Ciro, at half time against Bordeaux.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I think that before that match we played a 4-2-3-1:

Trezeguet (Amauri)
Giovinco-Diego-Camoranesi​

And we were scoring 5 goals per match. We expected that against Bordeaux but Ciro decided to go with this:
Amauri
Del Piero-Diego-Camoranesi​

And he left Seba on the bench, just to play Del Piero out of position.
That's when Ciro fucked it up and after that match everything started going downhill.
Come on now.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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We played 4-2-3-1 on 4 matches (3 and a half actually) from late October till mid November and on two of them we scored 5 goals (Sampdoria 5:1 and Atalanta 5:2). After the fiasco against Bordeaux and when Ciro realized that he can't keep the 4-2-3-1 with Del Piero in the team, he started playing 4-3-1-2 again.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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We played 4-2-3-1 on 4 matches (3 and a half actually) from late October till mid November and on two of them we scored 5 goals (Sampdoria 5:1 and Atalanta 5:2). After the fiasco against Bordeaux and when Ciro realized that he can't keep the 4-2-3-1 with Del Piero in the team, he started playing 4-3-1-2 again.
On two of them.

If something happens twice that doesn't mean it generally happens. You made it sounds as if we were scoring 5 goals a game for games in a row.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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On two of them.

If something happens twice that doesn't mean it generally happens. You made it sounds as if we were scoring 5 goals a game for games in a row.
Sorry if that's how you understood it. The fact is that on those 3 matches where we played with Seba-Diego-Camo behind a striker, we won all 3 and on two we scored 5 goals (we never scored more than 2-3 after that till the end of the season). The other match when we started the same formation was against Napoli, but early in the first half there was some injury so come the 20th-30th minute, Ciro changed the system. We lost that match 2:3 after leading 2:0.

And Bordeaux was the last match when we played 4-2-3-1, but without Giovinco and with Del Piero completely out of position. He came after injury and Ciro put him in a position where he needed to run more and be faster. Completely illogical.

But tbh, Camo got an injury in December, so even if he wanted, Ciro couldn't play the 4-2-3-1 anymore.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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I'm not judging by that theory alone. Ciro even thought of benching him while Del Piero didn't allow that. He was placing an extra pressure on him to play him and hey, benching Alex isn't easy :rolleyes:
Now you're acting like when Media and Press are trying to seek problems between players and coach.

Says who Alex didn't allow that? How? Please explain to me how Alex didn't allow that. I need facts before you make such a statements. Del Piero is a role model and stating such a thing is really down the hill if you don't have facts. It's the same what our rivals would do/say about us to create a bad atmosphere.
It's obvious he's getting weaker every season and there's simply no 36yo striker that can play for 70'
This is the lamest thing one can read.

Is that a rule or what? How come Zidane played all 7matches for France NT in 06 for all 90min? How come Romario was still playing at his best level when hitting late 30's? What about Maldini? He was playing full 90min even at the age of 40. Javier Zanetti? You want me to name you more?

Seriously, I can't even continue this argument if all you people can bring nothing but the "No player can play full 90min when he's 36".... Guess what? It's not you who decides, neither the coach, there's a fitness coach and there's a big staff working for his fitness and they're more aware of his physical condition.

Just like when the same thing was said last year and before. He was getting standing ovation all over. One wonders why, is it because of his performances or because he's getting old and can't keep on running. :sergio:
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to Ciro's quote. You have no proof he didn't say that but it sounded like that, at least when you look how Ciro said it.

This is the lamest thing one can read.

Is that a rule or what? How come Zidane played all 7matches for France NT in 06 for all 90min? How come Romario was still playing at his best level when hitting late 30's? What about Maldini? He was playing full 90min even at the age of 40. Javier Zanetti? You want me to name you more?

Seriously, I can't even continue this argument if all you people can bring nothing but the "No player can play full 90min when he's 36".... Guess what? It's not you who decides, neither the coach, there's a fitness coach and there's a big staff working for his fitness and they're more aware of his physical condition.

Just like when the same thing was said last year and before. He was getting standing ovation all over. One wonders why, is it because of his performances or because he's getting old and can't keep on running. :sergio:
Zidane was 34 back then? Again he's not a striker and that role is much easier to play for an older player. Romario? Well yeah, I guess he did good at Al-Sadd and Vasco da Gama? Even Ronaldo who weights 110kg plays in Brazil, but that doesn't have to mean a thing. Maldini and Zanetti aren't strikers as far as I know.

Well yeah, they do know more than I do. So if he's not playing right now you also can't moan about it - I guess there's a reason he's not being used.
 

blondu

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Nov 9, 2006
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zidane didn't runned a lot..he knew where he must be in the field and he had the vision to make the ball run for him... but at real he had that midfield line that was one of the best...
 

blondu

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Nov 9, 2006
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Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to Ciro's quote. You have no proof he didn't say that but it sounded like that, at least when you look how Ciro said it.



Zidane was 34 back then? Again he's not a striker and that role is much easier to play for an older player. Romario? Well yeah, I guess he did good at Al-Sadd and Vasco da Gama? Even Ronaldo who weights 110kg plays in Brazil, but that doesn't have to mean a thing. Maldini and Zanetti aren't strikers as far as I know.

Well yeah, they do know more than I do. So if he's not playing right now you also can't moan about it - I guess there's a reason he's not being used.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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When people realize he shouldn't play a whole match and that he's doing us harm as well.
:lol2::lol2: Good one.

Okay, I'll let someone else argue with you here. I can't keep arguing with someone that can't bring the football aspects but state false facts.

But he ISN'T playing entire games. You already have what you want. So why bitch? Simply to degrade the biggest monument this club has ever had?
It becomes fashion here. Everyone who wants to look cool he has to degrade Alessandro Del Piero. Hey look at me, I'm against Del Piero, how do I look? I know people will be pissed but it will make me look special.

That means he was actually sharing a couple of words with Ciro when being benched. Or maybe not, I see it that way.
:howler:
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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That guy is a freak of nature. The same rules don't count for him. :D

He's an exception of the rule. Del Piero obviously isn't. Even a hard working player like Nedved, who previously looked like he can play 2X90 minutes, started losing speed and stamina when he turned 34-35.
 

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