Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (125 Viewers)
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I see contradiction in your post mate. You say you know how much work he's doing and in a way that it's not his fault he hasn't been getting services on the pitch and help but doing everything himself, then you say he has to get used not being 1st team selection.
Personally, I'm very satisfied with his work, and I don't judge his performances based on what our team are doing. Each one has an individual rating and should be scanned apart from what our team are doing.
This is part of Football. Manchester depend on Cristiano, Chelsea Lampard, Roma Totti, Real Raul, Milan Kaka, Inter Zlatan. It's part of this game.
One thing I can assure you after following Ale since 1994, is that you put a decent middle and organize your team, and you got the best player in your team and of course I'm talking about Del Piero.
Just give him a decent middle and you'll see what he's capable of doing. Forget his age but focus on his performance.
Personally, I'm very satisfied with his work, and I don't judge his performances based on what our team are doing. Each one has an individual rating and should be scanned apart from what our team are doing.
This is part of Football. Manchester depend on Cristiano, Chelsea Lampard, Roma Totti, Real Raul, Milan Kaka, Inter Zlatan. It's part of this game.
One thing I can assure you after following Ale since 1994, is that you put a decent middle and organize your team, and you got the best player in your team and of course I'm talking about Del Piero.
Just give him a decent middle and you'll see what he's capable of doing. Forget his age but focus on his performance.
True. I mean how could he not pass the ball to our flanks? Molinaro or Zebina/Grygera? Why didn't he even try to combine with Iaquinta since he's got a great vision? Why not play 1 2 with Marchionni.
Did you even watch our game last night? The only one player that can pass the ball properly is Del Piero, the only ONE player. We couldn't even make 3 straight passes had it not been Del Piero on the field. FFS.
Did you even watch our game last night? The only one player that can pass the ball properly is Del Piero, the only ONE player. We couldn't even make 3 straight passes had it not been Del Piero on the field. FFS.
Seriously, blame Del Piero when he deserves to be blamed, but yesterday certainly wasn't the time to blame him.
He did make one mistake not to pass to Iaquinta when he decided to shoot from dead angle, but the way he gave everything, defended, took the ball in our own half after he saw how incompetent our midfielders are, ran up and down all the time, won fouls, a penalty, gave his all on the pitch.....i admired him yesterday but i also felt sorry for him when i saw that he's forced to do the job of 3 players.
He did make one mistake not to pass to Iaquinta when he decided to shoot from dead angle, but the way he gave everything, defended, took the ball in our own half after he saw how incompetent our midfielders are, ran up and down all the time, won fouls, a penalty, gave his all on the pitch.....i admired him yesterday but i also felt sorry for him when i saw that he's forced to do the job of 3 players.
I won't start a DP discussion, but you will have to agree, that his performance in the last 2 games, was not a usual DP performance. I just think, that he was way to selfish in key moments (it was not just once, you know that) and his free-kicks haven't been the same lately!
Maybe he needs a break. I don't know. Maybe he also needs Amauri back....
Maybe he needs a break. I don't know. Maybe he also needs Amauri back....
who the hell makes them up?
No argue there. But it also shows one more thing: How great and legendary Ale is. He's been the best Juve player so far this season, Juve is second in the league above Milan, Roma, Fiorentina, etc and still his season is being considered as a bad one
Rab, I'm trying to be practical here; what I'm saying is that I don't fault him for our team's shortcomings now, but if we are honest with ourselves, and we want to excel in multiple competitions next year, then it isn't realistic/prudent to depend so heavily (at times almost solely) on a 35 year old player for our team's creativity.
Not to mention that at any time, he could get hurt and we'd be totally fucked - a la Roma this season.
If Alex is playing well, we should obviously continue to play him in a lot of games - especially the important ones. But soon he'll have to sit down more than he currently does, especially when we play some of the low tier teams, in order to keep him fresh. Right now, because we have so few creative options, it's difficult to sit Alex even when he is a little off form, or could likely use a rest. Also, a fresh Alex occasionally coming off the bench to face tired defenders could turn out to be a real advantage for us at times.
I don't want to see Alex's situation handled the same way we handled Pavel's, running him into the ground for 90 minutes, twice a week, out of perceived necessity.
I love Alex; he's a born leader. When I say that he has to get used to not starting every game, what I'm saying is that as the captain of our team, it's going to be essential for him to show the right attitude when he's not playing as much as he would like to - which is soon to be inevitable, at this stage of his career. The man is a fierce competitor, and wants to play every single minute!! Frankly, I love him for that competitive drive, but adjustments are necessary as players age. A lot of WC players have difficulty keeping their egos in check when their careers start to decline, although I'm confident that Alex can.
As for teams being dependent on one player... it's true, the dominant teams almost always have one player who is an absolute stud, standing well above the others. Of course Manchester United, Madrid, Chelsea and Inter have made MANY big purchases to support their top player with other world class players.
Roma has not had that option, and they have suffered heavily for it.
We need to continue to improve our team, and we're obviously on the same page about an impact mid like Diego being the best thing for Alex. Our lineup certainly needs an immediate injection of technical quality at several positions, but our strike force isn't one of them.
FORZA JUVENTUS, FORZA ALESSANDRO DEL PIERO!!
Not to mention that at any time, he could get hurt and we'd be totally fucked - a la Roma this season.
If Alex is playing well, we should obviously continue to play him in a lot of games - especially the important ones. But soon he'll have to sit down more than he currently does, especially when we play some of the low tier teams, in order to keep him fresh. Right now, because we have so few creative options, it's difficult to sit Alex even when he is a little off form, or could likely use a rest. Also, a fresh Alex occasionally coming off the bench to face tired defenders could turn out to be a real advantage for us at times.
I don't want to see Alex's situation handled the same way we handled Pavel's, running him into the ground for 90 minutes, twice a week, out of perceived necessity.
I love Alex; he's a born leader. When I say that he has to get used to not starting every game, what I'm saying is that as the captain of our team, it's going to be essential for him to show the right attitude when he's not playing as much as he would like to - which is soon to be inevitable, at this stage of his career. The man is a fierce competitor, and wants to play every single minute!! Frankly, I love him for that competitive drive, but adjustments are necessary as players age. A lot of WC players have difficulty keeping their egos in check when their careers start to decline, although I'm confident that Alex can.
As for teams being dependent on one player... it's true, the dominant teams almost always have one player who is an absolute stud, standing well above the others. Of course Manchester United, Madrid, Chelsea and Inter have made MANY big purchases to support their top player with other world class players.
Roma has not had that option, and they have suffered heavily for it.
We need to continue to improve our team, and we're obviously on the same page about an impact mid like Diego being the best thing for Alex. Our lineup certainly needs an immediate injection of technical quality at several positions, but our strike force isn't one of them.
FORZA JUVENTUS, FORZA ALESSANDRO DEL PIERO!!
1- He was never selfish. Remove that word from your dictionary please. Check his assists and you'll figure out the answer yourself.
2- If sometimes he tends to keep the ball with him, that's because he has no better alternative. Check our players performance and ratings and you'll probably understand why he was sometimes keeping the ball at his feet.
3- Do you really think he wants to be selfish? That's if he ever was. Do you really think he wants to tire himself, run from the middle and try to score himself when there's no one to help him? Be real I say.
As for the Freekicks part, and the most important thing, once you always expect him to score a freekick shows how much a person knows about football. Scoring a freekick isn't as easy as some of you think. And I hope you don't go around your living room insulting him for each freekick he doesn't score.
2- If sometimes he tends to keep the ball with him, that's because he has no better alternative. Check our players performance and ratings and you'll probably understand why he was sometimes keeping the ball at his feet.
3- Do you really think he wants to be selfish? That's if he ever was. Do you really think he wants to tire himself, run from the middle and try to score himself when there's no one to help him? Be real I say.
As for the Freekicks part, and the most important thing, once you always expect him to score a freekick shows how much a person knows about football. Scoring a freekick isn't as easy as some of you think. And I hope you don't go around your living room insulting him for each freekick he doesn't score.
To 1.) - Oh yes, he was. In the Chievo game and in the Genoa game he was. We could have scored with an easy pass, and usually I would have expected him to pass. I just wasn't used to see it.
To 2.) - I agree with that. Mostly its because of that, but really, I am not talking about the season or DP in general, I am just talking about the last two games. There he had better options.
To 3.) - No, of course not, and I also admired the way he tried to help the midfield in the second half, but in the end, its the goals and the chances we have missed, that matter the most, and thats what I will remember about the last two games. His overall performance was not how its used to be
Of course I am not expecting him to score with every free-kick. I have never said that, so please don't question my football knowledge. But they weren't even close lately.
I don't know whats wrong with him, but in the last two games he was bad. Maybe he has a problem with Ranieri, maybe its a problem with the other players, I don't know. But he has to step it up, or otherwise this form will get worse.
To 2.) - I agree with that. Mostly its because of that, but really, I am not talking about the season or DP in general, I am just talking about the last two games. There he had better options.
To 3.) - No, of course not, and I also admired the way he tried to help the midfield in the second half, but in the end, its the goals and the chances we have missed, that matter the most, and thats what I will remember about the last two games. His overall performance was not how its used to be
Of course I am not expecting him to score with every free-kick. I have never said that, so please don't question my football knowledge. But they weren't even close lately.
I don't know whats wrong with him, but in the last two games he was bad. Maybe he has a problem with Ranieri, maybe its a problem with the other players, I don't know. But he has to step it up, or otherwise this form will get worse.
True, but at times I feel he wants to do the job of three players. I don't mean this in a bad way, but it can be too much. Personally I don't think it matters if Del Piero plays a great season or not, it is obvious that we need more creativity anyway, because Ale won't last forever. Even if we hope he will.