Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (239 Viewers)

[Stu]

Again, that's not Del Piero's fault. The people who hype him up and expect him to put in world-beating performances are the ones that make him controversial. In my view DP is an average player capable of brilliance every now and again and I base my expectations of him on that.

 

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[Stu]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

I'm blaming both, altho the management is at fault.

How can you blame both? Del Piero doesn't decide who stays and who goes. It isn't his fault that we sold Baggio, Inzaghi, Kovacevic, Miccoli and Di Vaio and opted to hold onto him. Blame the management. Blame Lippi for starting DP when Micco and Diva were in better form. Blame Moggi for not offloading him when we could have gotten a good deal and bought someone better. Blame the club for giving him a contract as lucrative as his is, but don't blame Del Piero.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


No I'm not. The reason is that he had been kept in the squad for years when more in form players had been kept on the benh. Trezeguet was on the bench in his first season, and he scored 14 goals, Kovačević was sold despite scoring regularly, and having like 11 goals in 9 matches in the Intertoto cup, Miccoli was sold because of Del Piero as was Di Vaio, and all of these players were kept on the bench despite being in better form.





First of all, there is no truth in those statements whatsoever. I have no reason to like Zlatan more than Del Piero. I dont hate Alex, I have nothing against him personaly. I do not critisize him simply because Zlatan is Bosnian, nor is Zlatan my favourite football player, Barbarez is. I do not believe Ibrahimović is God, in fact I do not believe in God in general. All I think is that he's currently the better player than Alessandro Del Piero. And I try to be as objective as I can. I simply state facts. Del Piero is slow. He is weak. He doesnt play with passion anymore. Those are not my personal feelings, those are fascts, and if you refuse to acknowledge them, then you are biased.

Zlatan has absolutely nothing to do with Del Piero, I had the same feelings about Alex long before Zlatan joined us, so I dont bash him simply because Zlatan is of Bosnian origin. Get your facts straight.

1- You don't wanna talk about statics, because Dp owns it, So don't try comparing Kova and Di Vaio and Micco and etc...These guys can do more then Alex in certain moments and then Stop...

2- Am getting ma facts Z....There is no Captain that doesn't play with Passio, There is no Captain that doesn't fight....Your always looking at the negatives things Dp is doing, try to move to the Positive. I doubt you bashing Zlatan if he sucked all the season, you'll back him up, am not against because am always backing my Captain...So the Point is we always have to try not to criticize our players ( It wont Help ffs )....

If Dp would have scored hattrick against Madrid you would try your best to find Small mistake he did on the pitch and criticize him and forget the 3goals he scored....

 

[Bjerknes]

So I'm trying to figure out what this thread is actually for. Is this thread for bashing Del Piero, for praising Del Piero, or for bashing people like me who criticise our players?

Either way, it's worthless. At the moment all of our forwards are piss poor.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Burke: No offence but i don't think he knows Dp, maybe he should look at Ballack or Kahn more, I think he's always criticizing our Captain, just because he sees Andy doing this or maybe because Andy is asking him too....

Why are you making assumptions like that? Why on earth would I ask someone to bash Del Piero like Burke does? I don't need any help with arguements and I don't ask people to help me either.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++

2- Am getting ma facts Z....There is no Captain that doesn't play with Passio, There is no Captain that doesn't fight....

There is, and he's called Alessandro Del Piero.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++Andy: I can't say alot about Andy, It shows sometimes he's happy when Dp is doing good....

Why would I not be happy when Del Piero is doing well? I would be estatic if Del Piero regained some of his better form.

 

[legend delpiero]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
So I'm trying to figure out what this thread is actually for. Is this thread for bashing Del Piero, for praising Del Piero, or for bashing people like me who criticise our players?

Either way, it's worthless. At the moment all of our forwards are piss poor.

haha andy i agree with u entirely they are just that 'piss poor'

 

[Daddi]

I miss Salas, that's how crappy our forwards are!

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by legend delpiero ] ++


haha andy i agree with u entirely they are just that 'piss poor'

It's not just the forwards though. The midfield cannot even keep posession for an extended amount of time, and stringing just a few passes together without losing it is like asking a blind man to climb a wall. Our forwards would not look as bad if there was decent service out of midfield.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Why are you making assumptions like that? Why on earth would I ask someone to bash Del Piero like Burke does? I don't need any help with arguements and I don't ask people to help me either.

Need backup or Teasing us, because he's good at teasing:fero:...

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


There is, and he's called Alessandro Del Piero.

People like you can be counted, while fans like me whom do think that Alessandro Del Piero is a real captain and Fighter, Cannot be counted...

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Need backup or Teasing us, because he's good at teasing:fero:...

Well, that did not make much sense. Burke does whatever he wants and he is a separate entitiy from myself; I don't ask him to tease you lot because that is something too trivial for me.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


People like you can be counted, while fans like me whom do think that Alessandro Del Piero is a real captain and Fighter, Cannot be counted...

Just because there's more of you doenst mean youre right. Like I said before, the guy in my avatar is a real captain. Del Piero will never be that guy, he will never have that spirit or that sense of leadership.

Captains are supposed to lead by example.

 

[Monkfish]

I think DP leads by example off the pitch, he doesn't use the press to air his grievances, he accepts decisions (i.e being subbed) gracefully, and is a model professional.

But I agree Zlatan, on the pitch he doesn't lead by example. He doesn't instill a fighting spirit in the other players, he doesn't appear to work too hard when things aren't going well and at times, he can be pretty non-existant out there.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


Just because there's more of you doenst mean youre right. Like I said before, the guy in my avatar is a real captain. Del Piero will never be that guy, he will never have that spirit or that sense of leadership.

Captains are supposed to lead by example.

So we are the wrong, and you are the right??

Are you expecting Dp carrying a stick with him and running after Blasi or Zebina, your not on the pitch with them to hear what DP is asking them, i've saw many times Dp talking to the team Many times, but still as i said wer'e not living on the pitch to hear them, Raul is almost the same as Dp, does that make him a non Leader???, Totti also, i never saw him shouting, Figo when he was Captain of Barca, Dunga Captain of Brazil 1994---->1998, these players are worldclass, and not anyone can put them Captain, So it's not up to you to say If Dp is good Captain or not...

Maybe we should ask the Camera Man, to stick on Dp while shouting to his team-mates or giving them some words...Because it could be the Camera man's fault not Dp...

 

[legend delpiero]

dude why was this thread opened

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


So we are the wrong, and you are the right??

Are you expecting Dp carrying a stick with him and running after Blasi or Zebina, your not on the pitch with them to hear what DP is asking them, i've saw many times Dp talking to the team Many times, but still as i said wer'e not living on the pitch to hear them, Raul is almost the same as Dp, does that make him a non Leader???, Totti also, i never saw him shouting, Figo when he was Captain of Barca, Dunga Captain of Brazil 1994---->1998, these players are worldclass, and not anyone can put them Captain, So it's not up to you to say If Dp is good Captain or not...

Maybe we should ask the Camera Man, to stick on Dp while shouting to his team-mates or giving them some words...Because it could be the Camera man's fault not Dp...

leading is more than shouting or talking to players, it's about showing them how to act with your example, an DP cant do that.

 

[Azzurri7]

Explain more please..

 

[Dan]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++
Btw Seven...You mentioned 3 Names there, I can only see Andy between them that knows about Dp more then Zlatan and Burke,

Burke: No offence but i don't think he knows Dp, maybe he should look at Ballack or Kahn more, I think he's always criticizing our Captain, just because he sees Andy doing this or maybe because Andy is asking him too....

Zlatan: This guy trys hard to be cool by bashing Dp, ( I think i know why he's always up here to bash, SIMPLY BECAUSE ZLATAN IS BOSNIAN ) i know how it feels...He's trying to turn off the lights off on Dp, and try to convince us that Zlatan Ibra is a God just because he's from Bosnia...

Andy: I can't say alot about Andy, It shows sometimes he's happy when Dp is doing good....

seriously dude what the hell is wrong with you?

Albeit i do not know andy, but i seriously doubt he lacks the quality of life to ask his friend to critize del piero.

Zlatan tries to be cool? People smoke and take drugs to be cool, bashing del piero doesnt make you cool or uncool. Really dude.

2- Am getting ma facts Z....There is no Captain that doesn't play with Passio, There is no Captain that doesn't fight....Your always looking at the negatives things Dp is doing, try to move to the Positive. I doubt you bashing Zlatan if he sucked all the season, you'll back him up, am not against because am always backing my Captain...So the Point is we always have to try not to criticize our players ( It wont Help ffs )....

If Dp would have scored hattrick against Madrid you would try your best to find Small mistake he did on the pitch and criticize him and forget the 3goals he scored....

Dont try and be so negative? At least he doesnt have a name that picks on Capello because he doesnt play an out of form del piero. Do you want us to win for crying out loud? What makes you think for a second that you suddenly know more about juventus, or football that matter, then Capello? Do you monitor Alex's fitness and playing ability daily? Do you get reports on his fitness levels?

As for looking at the negativity, the only mistake in your eyes this season is capello not playing DP. You cant argue with a man who lead serie A up until now, and has conceded the least goals in the CL and Serie A. Please, look at the positives Capello has done for the TEAM before you kiss the bit of turf you took from the bottom of DP's shoe.