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Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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Umm....who is starting in midfield? Does he actually plan to use Koop and Douglas Luiz? Is the answer Locatelli and McKennie?

Thuram is the only player I rate in our midfield. Thuram needs help...
if we play with duo in mid, then the starters are Loca and Thuram, but in this case we are overcrowded with McKennie, Koop and Luiz on the bench. There is also Miretti coming back.
We would have 2 our biggest signings from last year (Koop and Luiz) sitting on the bench, cant see it happening, we are probably goona change to play trio in midfield, even if Luiz is probably sold.
That would mean either 352 or 3412, so no wingers then and Mbangula is probably sold while Chico wont be bought. Explains the interest in David too, who might not be the greatest lone striker, but could work really well in duo partnership.

MDG
Kalulu/Savona Bremer/? Gatti/Kelly
Nico/Alberto Loca/DLuiz? Thuram/McKennie Koop/? Cambiaso/Weah?
Yildiz/? David?/?

depending on the future of some players (Weah, DLuiz, Vlaho, Kolo) we would need at least one defender, one mid and one attacker (but probably two).
 
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if we play with duo in mid, then the starters are Loca and Thuram, but in this case we are overcrowded with McKennie, Koop and Luiz on the bench. There is also Miretti coming back.
We would have 2 our biggest signings from last year (Koop and Luiz) sitting on the bench, cant see it happening, we are probably goona change to play trio in midfield, even if Luiz is probably sold.
That would mean either 352 or 3412, so no wingers then and Mbangula is probably sold while Chico wont be bought. Explains the interest in David too, who might not be the greatest lone striker, but could work really well in duo partnership.

MDG
Kalulu/Savona Bremer/? Gatti/Kelly
Nico/Alberto Loca/DLuiz? Thuram/McKennie Koop/? Cambiaso/Weah?
Yildiz/? David?/?

depending on the future of some players (Weah, DLuiz, Vlaho, Kolo) we would need at least one defender, one mid and one attacker (but probably two).
Great. Selling players for a coach who will be gone in a year...

Play a 433 if you want 3 CM's.
 
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Any coach can not deliver. As of now he’s been the only one delivering anything resembling progress
What progress?

We only ended up keeping him because we failed to sign a bigger name, he knows it, everyone knows it. He's nothing more but a fill gap. No idea why we would give him a long contract, but since we love doing stupid stuff, it's probably true.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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What progress?

We only ended up keeping him because we failed to sign a bigger name, he knows it, everyone knows it. He's nothing more but a fill gap. No idea why we would give him a long contract, but since we love doing stupid stuff, it's probably true.
Well he took a team that wouldn’t have made champions league and made it. He took players that were sleepy and shitty anf started bringing them to life. Started to instill the grinta we lack
 

Alen

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How do you know Tudor will be gone in a year ? He’s getting a multi year extension as we speak
I've been following your posts for months. Even though I haven’t said anything until now, I just want to say that I really appreciate your work as a guru :tup:
The summer mercato discussions are the heart of this forum, and those who bring actual inside info are its backbone. Sadly, there aren't many real gurus left. Thanks for being one of the best, if not THE best.
 

AndreaCristiano

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I've been following your posts for months. Even though I haven’t said anything until now, I just want to say that I really appreciate your work as a guru :tup:
The summer mercato discussions are the heart of this forum, and those who bring actual inside info are its backbone. Sadly, there aren't many real gurus left. Thanks for being one of the best, if not THE best.
I don’t know if serious but I try to bring whatever info I get it may not always be right but a lot of insiders get things wrong. I have some connections and I tell what I hear to try and bring info to this forum because I enjoy it and think for the most part we’re a cool Juventus fanbase
 

mondo1

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May 14, 2006
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Well he took a team that wouldn’t have made champions league and made it. He took players that were sleepy and shitty anf started bringing them to life. Started to instill the grinta we lack
He did that ? We looked clueless until the last second of the season - he’s a shit coach and won’t last more than a year. Can’t get more mediocre than Tudor. Which grinta ? The stupid red cards ?


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AndreaCristiano

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He did that ? We looked clueless until the last second of the season - he’s a shit coach and won’t last more than a year. Can’t get more mediocre than Tudor. Which grinta ? The stupid red cards ?


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Bro he took a disheveled team from a twat like Motta that defeated them mentally and physically and turned them around. You think it would have taken one game ? He only had a hand full of games to coach. How did you not see growth?
 

Alen

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I don’t know if serious but I try to bring whatever info I get it may not always be right but a lot of insiders get things wrong. I have some connections and I tell what I hear to try and bring info to this forum because I enjoy it and think for the most part we’re a cool Juventus fanbase
Appreciated :tup:

I wasn't joking. There are very few gurus left. Or if you don't consider yourself a guru, let's just say members who actually share transfer info.
If I’ve been following correctly, there are only four of you. You and Badass bring the real news. Mark is cosi cosi. The Belarusian guy tries, but he misses more than he hits.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Appreciated :tup:

I wasn't joking. There are very few gurus left. Or if you don't consider yourself a guru, let's just say members who actually share transfer info.
If I’ve been following correctly, there are only four of you. You and Badass bring the real news. Mark is cosi cosi. The Belarusian guy tries, but he misses more than he hits.
I appreciate it. I try and I know badass and Mark do as well. To me the contrarian view from some when we post is strange. Just because we don’t have a 100% track record I still believe it’s better that we bring the info and leave it out here for consumption it adds to the flavor of tuz
 

mondo1

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Of course it takes more than a few days / weeks but srsly our game plan and play didn’t improve really. We hardly created anything looked easily disposed and confused. His tactics are aweful.
Gonna be honest I can’t stand him and maybe that’s prejudice but until now he looks like another mediocre shit coach.

He’s all talk and no action. Talked like a winner and he won’t sit back blah blah but shit his pants every single time


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Alen

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I appreciate it. I try and I know badass and Mark do as well. To me the contrarian view from some when we post is strange. Just because we don’t have a 100% track record I still believe it’s better that we bring the info and leave it out here for consumption it adds to the flavor of tuz
Absolutely. Back in the day, the mercato was fun. We used to keep score. I’d give points to the gurus. Plus pts for a hit, minus for a miss. Badass won it quite comfortably and has held the crown for a decade.
I might bring that system back this summer. Could be fun. And honestly, I think we might finally have a real challenger to take that crown off @Badass J Elkann's head ;)
 

AndreaCristiano

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Of course it takes more than a few days / weeks but srsly our game plan and play didn’t improve really. We hardly created anything looked easily disposed and confused. His tactics are aweful.
Gonna be honest I can’t stand him and maybe that’s prejudice but until now he looks like another mediocre shit coach.

He’s all talk and no action. Talked like a winner and he won’t sit back blah blah but shit his pants every single time


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We also had the same shit players that were ineffective under allegri , Motta and continued under Tudor

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Absolutely. Back in the day, the mercato was fun. We used to keep score. I’d give points to the gurus. Plus pts for a hit, minus for a miss. Badass won it quite comfortably and has held the crown for a decade.
I might bring that system back this summer. Could be fun. And honestly, I think we might finally have a real challenger to take that crown off @Badass J Elkann's head ;)
I do agree. It was seriously fun. The speculation, the news the drama dun dun daaaa this forum needs more than that
 

Orgut

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Considering 3-4-2-1 Tudor used in his last game:

CB is a must and so is a CF
Conceicao should be acquired - If not we need a strong player who can support the attack
CB - Leoni? He could actually fix our defense but he needs Bremer fit.
Weah - We can improve on him but it shouldnt be priority no` 1
Locatelli - I think most here really underrate him but obviously Tonali would be an upgrade
Gyokeres Retegui... - Gyokeres would be tough to get, Retegui is a good player but he needs his team to be able to produce - otherwise I see him playing like a player lost on the field.
 
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Considering 3-4-2-1 Tudor used in his last game:

CB is a must and so is a CF
Conceicao should be acquired - If not we need a strong player who can support the attack
CB - Leoni? He could actually fix our defense but he needs Bremer fit.
Weah - We can improve on him but it shouldnt be priority no` 1
Locatelli - I think most here really underrate him but obviously Tonali would be an upgrade
Gyokeres Retegui... - Gyokeres would be tough to get, Retegui is a good player but he needs his team to be able to produce - otherwise I see him playing like a player lost on the field.
Loca will start together with Thuram, we should cement this midfield as we wont get anything better. I have no idea what will happen with Douglas Luiz, will he be able to play in that mid duo? Will Tudor trust him? There is a good player there, but something is just not working, if we sell him then we need another strong CM.

For CB it all depends on Bremer condition if he is unable to come back in full force then we should be spending for some already made CB, Leoni wont be enough for this.

Wingbacks and attack is the biggest question mark.
For wing backs we have Nico (if he keeps playing there, no idea because he really is an attacker, just cant attack), Weah, Alberto Costa and Cambiaso.
On paper this looks good, but Cambiaso, Nico and Weah were so weak playing there for Tudor I really struggle to see us doing good with this guys. Maybe they will come good though, who knows...
I would try to buy at least one real and good Wing back, probably to replace Weah.

Then the attack
Koop is he considered a CAM still or will he be moved to midfield? If its attack then we have:
CF, CF, Yildiz, Conceicao(?), Koop, Mbangula.
My guess is Randal will stay and we will buy Conceicao, in this case we would still need one more CF (maybe David) and someone to be able to play that Winger/CAM role - but that also might be Adzic, who could fit like a glove in that position.
The question mark is also Mbangula as he didnt play at all under Tudor, he might be just sold.
If i had to guess i would say we will have:
Kolo, David, Yildiz, Conceicao, Koop, Adzic and some new signing - will i like it? not really, because I consider both David and Kolo to be a pace merchants more than a real target mans, none of them plays good with their back to the goal, but lets see ...
 

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