Someone should tell him that it's the capital cosplaying as a CB that causes the team to drop so deep.
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The thing I like most about him is that he tries to use every player at his disposal- including Vlahovic, Kelly, Adzic.
Tactically he isn’t very good, but his player management is world class. Not to mention, he has the fino alla fine attitude, something I don’t think we’ve seen in a manager since 2018-19.
Tactically he isn’t very good, but his player management is world class. Not to mention, he has the fino alla fine attitude, something I don’t think we’ve seen in a manager since 2018-19.
Well, we simply look like we have a lot of quality upfront now. Something we sorely lacked in the past seasons. We'll see how it pans out in the long run but our attack was a major part in winning all 3 of our games. The rest has room for improvement ofc but we're pretty steady. If we're spared from injuries, we'll be fine in Serie A at least.
Obvious mistakes on the 3 goals 'though. Bremer shouldn't be the one closest to Calha on the second. No one nowhere near him on the first and a free header for Thuram on a corner kick. Looked like we are marking zonally; seriously? That shit stinks...
Obvious mistakes on the 3 goals 'though. Bremer shouldn't be the one closest to Calha on the second. No one nowhere near him on the first and a free header for Thuram on a corner kick. Looked like we are marking zonally; seriously? That shit stinks...
These 3 matches so far showed us that he's balancing well IMO. We aren't ultra defensive and we also don't throw everything in the attack from the first minute. You can see he worked with Lippi, just like many other good coaches (former players) these days.
Placing players like Adzic, Openda and Joao on the bench and throwing them in later, proved to be a wise choice. Yes, Kalulu is playing out of position, but this has worked for us so far. Every fan would like to see all of creative guys like Joao, Chico, Yildiz, Openda starting all the time, but that doesn't mean you'll always get a win.
We had like 65% possession against Parma and 55% against Genoa. So it's not like we're going to be a counter-attacking team.
This balance he achived is IMO the most important thing for us so far. We deseperately needed that stability along with a gameplan.
Placing players like Adzic, Openda and Joao on the bench and throwing them in later, proved to be a wise choice. Yes, Kalulu is playing out of position, but this has worked for us so far. Every fan would like to see all of creative guys like Joao, Chico, Yildiz, Openda starting all the time, but that doesn't mean you'll always get a win.
We had like 65% possession against Parma and 55% against Genoa. So it's not like we're going to be a counter-attacking team.
This balance he achived is IMO the most important thing for us so far. We deseperately needed that stability along with a gameplan.
I’m ridiculously happy to be wrong here on this match. There are certain clubs in world football that, no matter what, always seem to get close without ever truly being successful. Not because of some “winning DNA” but because of backdoor connections, shady dealings, and pure mafia-style maneuvering. Think Fenerbahçe. Think Inter Milan. Always hanging around, never quite delivering.
To come out on top against that kind of team, to turn it around and win 3–2, feels amazing. Were we lucky? Yes. Did Igor Tudor flip the script? Also yes.
I’m too old to be a “hater,” but let’s keep it real here. My outlook still isn’t positive. Aside from the subs, which was perfect, almost everything else was wrong. We scored off one set piece and two long shots, that’s it. In my eyes we faced a pretty weak and distracted Inter Milan.
You might say, “Come on, it’s Inter, it’s a derby, and Igor Tudor is still new at this level, he’ll grow into it.” And you’d be right. But that’s exactly my issue: Juventus doesn’t have the luxury of time to “raise” a coach. This is the stage where you hire someone already proven, not someone learning on the job. Ignoring the fact that you’re playing the Derby d’Italia, recognizing the weakness of such a big opponent and actually playing to exploit it; that, for me, is the mark of a truly great coach. And I just didn’t see it at all.
But there are positives as well; after going 2-3 down, he actually shook things up and started showing signs of real coaching pedigree. The subs were aggressive and spot on and you could say they straight up won us the game. Luck played a role too, absolutely, but in football luck is always a factor. Those little breaks pile up, you start winning, confidence builds, and eventually you develop that winning habit. And let’s not underestimate it, luck is a trait of great leaders too. Just like Conte was lucky. Just like Napoleon was lucky. If he can pull this off a few more times, I’ll gladly hold my hands up and say, “I was completely wrong about Igor Tudor,” and I’ll back him all the way.
To come out on top against that kind of team, to turn it around and win 3–2, feels amazing. Were we lucky? Yes. Did Igor Tudor flip the script? Also yes.
I’m too old to be a “hater,” but let’s keep it real here. My outlook still isn’t positive. Aside from the subs, which was perfect, almost everything else was wrong. We scored off one set piece and two long shots, that’s it. In my eyes we faced a pretty weak and distracted Inter Milan.
You might say, “Come on, it’s Inter, it’s a derby, and Igor Tudor is still new at this level, he’ll grow into it.” And you’d be right. But that’s exactly my issue: Juventus doesn’t have the luxury of time to “raise” a coach. This is the stage where you hire someone already proven, not someone learning on the job. Ignoring the fact that you’re playing the Derby d’Italia, recognizing the weakness of such a big opponent and actually playing to exploit it; that, for me, is the mark of a truly great coach. And I just didn’t see it at all.
But there are positives as well; after going 2-3 down, he actually shook things up and started showing signs of real coaching pedigree. The subs were aggressive and spot on and you could say they straight up won us the game. Luck played a role too, absolutely, but in football luck is always a factor. Those little breaks pile up, you start winning, confidence builds, and eventually you develop that winning habit. And let’s not underestimate it, luck is a trait of great leaders too. Just like Conte was lucky. Just like Napoleon was lucky. If he can pull this off a few more times, I’ll gladly hold my hands up and say, “I was completely wrong about Igor Tudor,” and I’ll back him all the way.
Makes sense.
But I disagree it was weak and distacted Inter. That was Inter at full strength (while we were missing at least 2 starters). Inter team right now is a group of players that have been playing together for a long time. They managed to dominate in terms of possesion against us. They played better then us in the first half. Despite all of that we won and that is a huge thing for our team and club right now. It seems we are finally coming back in terms of self-confidence, grinta, mentality, Juve DNA...
But I disagree it was weak and distacted Inter. That was Inter at full strength (while we were missing at least 2 starters). Inter team right now is a group of players that have been playing together for a long time. They managed to dominate in terms of possesion against us. They played better then us in the first half. Despite all of that we won and that is a huge thing for our team and club right now. It seems we are finally coming back in terms of self-confidence, grinta, mentality, Juve DNA...
Thats right - It wasnt a weaken Inter - He might be confused with Inzaghi's Inter...
On another matter I wonder if Tudor can provide Locatelli confidence.
At the start he used to provide some nice half lob passes but he then just stopped doing it.
He wasnt bad at them and I think he needs to be encouraged to do so especially now when we have Openda and Conceicao who are very fast
On another matter I wonder if Tudor can provide Locatelli confidence.
At the start he used to provide some nice half lob passes but he then just stopped doing it.
He wasnt bad at them and I think he needs to be encouraged to do so especially now when we have Openda and Conceicao who are very fast
Agree, it was individual talent/class that won it yesterday. So many positives with so many negatives and that summarises the result as well. For starters our defence and mid needs a lot of work. If we sit back, which every team has to, then we need to be a lot more organised. Either way, lets take what we can, because it aint gonna last.