I want juventus to keep vieira , he 's such a good player! maybe for the first season with us he's struggling but i'm sure he will get better in the next one. and i hope also that he will play more offensivly !
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sheesh..all of us know that all Zlatan needs isa wig. He's as good on the ball as Treze ever since he's gone with the egghead look.
Honestly, if we sell ibrahimovic it;ll just show that Juve is a club that doesnt really learn from past mistakes..People want Henry, but we shouldnt be having this problem if we didnt sell him in the first place and instead actually treat him nicely. Sell Ibrahimovic to Real, chances are he'll fit right in to their system and become a world-beater. Keep him and get a more positive coach at helm and he'll prolly be one of our top players for years to come.
Its obvious that Capello has lost alot of motivation to bring Juve any success, and by its not Zlatan's fault alone that has brought this sudden slide in the team.
If they want to have this 'revolution' it should start by signing players that actually are slightly more youthful and have pace. The key reason Arsenal whipped us is only because of their all-round pace. Moggi and co (if they even stay around, hopefully they will) should start opening their eyes and realise that pace actually is the way to go, i mean look at Roma.
Signing Joaquin won't do alot of good i reckon. He never really impressed me and dishing out that much for him seems, for lack of a better word, dumb. I'm all for Gallas and marchioni tho, and along with the rest of this forum, i would hike my way to Juve's hq and burn every copy of Zanetti's new contract. Seriously, when was the last time Juve bought a young talented player with pace (Ibrahimovic is not my idea of pacey btw).
Riquelme could bring some imagination, but no pace. I'd rather see Pizarro, we'll get him at a much cheaper price. I know i'll get abit of stick for this, but van der vaart is perfect. He doesnt have all the pace in the world, but he's a helluva lot better than Mutu in my book. Its a shame we didnt try for Mascherano before he up and joined Corinthians. He'd be a perfect replacement for Emerson (who really needs to play a smaller role in Juve). We dont need both Vieira and Emerson, Vieira's slightly more profitable to keep at the moment in Juve's perspective.
Defence wise, I dont quite have that much knowledge here, but obviously Zebina's way to old, footballing style wise, to play for us. He belongs in a Chievo, or Sampdoria. I dont quite see how the board of directors allows a player who basically hacks at both the ball and at the opposition for a living play in the first team. Atleast Montero had talent. And i don;t see a future for either Balzaretti or Chiellini. Compare with Milans's two wingbacks, Serginho and Cafu, do you see either Balza or Chiellini being as commanding up field as most wingbacks for the top European clubs. I dont.
I don't know, but itseems like this Revolution is just gonna lead to more mediocrity from Juve, especially in Europe. :toast:
Honestly, if we sell ibrahimovic it;ll just show that Juve is a club that doesnt really learn from past mistakes..People want Henry, but we shouldnt be having this problem if we didnt sell him in the first place and instead actually treat him nicely. Sell Ibrahimovic to Real, chances are he'll fit right in to their system and become a world-beater. Keep him and get a more positive coach at helm and he'll prolly be one of our top players for years to come.
Its obvious that Capello has lost alot of motivation to bring Juve any success, and by its not Zlatan's fault alone that has brought this sudden slide in the team.
If they want to have this 'revolution' it should start by signing players that actually are slightly more youthful and have pace. The key reason Arsenal whipped us is only because of their all-round pace. Moggi and co (if they even stay around, hopefully they will) should start opening their eyes and realise that pace actually is the way to go, i mean look at Roma.
Signing Joaquin won't do alot of good i reckon. He never really impressed me and dishing out that much for him seems, for lack of a better word, dumb. I'm all for Gallas and marchioni tho, and along with the rest of this forum, i would hike my way to Juve's hq and burn every copy of Zanetti's new contract. Seriously, when was the last time Juve bought a young talented player with pace (Ibrahimovic is not my idea of pacey btw).
Riquelme could bring some imagination, but no pace. I'd rather see Pizarro, we'll get him at a much cheaper price. I know i'll get abit of stick for this, but van der vaart is perfect. He doesnt have all the pace in the world, but he's a helluva lot better than Mutu in my book. Its a shame we didnt try for Mascherano before he up and joined Corinthians. He'd be a perfect replacement for Emerson (who really needs to play a smaller role in Juve). We dont need both Vieira and Emerson, Vieira's slightly more profitable to keep at the moment in Juve's perspective.
Defence wise, I dont quite have that much knowledge here, but obviously Zebina's way to old, footballing style wise, to play for us. He belongs in a Chievo, or Sampdoria. I dont quite see how the board of directors allows a player who basically hacks at both the ball and at the opposition for a living play in the first team. Atleast Montero had talent. And i don;t see a future for either Balzaretti or Chiellini. Compare with Milans's two wingbacks, Serginho and Cafu, do you see either Balza or Chiellini being as commanding up field as most wingbacks for the top European clubs. I dont.
I don't know, but itseems like this Revolution is just gonna lead to more mediocrity from Juve, especially in Europe. :toast:
Mutu is not a bad player!! Capello has just inexplicably refused to play him where he belongs bcuz 4 some reason he alone understands,Adrian is at his best on d flanks!!
I don't want 2 c us do another "Henry" with Zlatan n Mutu who inspite of their crappy displays are both world class.Considering how influential they both are when playing for their respective countries,IMO Capello needs to rethink how he has been deploying them.Only a MADMAN keeps doing something the same way repeatedly while expecting a different result each time!!!
I don't want 2 c us do another "Henry" with Zlatan n Mutu who inspite of their crappy displays are both world class.Considering how influential they both are when playing for their respective countries,IMO Capello needs to rethink how he has been deploying them.Only a MADMAN keeps doing something the same way repeatedly while expecting a different result each time!!!
Earlier in the season, we here in the forum talked about playing Zlatan in the role that Gudjhonson is playing for Chelsea, an attacking midfielder but not exactly the playmaker type role.
I think it'll suit Zlatan well, he lacks finishing and definately space as anytime he gets the ball he is double teamed.....so give him more time and space to move, put him in an attacking midfield position.
Push Mutu up front with Trez...
I think we need to give Zlatan hiss third season, he's too much of a prospect to lose. Only a gigantic bid will get my blessings for a transfer move out of the Delle Alpi.
I think it'll suit Zlatan well, he lacks finishing and definately space as anytime he gets the ball he is double teamed.....so give him more time and space to move, put him in an attacking midfield position.
Push Mutu up front with Trez...
I think we need to give Zlatan hiss third season, he's too much of a prospect to lose. Only a gigantic bid will get my blessings for a transfer move out of the Delle Alpi.
I agree with a lot of things there. I think pace is needed, but it needs to be utialised proparly. We have very talented players and to be fair, with a different mentality and a less stubborn coach, juve does hahve a very good squad which is onyl missing maybe 2 very much needed players.
1. Playmaker- I personally would like Riquelme. He isnt fast but his creativity and overall movement allows him to really create a lot and do more for the team than someone else can. Pizarro for example is a good midfielder but hasnt got the class of Riquelme and i really dont know of many others out there who will be on the market. Maybe Rosicky...
2. Right back- It is obvious that Cheillini and Balzaretti are not good enough for left back as yet. Zebina is a dudd and a half. Right back is needed IMO.
That would obviously help fix capellos team.
However, I think overall formation should be changed. I would do the following.
buffon
gallas thuram cannavaro
mancini emerson vieira zambrotta
Riquelme
Trezeguet Zlatan
play 3 at the back with Mancini and Zambrotta taking the wings. Emo and Vieira can sit infronto fthe defence with Riquelme pulling the strings with the help of Mancini and Zambrotta on the wings.
1. Playmaker- I personally would like Riquelme. He isnt fast but his creativity and overall movement allows him to really create a lot and do more for the team than someone else can. Pizarro for example is a good midfielder but hasnt got the class of Riquelme and i really dont know of many others out there who will be on the market. Maybe Rosicky...
2. Right back- It is obvious that Cheillini and Balzaretti are not good enough for left back as yet. Zebina is a dudd and a half. Right back is needed IMO.
That would obviously help fix capellos team.
However, I think overall formation should be changed. I would do the following.
buffon
gallas thuram cannavaro
mancini emerson vieira zambrotta
Riquelme
Trezeguet Zlatan
play 3 at the back with Mancini and Zambrotta taking the wings. Emo and Vieira can sit infronto fthe defence with Riquelme pulling the strings with the help of Mancini and Zambrotta on the wings.
As long as Capello leaves I'll be happy. I really don't understand why we would push the likes of Vieira, Mutu and Ibrahimovic out of the club just because of one disappointing season. Get a new manager, sit Zlatan's ass on the bench and play Mutu in his natural position, that's what we should do. Changes are indeed necessary but not as drastic as this.
I get your point about pizarro not bein as classy as Riquelme. But we'll prolly get him under 5mil i reckon, with him playin close to zero games for Inter, and well Inter does have Moratti as their transfer guru so we could even sell them zebina for a more than the 2 cents he's bloddy hell worth. Riquelme on the hand, we'll be fightin against MU and co. Mind you Barca might even buy him back, they do have share in his contract. I just dont see riquelme helping juve as much as you guys put it to be. Ofcourse, being a playmaker doesnt require alot of pace, but as you can see, even teams like Treviso are takin advantage of our lack of it.
btw,
whatever happened to Romagnoli ? that san lorenzo dude.
And i don't see D'Alessandro making a name for himself at portsmouth..hmm..
when's the last time you saw juve playin a regular 3 man defence game after game? Don't quite see how thats gonna happen with a change of coaches either. Most european teams sport a 4 man defence i think anyway. Its bad enough juve hardly have a good wing game goin on, by taking away half of the wing side, trezeguet will lose half of those goals he normally scores. Gallas would be a decent replacement for Thuram to me, but i dont want him on the flanks. And whoever said sagnol was a bad idea was prolly tokin on some shit, cause he's a helluva lot better than Zebina. A blind man could tell you that. Not the best guy for the job, but yea...I'd say we should really wait for the WC to find one but knowin Juve....we'll prolly by someone like Djibril Cisse n put him assa rightback
btw,
whatever happened to Romagnoli ? that san lorenzo dude.
And i don't see D'Alessandro making a name for himself at portsmouth..hmm..
when's the last time you saw juve playin a regular 3 man defence game after game? Don't quite see how thats gonna happen with a change of coaches either. Most european teams sport a 4 man defence i think anyway. Its bad enough juve hardly have a good wing game goin on, by taking away half of the wing side, trezeguet will lose half of those goals he normally scores. Gallas would be a decent replacement for Thuram to me, but i dont want him on the flanks. And whoever said sagnol was a bad idea was prolly tokin on some shit, cause he's a helluva lot better than Zebina. A blind man could tell you that. Not the best guy for the job, but yea...I'd say we should really wait for the WC to find one but knowin Juve....we'll prolly by someone like Djibril Cisse n put him assa rightback
