I hate Macs (2 Viewers)

Martin

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No, not me. I don't hate Macs, I just think they're insanely pretentious and overrated. But this guy does. And it's a story that perfectly illustrates how and why Macs (and their owners :p) can make one sick.


I hate Macs

Charlie Brooker
Monday February 5, 2007
The Guardian

Unless you have been walking around with your eyes closed, and your head encased in a block of concrete, with a blindfold tied round it, in the dark - unless you have been doing that, you surely can't have failed to notice the current Apple Macintosh campaign starring David Mitchell and Robert Webb, which has taken over magazines, newspapers and the internet in a series of brutal coordinated attacks aimed at causing massive loss of resistance. While I don't have anything against shameless promotion per se (after all, within these very brackets I'm promoting my own BBC4 show, which starts tonight at 10pm), there is something infuriating about this particular blitz. In the ads, Webb plays a Mac while Mitchell adopts the mantle of a PC. We know this because they say so right at the start of the ad.

"Hello, I'm a Mac," says Webb.

"And I'm a PC," adds Mitchell.

They then perform a small comic vignette aimed at highlighting the differences between the two computers. So in one, the PC has a "nasty virus" that makes him sneeze like a plague victim; in another, he keeps freezing up and having to reboot. This is a subtle way of saying PCs are unreliable. Mitchell, incidentally, is wearing a nerdy, conservative suit throughout, while Webb is dressed in laid-back contemporary casual wear. This is a subtle way of saying Macs are cool.

The ads are adapted from a near-identical American campaign - the only difference is the use of Mitchell and Webb. They are a logical choice in one sense (everyone likes them), but a curious choice in another, since they are best known for the television series Peep Show - probably the best sitcom of the past five years - in which Mitchell plays a repressed, neurotic underdog, and Webb plays a selfish, self-regarding poseur. So when you see the ads, you think, "PCs are a bit rubbish yet ultimately lovable, whereas Macs are just smug, preening tossers." In other words, it is a devastatingly accurate campaign.

I hate Macs. I have always hated Macs. I hate people who use Macs. I even hate people who don't use Macs but sometimes wish they did. Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.

PCs are the ramshackle computers of the people. You can build your own from scratch, then customise it into oblivion. Sometimes you have to slap it to make it work properly, just like the Tardis (Doctor Who, incidentally, would definitely use a PC). PCs have charm; Macs ooze pretension. When I sit down to use a Mac, the first thing I think is, "I hate Macs", and then I think, "Why has this rubbish aspirational ornament only got one mouse button?" Losing that second mouse button feels like losing a limb. If the ads were really honest, Webb would be standing there with one arm, struggling to open a packet of peanuts while Mitchell effortlessly tore his apart with both hands. But then, if the ads were really honest, Webb would be dressed in unbelievably po-faced avant-garde clothing with a gigantic glowing apple on his back. And instead of conducting a proper conversation, he would be repeatedly congratulating himself for looking so cool, and banging on about how he was going to use his new laptop to write a novel, without ever getting round to doing it, like a mediocre idiot.

Cue 10 years of nasal bleating from Mac-likers who profess to like Macs not because they are fashionable, but because "they are just better". Mac owners often sneer that kind of defence back at you when you mock their silly, posturing contraptions, because in doing so, you have inadvertently put your finger on the dark fear haunting their feeble, quivering soul - that in some sense, they are a superficial semi-person assembled from packaging; an infinitely sad, second-rate replicant who doesn't really know what they are doing here, but feels vaguely significant and creative each time they gaze at their sleek designer machine. And the more deftly constructed and wittily argued their defence, the more terrified and wounded they secretly are.

Aside from crowing about sartorial differences, the adverts also make a big deal about PCs being associated with "work stuff" (Boo! Offices! Boo!), as opposed to Macs, which are apparently better at "fun stuff". How insecure is that? And how inaccurate? Better at "fun stuff", my arse. The only way to have fun with a Mac is to poke its insufferable owner in the eye. For proof, stroll into any decent games shop and cast your eye over the exhaustive range of cutting-edge computer games available exclusively for the PC, then compare that with the sort of rubbish you get on the Mac. Myst, the most pompous and boring videogame of all time, a plodding, dismal "adventure" in which you wandered around solving tedious puzzles in a rubbish magic kingdom apparently modelled on pretentious album covers, originated on the Mac in 1993. That same year, the first shoot-'em-up game, Doom, was released on the PC. This tells you all you will ever need to know about the Mac's relationship with "fun".

Ultimately the campaign's biggest flaw is that it perpetuates the notion that consumers somehow "define themselves" with the technology they choose. If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. :star: [the crowning argument] Of course, that hasn't stopped me slagging off Mac owners, with a series of sweeping generalisations, for the past 900 words, but that is what the ads do to PCs. Besides, that's what we PC owners are like - unreliable, idiosyncratic and gleefully unfair. And if you'll excuse me now, I feel an unexpected crash coming.

This week: Charlie watched some episodes of Larry Sanders (on his PC). He played the customised Fawlty Towers map for Counterstrike (on his PC). He listened to the Windows startup jingle every 10 minutes as his PC repeatedly rebooted itself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2006031,00.html
 

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mikhail

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Ultimately the campaign's biggest flaw is that it perpetuates the notion that consumers somehow "define themselves" with the technology they choose. If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality.
Couldn't agree more. :)

Having only briefly used an elderly mac once, I can't compare them with PCs, but my experiences with mac users suggests that the image of them as pretentious wankers has some truth in it. :) Of course, it's a bit unfair to generalise too much - many of them are normal, just like many Linux users are pleasant to noobs, and many Windows users aren't computer illiterate Myspace users and so on.
 

JCK

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Nice argument

I almost fell off m chair reading this

I even hate people who don't use Macs but sometimes wish they did.
And as soon as I was able to control myself I saw this

The only way to have fun with a Mac is to poke its insufferable owner in the eye.
 

V

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Martin said:
Losing that second mouse button feels like losing a limb.
Just yesterday I saw a Mac, and used it for about 2 minutes, for the first time in my life. It really is akward, didn't like it at all.

Great article though.
 
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Martin

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    As for Apple, if it annoys people it's successful marketing.
    You know this is what obscures technical debates as well. It's not like Mac is technologically rubbish, it's pretty decent (after all it's Unix :p), but it's hard to even debate technical merits, because there's this whole layer of marketing crust you have to peel off first, and get people to talk on equal terms rather than through Steve Jobs's words.

    One thing I find ironic is that although Apple is trying to gain market share through these very low budget ads from "the great evil empire", they also frame the context as if it were just a world of "PC" (which doesn't mean anything anymore) and Mac (which is just a PC with Apple's operating system). Like there's nothing else, no Linux, no Unix, no other OSes. So they want to stay on the map, they want you to always remember Mac being a choice, but never know that they are other choices too. Which is pretty much like how Microsoft doesn't want you to know there is any choice at all.
     

    Slagathor

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    You know this is what obscures technical debates as well. It's not like Mac is technologically rubbish, it's pretty decent (after all it's Unix :p), but it's hard to even debate technical merits, because there's this whole layer of marketing crust you have to peel off first, and get people to talk on equal terms rather than through Steve Jobs's words.
    It's the pretty blond <> mechanic syndrom translated from cars to computers. Beauty versus functionality. It's by definition impossible for the two to have a discussion about cars on the same wavelength.

    One thing I find ironic is that although Apple is trying to gain market share through these very low budget ads from "the great evil empire", they also frame the context as if it were just a world of "PC" (which doesn't mean anything anymore) and Mac (which is just a PC with Apple's operating system). Like there's nothing else, no Linux, no Unix, no other OSes. So they want to stay on the map, they want you to always remember Mac being a choice, but never know that they are other choices too. Which is pretty much like how Microsoft doesn't want you to know there is any choice at all.
    Different companies, same tactics. I've noticed that. The only difference is the underdog role that applies to Mac, which is a superficial difference of course.
     
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    It's the pretty blond <> mechanic syndrom translated from cars to computers. Beauty versus functionality. It's by definition impossible for the two to have a discussion about cars on the same wavelength.
    I saw an interview with Jobs on some youtube video the other day and about Microsoft what he had to say was this "I have no problem with them blahblah but it astounds me that they have such poor taste, they really make mediocre products". Now he didn't say "poor sense of technical quality", he said "taste". And this is what the new Mac era is all about, in the 90s they told everyone "Macs are better", then they nearly went bankrupt trying to win on technical merits and they switched to "Macs are beautiful". I mean what does that tell you really?

    It's people buying a car because it's red.
     

    Daddi

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    I like both, but I own a PC. My desktop PC is a gamer-pc. Fast and fun for games and everything else. If I were to buy a laptop though, it would be a Macbook.
     
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    Disillusioning isn't it
    What's ironic is that Apple now sells PCs. So all those arguments about Macs being better and faster (and hardware is what most people think when they talk about computers) fly out the window.

    They put their logo on it and insist that it's a Mac but you can go next door and buy a PC with the exact same specifications. The marketing terminology has not evolved one bit since 1995.
     
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    "...that in some sense, they are a superficial semi-person assembled from packaging; an infinitely sad, second-rate replicant who doesn't really know what they are doing here, but feels vaguely significant and creative each time they gaze at their sleek designer machine."

    :shifty:

    My primary computer is a Mac, but I DO USE a PC for ALL MY WORK STUFF, so take that Mr. I-Hate-Macs-and-have-bad-teeth.
     

    swag

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    Couldn't agree more. :)

    Having only briefly used an elderly mac once, I can't compare them with PCs, but my experiences with mac users suggests that the image of them as pretentious wankers has some truth in it. :) Of course, it's a bit unfair to generalise too much - many of them are normal, just like many Linux users are pleasant to noobs, and many Windows users aren't computer illiterate Myspace users and so on.
    As much as it annoys me to equate my choice of computer with my personal lifestyle, people like Apple do this for the simple reason that it works. You can't buy a cup of coffee anymore without it being some public statement about your lifestyle -- at least according to the brand marketers.

    "We are what we buy." That is the message. It's completely lame, and it takes a self-conscious consumer to catch himself before falling into that trap. Most of us just fall, though.

    So the most annoying side effect of this happens... someone disses on Macs, Starbucks coffee, or whatnot, and people's personal identities are so wrapped up in the brands of crap they consume that then they take that as a personal insult. It's no longer just that such-and-such product sucks and is inferior, now you suck and are inferior.

    And boy do the marketers love it when we play into their hands like this...

    As I get older, I thought I got past all my anti-commercial angst when I was in college. But these days I'm finding it coming back a lot again. Fruitcakes like the Reverend Billy and his Church of Stop Shopping used to not be worth my time... and now I find myself reading that stuff more and thinking I should be doing the same... :faq2:
     
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    As I get older, I thought I got past all my anti-commercial angst when I was in college. But these days I'm finding it coming back a lot again. Fruitcakes like the Reverend Billy and his Church of Stop Shopping used to not be worth my time... and now I find myself reading that stuff more and thinking I should be doing the same... :faq2:
    You are such an expert on these wacky movements, what's your secret?
     

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