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Dan

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Mar 9, 2004
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im saying that these people all had brazilian influence in the first place. Silky samba style soccer came out of south america, thats obvious. The people who are best at that are the South americans in the first place.
 

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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Dan ] ++
im saying that these people all had brazilian influence in the first place. Silky samba style soccer came out of south america, thats obvious. The people who are best at that are the South americans in the first place.
no doubt about that,but Germans defenitly werent influenced by the brazilian flair,were they?
 

Dan

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Mar 9, 2004
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The world is influenced by it now. When you see C. Ronaldo or whoever doing tricks and flair that came from south america of course. So back during the German Glory days, the flair belonged to brazil because it is only in recent soccer that players have started to mimic the brazilians and use trickery to beat their oppenents (to a certain degree)
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
++ [ originally posted by Dan ] ++
The world is influenced by it now. When you see C. Ronaldo or whoever doing tricks and flair that came from south america of course. So back during the German Glory days, the flair belonged to brazil because it is only in recent soccer that players have started to mimic the brazilians and use trickery to beat their oppenents (to a certain degree)
i completely agree with you,but C.Ronaldo doesnt
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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RONALDO BLASTS SHOWBOATING RIVALS

Darren Lewis


CRISTIANO RONALDO has told the Premiership's step-over
wannabes: 'Stop copying my skills'.

Manchester United's Portuguese wing-wizard is fed up with fleet-
footed tricksters whom he believes are imitating his party pieces.

Arsenal's Thierry Henry has been leaving opponents for dead with the
technique described as 'lollipops' by ex-ITV commentator Ron
Atkinson.

Chelsea's Joe Cole was impressive with an assortment of step-overs
in England's World Cup qualifier against Northern Ireland at Old
Trafford.

Birmingham's David Dunn actually came a cropper attempting
the 'round-the-corner backheel' that saw him fall flat on his face
on TV.

And Barcelona's brilliant Brazilian Ronaldinho has become a serial
thriller with his tricks.

Yet angry Ronaldo is having none of it, and believes his rivals
should make up their own moves.

He said: "There is one thing that annoys me. I don't like people
copying my tricks.

"I would never, for example, copy Ronaldinho if I saw him doing
something on the pitch. I see football as an art and all the players
are artists. If you are a top artist the last thing you would do is
paint a picture that someone has already painted.

"I would never dream of looking at Ronaldinho and trying to emulate
him. I would be offended if he tried to copy one of my tricks.

"Different tricks come naturally to gifted players and we must
concentrate on developing our own natural talents rather than try
and be someone else." Ronaldo was speaking in the April edition of
Champions League magazine about an issue which is sure to anger some
fans who will insist the Euro 2004 star was not the first to invent
step-overs. The midfielder also revealed how he developed his
trickery - playing street football in the alleys of his homeland.

He added: "It's all down to street football. We'd eat, drink and
breathe football. I always felt comfortable on the ball and have
always had the belief that if you put one man or five men in front
of me I could go past them all.

"In Madeira we had plenty of pitches and I used to play football in
every spare second with lots of children my age.

"I used to invent new tricks that I could try in my next game and I
still do the same thing today."

The Old Trafford star also shrugged off United's Champions League
exit and insists he still intends to lift the biggest prizes in club
and inter-national football. And he has not given up on pipping
Chelsea to the title.

He said: "We are a team of winners at United and will never give up
until it is mathematically impossible to win. Let us hope that day
never comes."

Ronaldo's United team-mate Alan Smith claims he will not walk away
from Old Trafford despite starting just one match for Sir Alex
Ferguson's side since January 4.

He has had to make do with cameo appearances from the bench as he
plays second fiddle to Wayne Rooney and Ruud van Nistelrooy.

Newcastle boss Graeme Souness has noted Smith's lack of first-team
opportunities and wants to buy him in the summer to replace Alan
Shearer.

However Smith's agent Alex Black insists the 24-year-old is
determined to stay at United and win back his place.

"I don't think Alan's position has changed at all," said
Black. "Everything is fine with Alan and he is happy to stay at
United.

"There are no problems. There has been speculation about Newcastle,
but nobody has spoken to us about that."

Black also pointed out that Smith was out for nearly seven weeks
with an ankle injury. He said: "He's got to get some level of
fitness back before he can be judged."
 

jaecole

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2005
3,017
++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
RONALDO BLASTS SHOWBOATING RIVALS

Darren Lewis


CRISTIANO RONALDO has told the Premiership's step-over
wannabes: 'Stop copying my skills'.

Manchester United's Portuguese wing-wizard is fed up with fleet-
footed tricksters whom he believes are imitating his party pieces.

Arsenal's Thierry Henry has been leaving opponents for dead with the
technique described as 'lollipops' by ex-ITV commentator Ron
Atkinson.

Chelsea's Joe Cole was impressive with an assortment of step-overs
in England's World Cup qualifier against Northern Ireland at Old
Trafford.

Birmingham's David Dunn actually came a cropper attempting
the 'round-the-corner backheel' that saw him fall flat on his face
on TV.

And Barcelona's brilliant Brazilian Ronaldinho has become a serial
thriller with his tricks.

Yet angry Ronaldo is having none of it, and believes his rivals
should make up their own moves.

He said: "There is one thing that annoys me. I don't like people
copying my tricks.

"I would never, for example, copy Ronaldinho if I saw him doing
something on the pitch. I see football as an art and all the players
are artists. If you are a top artist the last thing you would do is
paint a picture that someone has already painted.

"I would never dream of looking at Ronaldinho and trying to emulate
him. I would be offended if he tried to copy one of my tricks.

"Different tricks come naturally to gifted players and we must
concentrate on developing our own natural talents rather than try
and be someone else." Ronaldo was speaking in the April edition of
Champions League magazine about an issue which is sure to anger some
fans who will insist the Euro 2004 star was not the first to invent
step-overs. The midfielder also revealed how he developed his
trickery - playing street football in the alleys of his homeland.

He added: "It's all down to street football. We'd eat, drink and
breathe football. I always felt comfortable on the ball and have
always had the belief that if you put one man or five men in front
of me I could go past them all.

"In Madeira we had plenty of pitches and I used to play football in
every spare second with lots of children my age.

"I used to invent new tricks that I could try in my next game and I
still do the same thing today."

The Old Trafford star also shrugged off United's Champions League
exit and insists he still intends to lift the biggest prizes in club
and inter-national football. And he has not given up on pipping
Chelsea to the title.

He said: "We are a team of winners at United and will never give up
until it is mathematically impossible to win. Let us hope that day
never comes."

Ronaldo's United team-mate Alan Smith claims he will not walk away
from Old Trafford despite starting just one match for Sir Alex
Ferguson's side since January 4.

He has had to make do with cameo appearances from the bench as he
plays second fiddle to Wayne Rooney and Ruud van Nistelrooy.

Newcastle boss Graeme Souness has noted Smith's lack of first-team
opportunities and wants to buy him in the summer to replace Alan
Shearer.

However Smith's agent Alex Black insists the 24-year-old is
determined to stay at United and win back his place.

"I don't think Alan's position has changed at all," said
Black. "Everything is fine with Alan and he is happy to stay at
United.

"There are no problems. There has been speculation about Newcastle,
but nobody has spoken to us about that."

Black also pointed out that Smith was out for nearly seven weeks
with an ankle injury. He said: "He's got to get some level of
fitness back before he can be judged."
What a bigheaded jerk.

He created a standard stepover? I havent exactly seen him do anything 'new'?
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
the arrogant prick didnt invent any of his tricks,the stepovers were invented before he was born,all his other moves were too.
 
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Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
    How can you not like the English national team? They are your country. There isnt a choice when it comes to national teams. I laugh at people who are English and support Italian NT or something. Stupidist thing in the world.
    :rofl: Was that to me Jae? Well, if it was firstly I am not English, born in Rome in case you wanted to know AND I havent ever lived in England...
     
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    Nicole

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    Sep 16, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
    I've yet to see C. Ronaldo do anything that hasn't been witnessed before.
    wtf, you expect a 19-year-old kid do something the world has never seen? I havent seen Zidane do anything no-one hasnt ever seen before, the different is, he does it before then anyone else, same as what Ronaldo will do 1 day...
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    ++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
    wtf, you expect a 19-year-old kid do something the world has never seen? I havent seen Zidane do anything no-one hasnt ever seen before, the different is, he does it before then anyone else, same as what Ronaldo will do 1 day...
    You're totally missing the point; of course I don't expect him to pull off a completely new move, but he came out blasting other players that they were copying his moves, as if they were his trademark.
     
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    Nicole

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    Sep 16, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++


    You're totally missing the point; of course I don't expect him to pull off a completely new move, but he came out blasting other players that they were copying his moves, as if they were his trademark.
    Actually I suppose since there is a void of extremely "technically" gifted players, at least in the tricks department, then he is right because no-one performed "step-overs" or things like that in England before Ronaldo, thus they are coping him.
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    ++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
    Actually I suppose since there is a void of extremely "technically" gifted players, at least in the tricks department, then he is right because no-one performed "step-overs" or things like that in England before Ronaldo, thus they are coping him.
    That's a valid argument, but I didn't really see him mention anything specifically about the EPL.
     
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    Nicole

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    Sep 16, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

    That's a valid argument, but I didn't really see him mention anything specifically about the EPL.
    I think it is far more likely to be that, I doubt very much Ronaldo meant the whole world, but I can say there has been a huge increase in the amount of players performing "tricks" in the Premiership now.
     

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