Has Juventus said anything on the status of Ciro? Are they happy and keeping him? Or still deciding on Guus (or another coach?)
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i think that hiddink is coming. it sounds a little crazy but...
before some days i read a post of another member and i agreed completely. the main difference between our shitty performance against milan and our very good performance against roma at the beginning of the season, was the mood of the players. at the begging of the season the players were hoping for a lot of things and gave their 100%. against milan all of them had nothing to believe in and that had as a result the shit that all of us watched.
today i saw 11 hungry players in a fantastic mood running and fighting. what the hell has changed in such a short period that had so much impact to the team's mood???? one of the logic explanations is that maybe guus is coming. and the players know it. so that gives them hope and makes them playing so well.
i want to hope that something like this is happening...
before some days i read a post of another member and i agreed completely. the main difference between our shitty performance against milan and our very good performance against roma at the beginning of the season, was the mood of the players. at the begging of the season the players were hoping for a lot of things and gave their 100%. against milan all of them had nothing to believe in and that had as a result the shit that all of us watched.
today i saw 11 hungry players in a fantastic mood running and fighting. what the hell has changed in such a short period that had so much impact to the team's mood???? one of the logic explanations is that maybe guus is coming. and the players know it. so that gives them hope and makes them playing so well.
i want to hope that something like this is happening...
Your right, but sacking him, may not also alleviate the problems. Infact it may make it worse, a new coach, new adjusments, everone getting used to things. I know hiddink did it well at chelsea, but I believe he did it because his players were equally motivated for the project that he brought. At the moment im not sure where the players stand, injuries havent help but that isnt an excuse of course. We saw some motivation today but again I agree the consistency without a doubt is questionable. Whatever the case fine if ciro getting sacked and the 'possibility' of hiddink coming in bring us success (both short and long term).. then I for one would happily embrace it.
As long as Juventus can win games, I don't care if Ciro stays. I never hated him personally, but lately we just looked so weak, so pathetic. If he can make our team play like this every game kudos to him. Stay. Though, I'm not jumping ships again too quickly. If Ciro beats Chievo, Roma, and a few more, I'll be proud to have him as a coach again.
Agree, this nonsense should be stopped immediately. We should either sack him or give him full support and backing. There shouldn't be ultimatums, actually there should be one, but he got it and failed. No matter how bad tactician Ciro is, our managment is way worse, they don't have a clue what they are doing. They are "backing/ not firing" him but still constantly have meeting over his future and future of the club. What kind of managment is that?
I want so bad to believe you're right.
But the other logical explanation for are early good performances could be that they didn't know the counter-solution to our new formation as soon as the first team found the way out then every team was winning against us, the same applies to our other good periods and the most important thing is ciro instead of having the solution ready like a real coach started experimenting which is too slow and lame of a process and he never really succeeded.
I think those two other guys at our BOD don't know jack shit from football but bettega should've figured it out already.
But the other logical explanation for are early good performances could be that they didn't know the counter-solution to our new formation as soon as the first team found the way out then every team was winning against us, the same applies to our other good periods and the most important thing is ciro instead of having the solution ready like a real coach started experimenting which is too slow and lame of a process and he never really succeeded.
I think those two other guys at our BOD don't know jack shit from football but bettega should've figured it out already.
Whats there to doubt? A new manager, a manger who has won things, a manager who has experience and has his ideas how to make a team work. The way Australia, friggin AUSTRALIA played was already awesome. And its a lot to do with Hiddink. With Hiddink, some of our players might actually start improving their performances as well.
You said that he succeeded at Chelsea cause of players, well have you forgotten his PSV side, who almost made it to the CL final, and Russia was playing one of the best football in euro08 behind Spain.
Hiddink isnt my fav coach either, but i want experienced manager who has seen things and has his fair share of success.
You said that he succeeded at Chelsea cause of players, well have you forgotten his PSV side, who almost made it to the CL final, and Russia was playing one of the best football in euro08 behind Spain.
Hiddink isnt my fav coach either, but i want experienced manager who has seen things and has his fair share of success.
There are doubts, as explained there have been places where he has flourished remarkbly and at the same time his had places where he just couldnt succeed. Partly due to him and partly down to his peers. He can leave quicker than normal so I can only hope that if he did come he came with a long term project. Australia and South korea was amazing yes they were determined. pre determined nations looking to do better. Again chelsea was the same, it wasnt that they were demoraled, they had players like terry, lampard and of course drogba to kick the others up the ass and motivate those around them. On our side its not the same.. its a complete different scenario, different structure, its a risk.. he didnt succeed in spain, he partly succeeded in england. On a national scale his brilliant and I cant deny that. PSV he was certainly something. So im not saying a big no to him but like I said it could end up turning sour as well, with him resigning after 6 months in charge or understanding this isnt the sort of project for him because those around him dont have the slightest of clues.
I want an experienced manager too, i have my doubts about hiddink but I wont say a total no-no if he did come, I just hope he comes with the right dedication to stick and his bosses give him that extra air to move around and do his job.
I want an experienced manager too, i have my doubts about hiddink but I wont say a total no-no if he did come, I just hope he comes with the right dedication to stick and his bosses give him that extra air to move around and do his job.
So you are saying we dont have spiritual players? 
Just to add we have our spirited players, but there not made of steel or experience. Camo for example has that spirit but it usually leads to getting wound up or healed up by physio. Sissoko has that but again his been on injury list. Melo well I cant explain, his spirited, has potential to give a kick, proberly not as influential because simply that is the key, you need these influential players to stand by the coach and really have a dig and raise the others up. I feel melo gets demotived quite easily which is proberly to how his being played, consistency or simply form dont know.
Or when they realize that they are being coached by someone who has no clue and cant express his views clearly. Besides keeping players motivated and helping them improve day by day, and help their spirits to lift.
We lost the spirit when we started loosing. Remember when we where winning and playing well, i saw Melo dancing around, players laughing. These days most of the players look like they are ready to pass out any minute.
We lost the spirit when we started loosing. Remember when we where winning and playing well, i saw Melo dancing around, players laughing. These days most of the players look like they are ready to pass out any minute.
Its not the spirit I envisage, the spirit is that of staying focused. To be fair its nice to see the players laughing and enjoying their football but its not like some of the clubs out there who almost felt like there going onto the field for war. You can see the difference a lot of times when we meet EPL clubs especially. In some of the early games of the season there was always the chance that this laughing and dancing around thing was going to get us in the end and of course it kicked off with bourdeaux. Theres a lot of things wrong with how the season was approached, we didnt achieve a balance, the media made us look like weve already won a treble and no doubt im sure some of the players proberly felt that way too. Coach I agree tactically made numerous mistakes, he was thrown in at the deep end or accepted to be, he didnt know how to man manage and then of course the board, injuries etc. A lot of things can be said.
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