Giuseppe 'The Savior' Rossi - ST - Villareal (43 Viewers)

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Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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Look at his entire record with us. His motto was young talent for bargain prices with low wages. I'm not overly keen on the idea of buying Aguero for 38M + 7.5M wages either but there is a lot more to Beppe's story besides the few examples you mention. He has over paid clubs and players and has been stitched trying to move players out. Moreover, those players he failed most at selling for a reasonable price should never have been sold in the first place - Melo and Giovinco. Out goes our talent, in comes mediocrity (with high wages!). Worst of all he has failed to keep his promise and follow his initial business model. How wasteful does he have to get until you're prepared to criticise him for his obvious mistakes?
I have never suggested he is a perfect sporting director, never suggested he is beyond all criticism....He has made some decent moves, some poor moves. Many people on here blame him for things that are not his fault. Its beyond ridiculous for any 'fan' to criticize him for failing to sell ANY of the players that Secco signed on hugely overinflated wages...If nobody wants amauri, or tiago, or grosso, or any of the other players Secco signed up, then blaming Beppe Marotta is the work of a fool.

Motta was a risk, many people through he had potential, and out budget wasn't huge last summer. I can't fault beppe massively on that one, as many people I know, and read, thought motta had potential. Krasic, Quag, Matri, Aquilani, Sorenson, Storari, were for me, ALL brilliant moves. Quag and Sorenson were lucky strikes, but still, they turned out to be brilliant moves. The aquilani deal, I thought was very well orchestrated. Motta??? already mentioned him. Traore?? clearly we lacked the funds for an established LB, much hope was put onto De Ceglie, so Traore was a cheap risk. his only massive failure was Martinez. That was a much more costly, but equally failed effort to the lanzafame move...the strange thing about those moves, is that both players seem more naturally suited to a 4-3-3. if that was to be our formation, both would have made sense.

I think it was delneri who didnt want giovinco, and rather than sell him, we sent him to a team where he would get lots of games, with far less pressure, with at worst the option for them to sign half of his rights i.e. leaving the door WIDE OPEN for a future return. any player with ambitions of reaching the top is not going to stay with parma forever.

The trez move??? nobody knows exactly what happened. Did trez request to be nearer the family of his wife? Did delneri decide he was past it? nobody KNOWS for sure, other than trez, delneri and marrotta. speculate as you please.

Camo was a liability of decreasing $ value....Tiago is a strange one, as I would have liked to have seen him given a chance this season, with a new manager, and better players around him. to lose him for nothing is annoying, but, how much is the TRUE financial loss on our accounts?

diego was sold, then had a truly awful season in germany.

pirlo is a good signing, pazienza, as a sub is a good signing, ziegler is an OK signing, Lichsteiner is a great signing.Vidal is a phenomenal signing. The Melo move??? Understandable, although I suspect that Melo was not treated very well by the club in the lead up to his transfer.

so, yes i can criticize him, but also give credit where its due. It was always going to take more than a year to start to truly sort out the horrible mess Secco created. to my mind, as a juve supporter of 17 years, Beppe is doing OK. It was easier for Moggi...he struck lucky more quickly, and success on the field led to the club becoming one of the most attractive clubs to brilliant players in europe. this is NOT the situation Beppe came into. a falling, failing giant, with far too many mediocre players on vastly inflated wages...
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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Pathetic!
Vucinic instead of Rossi?
this is a fucking joke...

I'm curious what will Marotta answer when the media & the fans will ask about the TOP player you promised...?!
 

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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Well yeah, this is a club who have also bid €40m for Wesley Sneijder. It's not just CL, an infinite pot of money would also be nice.
I was assuming we got a shit loads of money from Exxor too. Not saying we should sign the whole world, but we should get a few good targets and try getting them. Not end up with Vucinic.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I was assuming we got a shit loads of money from Exxor too. Not saying we should sign the whole world, but we should get a few good targets and try getting them. Not end up with Vucinic.
We know we have some money for the team, to make a 'big signing' if possible, but we don't know amounts, and that has to go on both fees and wages. You always see people make teams with €XXm and use the full amount, as if players, especially top players, play for free or small amounts. If we are comparing to Malaga Qatar then it's no comparison, even a piss poor little club like that instantly becomes wealthier than us overnight with oil money, they could outlay €150m this summer and think nothing of it.
 

Fint

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Aug 13, 2010
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Pathetic!
Vucinic instead of Rossi?
this is a fucking joke...

I'm curious what will Marotta answer when the media & the fans will ask about the TOP player you promised...?!
He will proclaim Vucinic as a 'champion', and that will be that unfortunately because there is nobody at the club in a higher position with any footballing knowledge to question his signings.
 

delpiero4life

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Mar 23, 2010
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I do not see the evidence to support this apparently widespread opinion that marotta is an awful negogiator...He had to choose between dzeko and krasic, as they also had to choose. we seemed to need a RW to replace camo more than we needed a dzeko, when we had iaquinta and amauri. Also krasic wanted us more than dzeko wanted us...that doesn't seem like marotta fucking up a decent transfer. As for aguero??? we have zero chance of paying even 60-70% of what City can offer him, as well as a stronger team to play in, with the champions league also on offer. Again, its hard to see how anyone can blame Marotta for City having infinite wealth, a stronger team and the champions league to play in...

ok the thing with marotta is this:

firstly, we pay like 30 mil for diego and then marotta sells him for like 15mil the next year.
secondly, he gets rid of giovinco for like 3 mil (half anyway)
thirdly, he pays 12 mil for that scum from catania (i cant even think of his name right now someone help me??)
fourthly,he pays 10 for pepe

so lets pause there, he sells deigo for 15 and pays 12 for that catania scum (shit wats his name??!!)

he over payed for quad and matri - even though i rate them, they are not worth what we payed for and lets not be in denial.

If Marotta has cooled our interest in Rossi, either Rossi or Villareal are playing the Cunt card, OR...he has someone else more special lined up as our star signing.
conte comes in with a 442 that requires 2 hardworking defensive midfielders and what does he do? he brings inpirlo the lazy DM in serie A and gets rid of melo.

he buys motta (lets stop now because im feeling sick but there is a ton of other reasons).

vidal and liechenstiener were good buys but there is plenty of reasons to be upset with marotta..
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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people with brain understand marotta did more good then bad, and look at the circumstances.

people without brain, or blinded by the past, will disagree.


99% of those who think he is so bad, would have gotten us bankrupt by now.
 
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