Giuseppe 'The Savior' Rossi - ST - Villareal (47 Viewers)

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Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Alen I wasn't talking about you, I know you're fair when it comes to Italians.

Unfortunately some are not.
No, I think you're wrong. Or at least the undervaluation isn't on some big scale.

I'm here for a while now and I know very well that those who are accused the most about hating the Italians were celebrating when Juve signed some Italian players. That alone shows that all people want is quality, they don't care about nationality. The animosity towards some Italians has everything to do with our transfer strategy. If Marotta keeps going after Swiss players and buys us 7-8 when at most 1 or 2 deserve to play for Juve, you will see the same comments about Swiss players.

There is more pro-Italy bias here (traditionally) than anti-Italy. Much more.
If Juve decide to go after Vucinic and don't buy Kun, nor Rossi, you will see how disliked Vucinic will become. If Vucinic happened to be Italian, people would have blamed the attacks on the anti-Italian bias.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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:crazy:

Melo is worth at least 15 mln E , but i'm sure if someone else would run our mercato would be able to sell him 18 mln E + .
And u saied you would pay 25 mln E + Melo for Rossi :lol: .
dude did you just read the conversation between me and allen? part of it was that players value is variable not fixed like some of you on here think
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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You know what's funny, all of you guys said the same thing about Quagliarella and Matri. Both players were vital to us this season.

I can't wait until Rossi joins, and proves all of you wrong. :disagree:

If Rossi was Spanish, Argentinian or Brazilian you guys would be going ape shit. But some of you have some deep Azzurri & Italian hate and can't admit Italian quality when you see it.
I didn't say any of this about Quagliarella and Matri. I have nothing against Italian players at all, I don't like their NT but only because of the glory hunting fanboys that support them. And lately I stopped even caring about them.
 

Albo

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Apr 13, 2009
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dude did you just read the conversation between me and allen? part of it was that players value is variable not fixed like some of you on here think
Dude u talked a lot , and i'm to lazy to read all pages , and my english suck so i won't get it all .

But i'm sure Rossi would cost us more than 30 mln E (100%) , and Aguero would cost us max : 37 mln E .

Rossi's salary would be something like 5 mln e , while Aguero would be 7,5 mln E .

So diference for 5 years would be : 12,5 mln E (Salary) + 7 mln E (Transfer Fee) = 20 mln E for 5 years it's nothing when u are talking about world class player like Aguero .
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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I didn't say any of this about Quagliarella and Matri. I have nothing against Italian players at all, I don't like their NT but only because of the glory hunting fanboys that support them. And lately I stopped even caring about them.
well dont you expect most national team fanboys to be that way? national pride is a strong thing for most, even if some take it to extremes
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Dude u talked a lot , and i'm to lazy to read all pages , and my english suck so i won't get it all .

But i'm sure Rossi would cost us more than 30 mln E (100%) , and Aguero would cost us max : 37 mln E .

Rossi's salary would be something like 5 mln e , while Aguero would be 7,5 mln E .

So diference for 5 years would be : 12,5 mln E (Salary) + 7 mln E (Transfer Fee) = 20 mln E for 5 years it's nothing when u are talking about world class player like Aguero .
Dude your numbers are so off its sad, there not even close to anything reported, anywhere
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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We can always sign Rossi next summer. He should stay and play CL with Villarreal this year. This summer is a summer which will probably decide our near future (4-5 years). No mistakes are allowed and making Rossi the top signing IS a mistake.
We can bring him next year when DP retires.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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We can always sign Rossi next summer. He should stay and play CL with Villarreal this year. This summer is a summer which will probably decide our near future (4-5 years). No mistakes are allowed and making Rossi the top signing IS a mistake.
We can bring him next year when DP retires.
what happens if he stays and goes CL performs great and next year they want 45 million for him?
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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We can always sign Rossi next summer. He should stay and play CL with Villarreal this year. This summer is a summer which will probably decide our near future (4-5 years). No mistakes are allowed and making Rossi the top signing IS a mistake.
We can bring him next year when DP retires.
:disagree:

Next summer will be the time to get Alexis Sanchez on loan with the option to buy.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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what happens if he stays and goes CL performs great and next year they want 45 million for him?
Bah, who cares. Many players in the world might have their prices raised in the end of next year, should we buy them all in order to avoid regretting by the end of next season? I really like Rossi and I rate him but we don't need him here this year especially for the money Villareal ask. Man I wish we were to strengthen our midfield and defense this year :sigh:
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Bah, who cares. Many players in the world might have their prices raised in the end of next year, should we buy them all in order to avoid regretting by the end of next season? I really like Rossi and I rate him but we don't need him here this year especially for the money Villareal ask. Man I wish we were to strengthen our midfield and defense this year :sigh:
well i believe bastos is coming and vidal I also here another big defender is being looked at so if you add this plus lichstiener and zieglar plus rossi and a few others we have signed not a bad mercato in my view
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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Dude u talked a lot , and i'm to lazy to read all pages , and my english suck so i won't get it all .

But i'm sure Rossi would cost us more than 30 mln E (100%) , and Aguero would cost us max : 37 mln E .

Rossi's salary would be something like 5 mln e , while Aguero would be 7,5 mln E .

So diference for 5 years would be : 12,5 mln E (Salary) + 7 mln E (Transfer Fee) = 20 mln E for 5 years it's nothing when u are talking about world class player like Aguero .
Wow, were do you get these numbers?

The only place I've seen the 5m wage thing being mentioned is Goal.com, who are pulling it out of their ass since they didn't even bother to make up a fake source for it.

edit: if we could get Rossi+Capdevilla for melo+15m cash I would take it without thinking twice. Notice how I'm using words as "if" and "maybe" in my posts regarding transfer speculations .
ATM representatives have been stressing the point that they have no intention of selling Aguero - if the clause of 45m is met they are forced to enter negotiations. The only place Ive heard the 37m offer would be accepted by ATM is guru speculation, we have concrete statements which contradict this.

A player of Agueros quality won't be signed for 37 when he has a clause that sais 45, especially not with all the rich clubs looking to bolster their attack this summer.

You are conveniently chosing from a platter of speculations regarding these numbers to pass the signing of Rossi off as an atrocity while attempting to almost make the transfer of Kun sound cheap.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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well i believe bastos is coming and vidal I also here another big defender is being looked at so if you add this plus lichstiener and zieglar plus rossi and a few others we have signed not a bad mercato in my view
We are also linked to one Serbian defender who plays in EPL, I forgot his name, so with that guy we might complete the defense.
 
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