Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
I was complaining about Marotta before,
But I really have no idea why people complain now.
I personally didn't approve Peluso but there's no way I think this direction is by any means wrong.
Hmm, let me give you some:
-His inability to find a Juve material finisher
-His inability to find a Juve material LM
-His inability to find a Juve material LB
-His inability to sell players for decent ammounts.
-Lack of prestige/experience outside of Italy
-Lack of respect inside/outside Italy, with opposition presidents and transfer managers ridiculating him and us with him. (Melo situation, Giovinco fiasko)
-Lack of focus on certain targets, getting carried by opportunity targets.
-Horrible gambler, buys high sells low.
-Peluso, etc etc

Our inability to attract WC players is a juge disadvantage, there are more reasons than Marotta for that, but he is the main one.
And for this reason, we cannot make the quality jump we were hoping (in material, not in Conte's field of operation)
Lucky us the competition in Italy also sucks atm and the financial crisis favor us.

At any case, may the force be with Marotta this year and guide his path to new Vidals, Lichts and Pogbas!
 

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Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Hmm, let me give you some:
-His inability to find a Juve material finisher
-His inability to find a Juve material to find a Juve material LM
-His inability to find a Juve material LB
-His inability to sell players for decent ammounts.
-Lack of prestige/experience outside of Italy
-Lack of respect inside.outside Italy, with opposition presidents and transfer managers ridiculating him and us with him. (Melo situation, Giovinco fiasko)
-Lack of focus on certain targets, getting carried by opportunity targets.
-Horrible gambler, buys high sells low.
-Peluso, etc etc

Our inability to attract WC players is a juge disadvantage, there are more reasons than Marotta for that, but he is the main one.
And for this reason, we cannot make the quality jump we were hoping (in material, not in Conte's field of operation)
Lucky us the competition in Italy also sucks atm and the financial crisis favor us.

At any case, may the force be with Marotta this year and guide his path to new Vidals, Lichts and Pogbas!
Fuck you! You deserve it.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
2011-2: Undefeated Serie A champions .
2012-3: Ahead by 8 points at winter break, topped one of the hardest CL groups.

Results speak for themselves.
This has all Conte written on him and having as a manager MArotta, earns him an extra credit, because Marotta is a hnadicap for all the above mentioned reasons and far more.
And this is proven by the fact that since Marrota arrived we were ranking 7th up until Conte came in for the rescue, so this has obviously have to do with Conte and not Marotta.
Each one has to be judged by his field of operations, Marotta has failed his primary target in each and every year...
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
This has all Conte written on him and having as a manager MArotta, earns him an extra credit, because Marotta is a hnadicap for all the above mentioned reasons and far more.
And this is proven by the fact that since Marrota arrived we were ranking 7th up until Conte came in for the rescue, so this has obviously have to do with Conte and not Marotta.
Each one has to be judged by his field of operations, Marotta has failed his primary target in each and every year...
Oh here we go again.


Hey, uhmmm, when Juve were 2 points ahead of last year's pace in early december, and having topped one of the hardest groups in CL, who was the head coach during that time?


Oh, and one more thing here.

I hear and read a lot of talk about how Conte has "blocked" certain players from coming to Juventus, because he didn't feel as if they were the right fit.


So tell me then. Why didn't COnte block Giaccherini, Padoin, or Peluso?
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
People still want to answer him?

You could summarize any of his anti juve and marotta post into two words, which are directed to anyone who tries to read the filth he is spewing. Not even winning a treble will change anything, he will still be saying in each and every post the same.
 

JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
4,134
This has all Conte written on him and having as a manager MArotta, earns him an extra credit, because Marotta is a hnadicap for all the above mentioned reasons and far more.
And this is proven by the fact that since Marrota arrived we were ranking 7th up until Conte came in for the rescue, so this has obviously have to do with Conte and not Marotta.
Each one has to be judged by his field of operations, Marotta has failed his primary target in each and every year...
nonsense. some of the credit must go for Marotta too...
when Marotta arrived the team was garbage and it could not have been fixed immediately. and it's not that conte arrived and the team was the same.. he had Barzagli, Vidal, Lichtsteiner, Pirlo, Caceres..great players that were brought for cheap by Marotta.
this year you can add Pogba, Asamoah...
 
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This has all Conte written on him and having as a manager MArotta, earns him an extra credit, because Marotta is a hnadicap for all the above mentioned reasons and far more.
And this is proven by the fact that since Marrota arrived we were ranking 7th up until Conte came in for the rescue, so this has obviously have to do with Conte and not Marotta.
Each one has to be judged by his field of operations, Marotta has failed his primary target in each and every year...
:howler:
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
nonsense. some of the credit must go for Marotta too...
when Marotta arrived the team was garbage and it could not have been fixed immediately. and it's not that conte arrived and the team was the same.. he had Barzagli, Vidal, Lichtsteiner, Pirlo, Caceres..great players that were brought for cheap by Marotta.
this year you can add Pogba, Asamoah...
I disagree with some credit must go to Marotta just for the shake of it.
I chooce to judge every one of them for their work and performance.
We expect from Marotta to buy some players, on certain prices, for some certain positions, in some certain criteria and he keeps failing all the time.

No matter what the coach does to compensate that handicap such a managerial failure has brought, is totally beyond Marotta's reach, as Marotta's job ends once the transfer window is closed.
It is a disgrace that all the serie A teams can find a finisher of their posture and we are the only one who cant...
than and many more, but only because of that, i dont underastand the tolerance on his incompetence and whe we should keep paying for his failures and not become as competitive as we could.

Asamoah was not brought at cheap, no other team in serie A would have payed nearly 20mil for his signature, neither give the money we gave for Isla, what we payed now is only a part of the total ammount we have commited.
I ve always rated Asamoah, but imo we should have prefered a dedicated LB of his level instead, that would have saved us of wasting 5more mil on yet another compromise like Peluso.
Shame that the Zeglier and Grosso mistake have taught Marotta nothing!
 

JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
4,134
I agree that so far he had not been able to sign a top level striker and that is my only complaint, although I do rate Matri , Quagliarella, Vucinic and Giovinco as good signings (maybe overpaid for Matri and Vucinic).
but you must look at the whole team. 2 world class midfielders for free, another one for 10 mil which is a joke, another world class sweeper for 300,000, after many years a worthy RB for a reasonable price. so you can't say he keeps failing all the time, this is absurd.
every general manager does mistakes along the way and not every signing turns out to be succesful, but overall he managed to build a strong team with depth as well so he does deserves credit for it.

btw Grosso was Secco's, and Ziegler was brought for free so no damage done. you'r right Asamaoh is not cheap but we bought only half
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
SSs and CMs are found in abundance in Italy, this is why it is so easy to find such opportunity targets and this is why Marotta easily finds them.
But half of our roster already consisted of CMs and SSs, since calciopoli we are spending the biggest part of our transfer budget on the CMs and SSs.

This is imo a weakness and a proof of incompetence. It is not like Marotta puts the money spend for their salary and transfer fee from his pocket, it is not like he generated this ammount from sales and youngster contract deals.
He is allocating the ammounts we were suppossed to commit on other positions, on them, just because he is unable to find players for those positions and it is easy to sign those opportunity targets.

So this is why the credit for such signing holds little substance.
Overpay, or pay/offer what others cant, for an easily obtainable target, is not quite an achievement.
And without a very good coach, to compensate for this unbalance and take the maximum from players being played out of position, chances are that we would have ranked 7th again...
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
SSs and CMs are found in abundance in Italy, this is why it is so easy to findsuch opportunity targets and this is why Marotta easily finds them.
But half of our roster already consisted of CMs and SSs, since calciopoli we are spending the biggest part of our transfer budget on the CMs and SSs.

This is imo a weakness and a proof of incompetence. It is not like Marotta puts the money spend for their salary and transfer fee from his pocket, it is not like he generated this ammount from sales and youngster contract deals.
He is allocating the ammounts we were suppossed to commit on other positions, on them, just because he is unable to find players for those positions and it is easy to sign those opportunity targets.

So this is why the credit for such signing holds little substance.
Overpay, or pay/offer what others cant, for an easily obtainable target, is not quite an achievement.
And without a very good coach, to compensate for this unbalance and take the maximum from players being played out of position, chances are that we would have ranked 7th again...[/QUOTE]


So you are basically saying that the likes of Vucinic, Vidal, Pirlo, Lichtsteiner, Asamoah, Barzagli, etc.....................really aren't any good, then. That is what you are trying to tell us.
 

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